Ivanhoe Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/utter-stupidity-conservatives-appalled-tucker-195702840.html Quote Tucker Carlson has his newest target: Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the anti-Nazi, Christian evangelist executed by the Third Reich in 1945. In the latest episode of his show, which was dedicated to denouncing Jewish-American commentators Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, Carlson remarked that “once you start calling people Nazis, we really have no choice but to start shooting them. To be Dietrich Bonhoeffer and sort of reach the end of reason, or even Christianity. Bonhoeffer decided Christianity’s not even-, he was a Lutheran pastor. Christianity is not enough, we have to kill the guy [Adolf Hitler]. I’m not judging Bonhoeffer, who was a great man in some ways, but that’s inevitable once we decide that people are Nazis.” Something screwy going on with X.com and the board software. In the short run, I think it best to post a screenshot of a tweet rather than the link itself.
Ivanhoe Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 This is a good take, IMHO. Its the old propaganda thing of causing people to believe nothing, so they'll believe anything. Very Russian/er, Soviet.
Ivanhoe Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 Here's a good take on the whole conservative civil war thing;
urbanoid Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1989089702088147307
urbanoid Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 32 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/utter-stupidity-conservatives-appalled-tucker-195702840.html Something screwy going on with X.com and the board software. In the short run, I think it best to post a screenshot of a tweet rather than the link itself. This Bonhoeffer guy was probably spreading rumors that Hitler was a nazi to justify the attempts on his life.
Ivanhoe Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 25 minutes ago, urbanoid said: This Bonhoeffer guy was probably spreading rumors that Hitler was a nazi to justify the attempts on his life. Hitler was no Nazi, he was merely a Democratic Socialist. 😉
sunday Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 Gentlemen, are you serious? This is beginning to look like an outbreak of Carlson Derangement Syndrome.
Ivanhoe Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 Says the guy who brings Joos into nearly every FFZ thread.
sunday Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 (edited) Sill looking for antisemites under the bed before sleeping? Edited November 14, 2025 by sunday
R011 Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 6 hours ago, sunday said: More than a seed of truth there. Churchill was enthusiastic about the start of WWI, for instance. Possibly he was the man that did more to finish the German, Austro-Hungarian, and Russian Empires. The British Empire too. He was just one Cabinet member among many in 1914 and not the leader, officially or unofficially. I suppose he can take some credit for the condition of the RN and its readiness for war, but doubt another miinister would have made a decisive difference. The RN probably did more to win the war by blockade than anyone else. If one person could be said to be responsible for WWI, it would be Wilhem II His policies led to Germany being enemies with Britain and Russia and tied 8them to Austria-Hungary and the Balkans. The British Empire was doomed once a sense of Indian nationhood took hold. If the wars hadn't happened, they'd have still lost it.
NickM Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 1 hour ago, sunday said: Sill looking for antisemites under the bed before sleeping? We das sprechin about der Aryan, und now we sprechen about de Jew=din!: Der Jew-Din! Oh Der Jew-Din! Makin' Saurkrauten out of der Jew-din! Stranglisch der Jew-din! Grrrrr...Der Jew-din! "His excellency was making a reference to Jewish People".
NickM Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 4 hours ago, urbanoid said: This Bonhoeffer guy was probably spreading rumors that Hitler was a nazi to justify the attempts on his life. I saw a 'defaced' Bonhoeffer leaflet at SF State once upon a time...the 'first they came; then they came for...and I did nothing....in the end, somebody x'd out the 'they came for me' and wrote over with a big felt pen 'AND THEY WERE ALL THE SAME PEOPLE, SO I STILL DID NOTHING'.
sunday Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 1 hour ago, NickM said: () It is somewhat worrying you found that was funny enough to share.
sunday Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 3 hours ago, R011 said: (...) Very in the line of the Canadian establishment. Nothing else shall be expected from you.
sunday Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 I am sorry, but one could not have a discussion with Zionists here.
NickM Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, sunday said: I am sorry, but one could not have a discussion with Zionists here. The zayon monsters who threaten Ekotian space Edited November 15, 2025 by NickM
R011 Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 (edited) 7 hours ago, sunday said: Very in the line of the Canadian establishment. Nothing else shall be expected from you. I don't know about "the Canadian establishment" but what I said about Churchill was entirely factual and about Wilhelm and India well supported by fact. If you have actual data to the contrary, please post. Edited November 15, 2025 by R011
Josh Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 I think a lot of you are dancing around the fundamental question: is Fuentes wrong? Are you on his side? If not, what does that say about everyone who is?
rmgill Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 41 minutes ago, Josh said: I think a lot of you are dancing around the fundamental question: is Fuentes wrong? Are you on his side? If not, what does that say about everyone who is? Please, for our edification and to test if you understand it, what is Fuentes' position? Please articulate it here, in your own words.
urbanoid Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 To me it seems more like Fuentes has 'streams of consciousness', he can be changing his mind often and his opinion from one week can be contradictory to the opinion from the previous one. A bit from Fuentes-Carlson-Owens lore, it's all from the current year: https://x.com/FuentesUpdates/status/1951497124652450139 https://x.com/ImperiumFirst/status/1951333736185774176 https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1967930664717783095
Skywalkre Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 Was originally going to post this one in the "When Defending Cops Becomes Impossible" thread, but the level of stupid involved in this case ranged across the entire spectrum of the Right in this area - the people who made the complaint, the local prosecutor and judge who signed off on everything, and the sheriff (you can look up his interview with a local station that just... did not go well). The article does a terrible job explaining what happened. If folks are interested there are plenty of vids up on YT of local news agencies covering this story that go into better detail. Basically, the man who was jailed was taking part in a discussion on FB regarding the Kirk assassination. He posted a pic of Trump with a quote Trump had made about a year before after a school shooting in a different state. Locals freaked out, because the city where that shooting took place had the same name as a local high school. The man was arrested for threatening a school (which he didn't do... the locals were just idiots) and jailed for over a month before, as far as I can tell, the local coverage got enough traction where authorities eventually dropped the charges and let him go. Quote A retired policeman posted a Charlie Kirk meme. He spent a month in jail. The 61-year-old Tennessee man plans to sue after authorities dropped charges over a political Facebook post. Free-speech advocates say it’s a symptom of a wider crackdown. October 31, 2025 By Will Oremus and Ben Brasch As a liberal in a deep-red Tennessee town, 61-year-old Larry Bushart knew the political memes he posted on Facebook tended to ruffle some feathers. He didn’t expect them to land him in jail. Bushart, a retired police officer, was released from Perry County Jail in Linden, Tennessee, on Wednesday, more than five weeks since he was arrested at home after sharing a Facebook post about the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk in Utah. The post quoted President Donald Trump saying “we have to get over it” after a deadly 2024 school shooting in Iowa. Authorities in Perry County had held Bushart on charges of threatening mass violence on school property, which he denied. “Very happy to be going home,” Bushart told local radio station WOPC outside the jail. “I didn’t seek to be a media sensation, but here we are.” Now he’s planning to sue, his attorney Joshua Phillips told The Washington Post on Thursday. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/10/31/larry-bushart-charlie-kirk-jail/
rmgill Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 https://www.cato.org/blog/free-larry-bushart-facebook-jail-isnt-supposed-be-real-place So...who's hypocrisy?
Skywalkre Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 39 minutes ago, rmgill said: So...who's hypocrisy? The Right... it's a county that went 85% for Trump in '24.
rmgill Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 Exept the folks on the right are also unhappy about this. See also the Cato article. You’re going to be posting about women being attacked on trains by lefty career criminals too right? Got any love for Crook County’s latest drama?
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