The Insane Rationalizations, Bigotry And Hypocrisy Of The Right

[Murph]

I always had a funny feeling about him, and his seeming lack of enthusiasm for his president.

[Ivanhoe]

Candace Owens now claiming Trump killed Charlie Kirk;

https://rumble.com/v70ok0a-candace-owens-suggests-donald-trump-and-netanyahu-assassinated-charlie-kirk.html

My concern is that this topic is tearing Candace away from her critical investigation into whether Mcron's wife is a tranny or not. 

 

[Tim the Tank Nut]

I do not understand what has happened to Candace Owens but something is clearly not operating as it is supposed to.

[Murph]

1 hour ago, Tim the Tank Nut said:

I do not understand what has happened to Candace Owens but something is clearly not operating as it is supposed to.

Yeah, she has really jumped the shark.

[sunday]

Let she produce the evidence.

[DKTanker]

15 minutes ago, sunday said:

Let she produce the evidence.

Don't you already have all the evidence?  

[DKTanker]

2 hours ago, Tim the Tank Nut said:

I do not understand what has happened to Candace Owens but something is clearly not operating as it is supposed to.

It's not the first time she's laid the blame for global ailments upon Israel and Jews.

[sunday]

11 minutes ago, DKTanker said:

Don't you already have all the evidence?  

Quite a disingenous thing to write.

[sunday]

13 minutes ago, DKTanker said:

It's not the first time she's laid the blame for global ailments upon Israel and Jews.

You know that as not true because, for instance:

https://x.com/i/trending/1981327800976957774

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Pastor John Hagee Declares Jewish People God's Chosen Above All Nations Including US
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Pastor John Hagee, founder of Christians United for Israel, stated at the 45th Annual Night to Honor Israel event in San Antonio on October 21, 2025, that the Jewish people are God's special treasure above all nations, including the United States, citing Deuteronomy 7:6. The event, hosted by Hagee Ministries and CUFI, featured speeches on biblical support for Israel, with U.S. Senator Ted Cruz addressing the crowd on aid amid Middle East tensions. Hagee's remarks, shared via video clips, drew varied reactions on X, with critics viewing them as promoting ethnic supremacy and influencing U.S. policy, while defenders emphasized the direct biblical quote without political intent.
This story is a summary of posts on X and may evolve over time. Grok can make mistakes, verify its outputs.

 

[Ivanhoe]

What does the above have to do with Candace Owens?

 

[sunday]

Really?

[Ivanhoe]

https://freebeacon.com/media/its-time-we-once-again-took-out-the-trash-scott-jennings-on-the-attempt-to-hijack-conservative-institutions/

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Scott Jennings addressed the Republican Jewish Coalition Leadership Summit on Saturday. The CNN analyst and Washington Free Beacon Man of the Year's remarks came two days after Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts planted the organization's flag—in dramatic fashion—with the podcast host Tucker Carlson days after Carlson conducted a friendly interview with Hitler and Stalin fan Nick Fuentes.

 

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The "West" is not just a place on a map; it's a set of ideas born in Jerusalem, Athens, and Rome, and carried forward by generations who believed in truth, individual responsibility, and the rule of law. It's the civilization that produced the Bible, the university, and the Constitution—that taught us that freedom is sacred because it flows from God, not government.

 

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For our leaders, let me make a suggestion: do not pussyfoot around this. Do not play footsie with it. Do not look the other way. Do not fear losing the support of a hateful band of brain-addled anti-Semites. You don’t want them anyway.

What good is our movement if we can’t act any better than the radical left, which refuses to purge itself of the same kind of hate? This nation led the free world against the forces of darkness not that long ago, relegating the ideology of anti-Semitism to the dustbin of history. I humbly submit to all conservatives: it’s time we once again took out the trash.

 

 

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America is the last best hope for the West. It is obvious. And the Republican Party has always understood this fundamental truth: America and Israel stand together because we are both inheritors and defenders of the Western tradition.

This was in response to the Heritage Foundation's president cozying up to Tucker Carlson. 

https://nypost.com/2025/11/03/us-news/heritage-foundation-in-revolt-over-tucker-carlson-defense-after-controversial-nick-fuentes-interview-footsie-with-literal-nazis/
 

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WASHINGTON — One of the largest conservative think tanks in Washington, DC, has been roiled by its president’s embrace of Tucker Carlson after the conservative podcaster hosted white nationalist Nick Fuentes on his show, prompting an outcry from senior staff.

Internal chats reviewed by The Post show high-ranking members of the Heritage Foundation told each other privately how “embarrassed” and “disgusted” they were by Kevin Roberts’ “ridiculous” decision to come to Carlson’s defense over the sitdown with Fuentes, 27, who has expressed antisemitic views and denied that the Holocaust happened.

“I’m disgusted by this and don’t understand how this premeditated and orchestrated response could come out of one of the biggest think tanks in the world,” one wrote.

 

 

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The ripple effect from Roberts’ statement has gone beyond staff issues, with sources close to the think tank saying that it has been “hemorrhaging” evangelical Christian and Jewish contributors.

“This is ridiculous, on the one hand, KDR [Roberts] says that we can’t ‘cancel our own people,’ referring to Tucker and Fuentes, when, on the other hand, he literally cancelled the Boston College Republicans by calling them a bunch of ‘soft men‘ to whom the future doesn’t belong,” one Heritage staffer said in the private chat group.

 

 

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References to Heritage’s sponsorship of the Tucker Carlson Network, which hosts the show Fuentes appeared on, seem to have been scrubbed from the think tank’s donations page since some point last week.

I don't know enough about Roberts to divine his value system, but his laughable tone-deafness on the issue makes him incapable of serving the interests of Heritage and its members, much less the country as a whole. 

 

 

 

[Ivanhoe]

Nice X-post from Robert George;

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I am—notoriously, for some of my fellow conservatives—committed to the principle of free speech for everybody, including people with whom I profoundly disagree even on the most important issues, indeed, including racists and other bigots. But defending their rights does not mean allying with them, welcoming them into our movement, or treating them as representing legitimate forms of conservatism.

I am also—again, notoriously, for some of my fellow conservatives—willing to engage people with whom I deeply disagree, so long as they are honest and are willing to do business in the proper currency of intellectual discourse, a currency consisting of reasons, evidence, and arguments. (It is pointless to engage bad faith actors, charlatans, and con men.) But, again, engaging and forcefully arguing against people who deny the inherent and equal dignity of all is one thing, welcoming them into the movement or treating their ideas and ideologies as representing legitimate forms of conservatism is something entirely different.

 

For reasons unknown, Roberts is clinging to Carlson despite Carlson's descent into madness. Loyalty over principle usually works out badly in the long run. 

 

[Ivanhoe]

Bret Weinstein does a middlin' dive on Nick Fuentes;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qza06QJ6imE

Fuentes stuff starts at about 13:45. Bret illustrates Fuentes' shtick fairly well; much the time posturing as a balanced social critic and wrapping himself in the flag of free speech, then going way off the deep end. 

For me, Carlson was cooked as soon as he did his Putin propaganda piece. In a way, Carlson seems to be a narcissistic clout-chaser. Once he stakes out his own position on something, he propagandizes it incessantly. Its as if the important thing to Carlson is not the facts or principles involved, it is the imposition of his influence on reality. 

 

 

[Murph]

1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:

Bret Weinstein does a middlin' dive on Nick Fuentes;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qza06QJ6imE

Fuentes stuff starts at about 13:45. Bret illustrates Fuentes' shtick fairly well; much the time posturing as a balanced social critic and wrapping himself in the flag of free speech, then going way off the deep end. 

For me, Carlson was cooked as soon as he did his Putin propaganda piece. In a way, Carlson seems to be a narcissistic clout-chaser. Once he stakes out his own position on something, he propagandizes it incessantly. Its as if the important thing to Carlson is not the facts or principles involved, it is the imposition of his influence on reality. 

 

 

I have to agree, I lost a lot of respect for Carlson after he started his own channel.  As for Fuentes, I vaguely know who he is, but do not listen.  

[urbanoid]

21 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Bret Weinstein does a middlin' dive on Nick Fuentes;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qza06QJ6imE

Fuentes stuff starts at about 13:45. Bret illustrates Fuentes' shtick fairly well; much the time posturing as a balanced social critic and wrapping himself in the flag of free speech, then going way off the deep end. 

For me, Carlson was cooked as soon as he did his Putin propaganda piece. In a way, Carlson seems to be a narcissistic clout-chaser. Once he stakes out his own position on something, he propagandizes it incessantly. Its as if the important thing to Carlson is not the facts or principles involved, it is the imposition of his influence on reality. 

 

https://x.com/SovMichael/status/1985693068637438273

 

[urbanoid]

A sensible take as opposed to 'Israel obsession' (whether pro or anti) on the right.

https://x.com/restoreorderusa/status/1985466205390410114

https://x.com/restoreorderusa/status/1985535048771146058

 

[Ivanhoe]

D-nozzles that are claiming that American conservatism is primarily focused on Israel are kinda letting us know what their own obsessions are. 

Guys like Carlson are getting histrionic because Main Street isn't following him like the Pied Piper. 

Musical interlude;

 

[Stargrunt6]

I'm tellin y'all it's (self) sabotage!

 

[Ivanhoe]

[sunday]

Ah, The Talmudic Bee never disappoints...

[Ivanhoe]

Bongino and Rep. Massie are scuffling over the J6 bomber case;

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/11/13/fbi-deputy-director-bongino-has-had-enough-of-the-thomas-massie-nonsense/
 

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Thomas Massie has been bad news for a long time and is ABSOLUTELY, UNDENIABLY a walking visible representation of the attitude, disposition and intents of the narrow-minded tribe that travels under the DeSantis banner.

Yesterday, in his latest operation to divide the MAGA base, which is his primary mission – and has been for a long time, Thomas Massie used the background sentiment of distrust in the FBI, which is valid – but in this example also serves his purpose, to claim the FBI was targeting ‘whistleblowers’ who have grifted themselves into optimal financial position around the issue of the J6 pipe bomber.

 

Massie is the best guy on a few topics, but the rest of the time he seems to relish being a 5th columnist. I won't cry if/when he is primaried. 

[sunday]

7 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Massie is the best guy on a few topics, but the rest of the time he seems to relish being a 5th columnist. I won't cry if/when he is primaried. 

Of course you do not. MIGA!

[Ivanhoe]

[sunday]

More than a seed of truth there. Churchill was enthusiastic about the start of WWI, for instance.

Possibly he was the man that did more to finish the German, Austro-Hungarian, and Russian Empires.

The British Empire too.