Doug Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, jaro said: btw, that strategic readiness thing.. “ Russian nuclear alert just weakens their operational freedom. Now air, sea and tactical missile operations must be planned and executed in a way that NATO does not misinterpret those as nuclear launch.” or they dont care now? Routine precaution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, glenn239 said: How much are you worried about 3rd party hacking looking to cause trouble? Seems far fetched, (lack of capability of bad actors) but the possibility is in the back of the mind. If you read of how many times the Americans nearly had a nuclear war from a screwup, you wouldn't discount the possibility of hacking causing one. Particularly as the Soviets and Russian rarely if ever publicise their problems. I know of two, and logic dictates the Soviets were no more flawless than the yanks. One of the reasons given for maintaining minuteman missiles on alert, was because of its stone age systems, it was impossible to hack. Stop and think about that, obsolescence is a virtue. No, I don't think UVB76 is part of perimetr, if it exists, it's too localised and quirky. But why chance it? After all, you said all these months you didn't want to support Ukraine, because it might start a nuclear war. So why take the chance by meddling with something we don't understand? Edited February 27, 2022 by Stuart Galbraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, jaro said: my theory is, he is dying, and wants to restore "great russia" (intentionally not using capital letters there) no matter what, even if that was the last thing he and entire world would see... so when surviving oligarchs get out of their bunkers 30 years later they can became claiming planned for this dream... against all sort of mutated creatures.. With all my respect. i'm affraid it is not your theory, sorry. Let me quite from my earlier posts: ""Putin was not handsome even in his best years, so nothing new in it – despite of this, he is still popular among general population not concerned about politics. Personally, I’m afraid Putin is terminally ill and know this, resulting in his desire to rush forward and take unpopular steps (like pension reform) while he is still President - as from political point of view there was no need for him to implement this reforms now, loosing few points of his rating. Also, I have impression he is paying more and more attention to requests of terminally ill patients on different occasions." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, seahawk said: It is the start, once Russia fully mobilizes the resistance will be crushed. You don't seem to grasp geography, Russia would have to mobilise it's reserves to come close to occupying Ukraine! This was supposed to be a lightning operation and it's all gone to hell, if they are running out of fuel now adding even more demand on the logistics trains is a sure fire way of creating your own disaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaro Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Roman Alymov said: With all my respect. i'm affraid it is not your theory, sorry. Let me quite from my earlier posts: ""Putin was not handsome even in his best years, so nothing new in it – despite of this, he is still popular among general population not concerned about politics. Personally, I’m afraid Putin is terminally ill and know this, resulting in his desire to rush forward and take unpopular steps (like pension reform) while he is still President - as from political point of view there was no need for him to implement this reforms now, loosing few points of his rating. Also, I have impression he is paying more and more attention to requests of terminally ill patients on different occasions." i'll be damned.. i didnt read that one, but seems im not alone who thinks that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, glenn239 said: Cool. Feel free to put pics up on some of your work. Thanks, I will. I usually go for RC 1-16 scale ones these days. Just finished up the Chieftain and T55. My Dog is an rc tank enthusiast too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, jaro said: yeah, right.. thats why Russia now has no conditions in peace talks with Ukraine... but i guess this info will never appear in RT.. would be interesting to know how many people in Russia actually believe in stuff they put out (except Roman of course)... 2 weeks ago NATO was telling the Russians that Ukrainian neutrality was a 'non starter'. Now, the Ukrainians are going to Belarus for negotiations with Russia without precondition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaro Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gromit said: You don't seem to grasp geography, Russia would have to mobilise it's reserves to come close to occupying Ukraine! This was supposed to be a lightning operation and it's all gone to hell, if they are running out of fuel now adding even more demand on the logistics trains is a sure fire way of creating your own disaster! plus, Ukraine is 40 milion people country.. those all hate Russians now... even if Kyiv falls, insurgency will continue.. and they will get modern western weapons and full support for years to come.. Ukrainians have a history of partysanship.. Stalin couldnt take them down... you think Putin will??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaro Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 minute ago, glenn239 said: 2 weeks ago NATO was telling the Russians that Ukrainian neutrality was a 'non starter'. Now, the Ukrainians are going to Belarus for negotiations with Russia without precondition. thats a spindoctor thing... no preconditions was coming from Russians.. not Ukrainians.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 minute ago, glenn239 said: 2 weeks ago NATO was telling the Russians that Ukrainian neutrality was a 'non starter'. Now, the Ukrainians are going to Belarus for negotiations with Russia without precondition. Don't think it was NATO making that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaro Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Oh, and btw BP is pulling out from Rosneft.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ant Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 6 hours ago, sunday said: Humanitarian assistance would be ok, but going into combat to be killed defending the loot of Jewish mobsters sounds like a good reason to be awarded a Darwin Award. Excuse me, what? Ukraine defending itself from Russian aggression is "defending the loot of Jewsih mobsters"?? Are you ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Actually it's the Russians going without precondition. Ukraine has one, and it's territorial integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) Putin can claim (with some justification) the economic action against Russia is an act of war, this will escalate if they are not careful. Edited February 27, 2022 by Gromit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaro Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gromit said: Don't think it was NATO making that statement. All NATO was saying is, that Russians have no right, deciding if Ukraine will or wont be member of NATO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, jaro said: Oh, and btw BP is pulling out from Rosneft.. This is excellent news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaro Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Just now, Stuart Galbraith said: This is excellent news. Right? they are already screwed with Civilian air transportation, because EU wont provide any spare parts or new planes for their Airbus fleet.. now BP, so if something breaks on those pipes, they will probably repair it "1980 style" and we all remember what was effectivity back then with all those spills everywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Meanwhile Mariupol-Volnovakha highway is cut by DNR forces, so now Mariupol is de-facto blocked - and entire Azov sea cost isolated all the way from Rostov-on-Don to Crimea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, jaro said: Yeah, its going PEACHY https://t.me/news_echo/12464 Not a mark on them, so I doubt Azov had anything to do with it, other than finding them abandoned. This is a collapse in morale, or so it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaro Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/27-february-stratcom-we-saw-mr-putins-statement-on-his-nuclear STRATCOM got the message.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, glenn239 said: Germany's back, baby! About fucking time. If there's one good thing to come from this shit show, it'll be that Germany will finally throw off the WW2 guilt shit and take real leadership in Europe. Does that mean German Troops marching in Paris to Panzerlied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, DB said: So, at what point does a "short, victorious war" transition to something less politically appetising? That point was reached a year ago, when Putin could have had a reasonable shot at one... but lost his nerve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 58 minutes ago, Gromit said: I am completely baffled by the end game of this invasion, this is going to ostracise Russia in the world community, it will mean financial and social hardship for Russian citizens, probably push Finland and Sweden closer to NATO or even into it, and just lead to a rearmament of NATO nations where they were basically disarming before. None of this makes sense in any long term scenario, every way Russia will suffer, does Putin want to become the next North Korea? Looks to me like the basic Russian calculation is that they can get by without relations with Europe or the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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