DougRichards Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Check out this collection: some obviously fictional (I hope!) http://www.oobject.com/category/12-strange-tanks-and-armored-vehicles/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Tucan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Well only one is really bogus, all other crazy things are "real" (at least in the sense of article/model). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_Sobchak Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The Israelis are good for weird & wonderful because they don't like to throw anything away. Instead, they convert it. Hence all the Sherman-based SPGs & SP mortars, & the Centurions, captured T-55s etc. rebuilt into anything & everything. "It's a chassis. Put something on it." The Germans in WW2 were much the same with all their captured Czech & French tanks (& the hulls still coming out of the factories). Yeah, the Israelis had a boatload of T...62s? regunned with M68/L7 105s and re-engined with teledyne diesels. Did they keep those for own use or sell them after re-manufacturing? I don't think they put Teledyne AVDS-1790s into any of the Tiran 5 (captured T54/55) or Tiran 6 (captured T62). The 1790 won't fit inside one unless the hull is extensively modified. Check out the Egyptian Ramses 2 if you want to see what is required to shoehorn a 1790 into a soviet tank. They regunned the Tiran 5 with the L7 105mm gun but they left the soviet 115mm gun in the Tiran 6. The other main modification of these vehicles was to put a bunch of stowage boxes on the turret to make them look more "Israeli" and less "Soviet" so as to avoid friendly fire incidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOW-2 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The Israelis are good for weird & wonderful because they don't like to throw anything away. Instead, they convert it. Hence all the Sherman-based SPGs & SP mortars, & the Centurions, captured T-55s etc. rebuilt into anything & everything. "It's a chassis. Put something on it." The Germans in WW2 were much the same with all their captured Czech & French tanks (& the hulls still coming out of the factories). Yeah, the Israelis had a boatload of T...62s? regunned with M68/L7 105s and re-engined with teledyne diesels. Did they keep those for own use or sell them after re-manufacturing? I don't think they put Teledyne AVDS-1790s into any of the Tiran 5 (captured T54/55) or Tiran 6 (captured T62). The 1790 won't fit inside one unless the hull is extensively modified. Check out the Egyptian Ramses 2 if you want to see what is required to shoehorn a 1790 into a soviet tank. They regunned the Tiran 5 with the L7 105mm gun but they left the soviet 115mm gun in the Tiran 6. The other main modification of these vehicles was to put a bunch of stowage boxes on the turret to make them look more "Israeli" and less "Soviet" so as to avoid friendly fire incidents. Okay; as quick as I can dig them out this weekend I'll gather up my books and see what they say. I must be crossing my wires on what engines went where and which guns and so forth. Thanks for setting me on the right track (ugg terrible pun, sorry ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chino Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Finnish VK Why did you have to dig up pic find this worthless POS... It's kinda cute. Reminds me of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Check out this collection: some obviously fictional (I hope!) http://www.oobject.com/category/12-strange-tanks-and-armored-vehicles/Only #9 is a total fabrication. The rest were either working models, mock ups, or conception drawings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin-Phillips Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Really scary; Land battleship or land submarine? The use of sloped armour is fairly evident. Looks like Tracklayer CLB75 is written on there. Not sure if it was just a prototype or a few were built, by the company C.L. Best; who would later merge with the Holt Tractor Company to form one of the most familiar names in earthmoving history today, Caterpillar. I honestly had no idea they built such things, although they did construct some machines either for use as a prime mover or to be used directly as the chassis for howitzer use? Fascinating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcmtank Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 This link http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2012/05/strangest-tanks-in-history-part-2-first.html says it's "Best's Track Machine, Model 75" and that 50 were ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin-Phillips Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 This link http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2012/05/strangest-tanks-in-history-part-2-first.html says it's "Best's Track Machine, Model 75" and that 50 were ordered. Not so much a prototype then, if the full order was completed. Just seems a little strange that in the books covering Caterpillar's history which I have in my small collection, there's no mention of these vehicles. The Best 75 certainly, but not an armoured and armed version for use in what appears to be used for infantry support and/or breakthrough operations? It'd be nice to think there was a preserved example out there somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen.Wright Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Not so much a weird AFV as it is a weird use or re-appropriation of AFVs.The display is part of Hezbollahs war-museum in Southern Lebanon. (see below) Edited January 7, 2014 by Galen.Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Pellagio Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Not so much a weird AFV as it is a weird use or re-appropriation of AFVs.The display is part of Hezbollahs war-museum in Southern Lebanon. No it isn't and no its not. It is in Beirut, inside army headquarters. It is a peace monument by an artist named 'Arman'.There is an underground museum with a collection of guns next to it and a bunch of recoiless rifles on top. I've been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen.Wright Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Thanks for the correction sir. Nonetheless, interesting use of AFVs in an exhibit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Finnish VK Why did you have to dig up pic find this worthless POS... It's kinda cute. Reminds me of this: Thats not bad. Cute really. Hey it would good to have when the Zombies attack. No I haven't been cathing up on the The Walking Dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sami Jumppanen Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Well, if the zombie attack is the criteria then that just might be a good idea. It's top speed is something like 28 km/h and it has no suspension so zombies sufling after that then it just might do long as it can stay on the road. As for other apocalyptic scenarios it was made of off the shelf parts that were aviable from domestic manufacturers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Edmund Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Well, if the zombie attack is the criteria then that just might be a good idea. It's top speed is something like 28 km/h and it has no suspension so zombies sufling after that then it just might do long as it can stay on the road. As for other apocalyptic scenarios it was made of off the shelf parts that were aviable from domestic manufacturers... No suspension? Would that mean no off-road ability? Ok I have to look this up. What is its name? I tried Finnish VK but got nowhere. Edited January 7, 2014 by Edmund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieste Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Try this as a first step: Seems a prototype only, rejected after comparison to BTR60.http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=104247 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Thanks I found information there. Ok not very useful at that low speed. Still not bad looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOW-2 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Y'all ready for some sci-fi level stuff in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Estes Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Sure glad they were not built. M48s forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Sure glad they were not built. M4847s forever!Fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanoid Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Sparky approves: The Philippine Army will acquire 14 M113 armored personnel carriers in 2015 to boost its fire support capabilities. Army spokesperson Capt. Anthony Bacus said the M113 vehicles will be fitted with 76-mm turrets among others from decommissioned British-made Scorpion combat vehicle reconnaissance (tracked) units. "The vehicle will be equipped with modern fire control and thermal imaging equipment. Once it is completed, the 76mm cannon armed M113s will be quite lethal," Bacus added.The Army of Philippine is currently operating over 100 M113 units, and the would-be acquisitions are manufactured by BAE Systems Land and Armaments. http://www.armyrecognition.com/january_2014_global_defense_security_news_industry/army_philippine_to_acquire_m113_armoured_personnel_carrier_fitted_with_76mm_scorpion_turret_0801143.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Hey, that's a good Aussie idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOW-2 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Speaking of sci-fi tanks, one that got built and used was a modification of an American vehicle - M4? that had a conical turret...anyone remember what I'm talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) http://pt.scribd.com/doc/65471518/motomitragliatrice-mias http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_2000 Edited January 12, 2014 by lucklucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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