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No, there is a slight chance the South Koreans may be interested in a smaller purchase but I'm pretty sure that Boeing cut the canted vertical stabilizer unless somebody wants to pay extra to develop and test all of that.

 

That further reduces the utility of the internal weapons bay option, not worth the reduced CFT fuel.

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Its funny that the US seems to hide its black projects better than the authoritarian Chinese. Earlier this month, three UFO were spotted over Texas in formation. For there to be three of them it suggest that they are more than just a prototype. Maybe an F-117 style operational secret unit.

 

The Chinese reveal their black projects as part of intentional chest thumping propaganda. The PRC is much more about appearing to be strong to coerce neighbors than actual capability. This is not to say that they haven't made great strides across the board in technology and training, just to say that the primary goal in revealing their numerous 'black' projects is political driven and less about war fighting capability. Most of the photos of new stealth jet projects were pretty clearly taken by insiders and likely rolled out to the web by agents of the PRC (with plenty of fan bois jumping on of course). I consider it part of a broader 'look at what we're capable of' type media campaign.

 

I think they stand to benefit from seeming more capable than they are by having projects that seem revolutionary but may not hit IOC any time soon or ever. Consider: the 'carrier killer' DF-21D. Its got lots of armchair generals spooked and people declaring the CVBG obsolete. They only known test however was against a static outline of a CV in a desert; something that could easily be done with any standard IRBM using, ironincally, USAF run satellite guidance. No other publicly known test has been carried out and its not known to be operational. Its not like they could hide a test from an IRBM sized weapon against a moving target in the ocean inside the first island chain very easily even from civilian eyes. But its much more useful for them to imply they might have a weapon that works by rolling out these projects than to truly test them and potentially prove that they don't. There's some deterrence value there. There is no reason to assume that high tech, software integration intensive projects in the PRC don't meet with the same engineering problems they do in the west. Its just that since they don't print budgets, schedules, etc their projects are never over budget or behind and just their existence at all makes it look like the PRC is capable of perhaps more than it truly is. I'm sure there are plenty of actual black projects that we aren't privy to because the PRC truly considers them too sensitive or simply not sufficiently adding to the propaganda effect to be worth giving away.

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Son of a frikkin' gun.

 

Do you know how much I PAID for the Trumpeter J-20 kit???? Now I'm going to have to go out and buy the revised one! ;)

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Silent Eagle, Quiet Hornet? :blink: :o

Hush Hush Harrier, Tiptoe Typhoon. The possibilities are endless. :)

 

 

Would that make the PAK-FA, the "Faint Flanker"?

 

And shouldn't a silent "Typhoon" be more of a... "Breeze"?

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Son of a frikkin' gun.

 

Do you know how much I PAID for the Trumpeter J-20 kit???? Now I'm going to have to go out and buy the revised one! ;)

 

 

Shit! Did you buy this one too?

 

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^That must be the all new Joint-JSF F-3576234101 Boondogle!!!!!!!!

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I'm pretty sure that was a Lockheed demonstrator (unmanned) relating to one of the programs preceding JSF. Either JAST, CALF, SSF or something else. It was quite a series of programs which dated back to the mid '80s looking to develop a next-generation STOVL aircraft. I don't think it actually "flew" but it was used in some sort of rig to test the lift system. Supposedly this had had the "X-32" designation before it was reassigned to Boeing's JSF tech demonstrator which ultimately lost out to Lockheed's X-35.

 

 

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Makes sense, the original artists impressions for F35 looked like a single engine F22 and this is basically a canard layout mini f22 with VTOL capability.

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If I remember correctly it was designed to be stealthy in space. I think thought the understanding was mainly through its ability to maneuver and change position to help fool trackers on the ground.

 

Avenger drone was spotted

 

 

Pics at the link

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/exclusive-photos-avenger-the-camry-of-advanced-combat-1571300984

 

 

I think someone should make a mash up of different countries defense companies promotional sales videos each featuring the same lines of products but with completely opposite wonder weapon results

 

http://youtu.be/v0dHKWjXn-E

 

http://youtu.be/hsgQ83irr0o

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Any idea what this might be?

http://youtu.be/sKTSEElVuwI

My initial feel is that someone has shopped the ufo into a motar/artillery stonk or could be a new as yet unreported class of UCAV.

Personally, I'm going with the tube delivered HE.

 

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My initial feel is that someone has shopped the ufo into a motar/artillery stonk or could be a new as yet unreported class of UCAV.

Personally, I'm going with the tube delivered HE.

 

Charles

 

You are correct, it was actually a JDAM that was shopped. My apologies.

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