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Well, I guess then we're locked in. :D

 

Indeed I now see breakfast must be paid extra, which is unusual for Germany. But I also see over at the Sheraton and Hilton they charge € 32-33 for that, so it's still the most affordable regardless. There are refundable rates though, too.

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I have plugged a contact about St. Wendel and it seems a visit is generally possible. However, work and vacation schedules of several people involved are pushing planning back about two weeks, so the revised schedule will probably not be out before the one after next. Preparations are on track overall, though, and I would encourage everybody who hasn't done so yet to book rooms at the NH FFM soon.

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Sorry guys I am officially out... :( let's just say that this spring has changed things so that I'm not able to have vacation on early July... :ninja:

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Just to be certain: Check in is on Monday the 14th, check out on Sunday the 20th?

 

Sorry, I was completely swamped during the last two weeks. Yes, the above dates are correct.

 

I have heard back over St. Wendel, and they are checking availability of dates for a visit in our timeframe with hopefully quick results. I was also advised visitors would need to supply their full name, date of birth and passport/ID card number for access; once we get the go-ahead, please PM me or mail to banshee-one at gmx dot net with the above data. Final itinerary is dependant upon the date they give us and will be forthcoming at the same time.

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Finally heard back from Diehl; turns out they called our office some time ago already, but had the misfortune of my boss taking the call herself - information flow just doesn't work in that direction here. :D

 

This is not the St. Wendel depot of the HIL maintenance PPP itself, but the industry side at nearby Freisen. I'm not sure how division works between them, as the plant description is also depot-level maintenance for armored and unarmored vehicles of both the Bundeswehr and US Army. As a plus, they'll need just the names of visitors, no fancy stuff like birthdates and passport numbers. Please notify me accordingly if you don't use your real full name here, so I can provide them with a list.

 

We have scheduled the visit there for Thursday 17 July 1030 to ca. 1300 HRS including some bits to eat, which is very close to the original draft itinerary. I have also confirmed the Speyer Day including the winetasting in the evening for Friday the 18th, though the winery would have us a day earlier or later if necessary, too. I'll meet with Dave on the weekend, and we'll tie down the final schedule.

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Excellent. Please confirm that Markus Becker is your real name, otherwise PM me for my list I have to send for the Diehl visit. I found I already have everybody else's name on the current list of participants back from the 2011 I&I:

 

- Allan Wotherspoon

- BansheeOne

- BansheeFour

- Dave Clark

- Fritz (final confirmation pending)

- Harold Jones

- Ken Estes + wife

- Leo Niehorster

- Marek Tucan

- Markus Becker

- Sunday

 

I reported twelve to Diehl, and they have sent me a rather official agenda for the visit (see attachment). We do think at this point that Koblenz Day will be on Tuesday, Diehl/Fort Hackenberg on Thursday, Speyer/Sinsheim on Friday, with Luxembourg and Verdun to be put on either Wednesday or Saturday respectively pending receipt of some final information this week.

Agendaentwurf 17.07.2014.pdf

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After checking over some museum tours during the last two weeks, we have now what we think is the final itinerary.

 

Monday, 14 July - Arrival Day

Check in to NH Frankfurt Airport

 

Tuesday, 15 July - Koblenz Day

0900 leave hotel

1000-1300 Wehrtechnische Studiensammlung Koblenz

1300-1600 lunch in downtown Koblenz, possible visit of Deutsches Eck Rhine/Mosel confluence, Ehrenbreitstein Fortress or Deutsche Bahn Museum

1600-1715 Rhine cruise (alternate 1630-1730)

1830 return to hotel

 

Wednesday, 16 July - Verdun Day

0900 leave hotel

1100-1230 Westwall Museum Gerstfeldhöhe Niedersimten

ca. 1300 lunch on the run, probably some fast food at autobahn rest area

1500-1900 Verdun with battlefield, museum, cemetry/ossuary and Fort Douaument

2200 return to hotel

 

Thursday, 17 July - Saar Day

0900 leave hotel

1030-1300 Diehl Land Defence Systems Freisen, including lunch

1430-1630 Fort Hackenberg

1900 return to hotel

 

Friday, 18 July - Speyer-Sinsheim Day

0900 leave hotel

1000-1300 Auto- und Technikmuseum Sinsheim

1330-1500 lunch in downtown Speyer, possible visit of cathedral with tomb of medieval German kings and emperors

1500-1800 Technikmuseum Speyer

1900-2200 Spielmann-Schindler Winery Bobenheim am Berg

2300 return to hotel

 

Saturday, 19 July - Luxembourg Day

0900 leave hotel

1130-1300 Westwall Museum Irrel

1400-1500 lunch in Diekirch

1500-1800 Luxembourg National Military History Museum Diekirch

2100 return to hotel

 

Sunday, 20 July - Departure Day

For late leavers, the Zeppelin Museum Zeppelinheim near the airport might be worth a visit.

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Arrival on Monday is whenever. The Berlin cell will arrive in the late afternoon with an additional private car including GPS, so transportation is covered. There will probably be a joint dinner in the evening when everybody has checked in.

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I checked our schedule with Google maps and got the following results.

 

Koblenz: 230

Verdun: 600

Saar: 505

S+S: 260

Luxembourg: 465

 

Total : 2060 km

 

By the way, Diehl is near Idar Oberstein? They have offices in many places.

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Arrival on Monday is whenever. The Berlin cell will arrive in the late afternoon with an additional private car including GPS, so transportation is covered. There will probably be a joint dinner in the evening when everybody has checked in.

 

Be a good idea to have GPS for the van as well. Mind you, Allan will probably bring his again!

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Arrival on Monday is whenever. The Berlin cell will arrive in the late afternoon with an additional private car including GPS, so transportation is covered. There will probably be a joint dinner in the evening when everybody has checked in.

 

Be a good idea to have GPS for the van as well. Mind you, Allan will probably bring his again!

 

 

I take that as a hint that I should update my European map...

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I looked for alternative routes to save some kilometers:

 

 

Day 1 Koblenz:

 

226km over the Autobahn or 206km over the B260. The latter costs 20-25 minutes each way.

 

Day 2 Verdun:

 

600km. No useful alternatives.

 

Day 3 Saar:

 

147km to Diehl, 95 to Fort Hackenberg over the A62 and A230 back to the hotel over the A8 and A63: 472 km

 

Day Sinsheim and Speyer:

 

117km to Sinsheim, 40 to Speyer, 46 to the Winery and 96 to the hotel: 299km

 

Luxembourg:

 

198km to Irrel over the B50, 35km to Diekirch, 231 back to the hotel: 464km

 

 

Total: 2041km

 

 

The first time I calculated the with the fast route to Koblenz but forgot the visit at the Winery. The latter costs 50km.

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