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20 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

A lie?  Really?  Your first example must be referencing that hospital ship that was sent to NYC at the start of COVID.  I don't remember the news outlets I was watching claiming 2 months.  That could have simply been a reporter with a bad source.  The Hunter Biden laptop and dossier story... I've actually seen retractions from major news outlets acknowledging they got those wrong.  How often does Fox do that?  How much as Fox been reporting on the Dominion trial with all the documents from Fox hosts highlighting they thought it was all BS but still peddled it?

Some of you need to get off this high horse that the other side is the only one doing bad shit.  There are plenty of YT clips from what most of you would call left-leaning news/comedy outlets highlight the brazenly out of touch and incorrect reporting done by Fox.

The bigger issue is the viewers who are driving this.  Fox was damaged from this lawsuit?  Sure... in that they'll probably lost viewers to OAN or whatever other challengers out there who will continue to spin (spin, not report) the news the way they want them to.  Their credibility wasn't damaged... because they didn't really have any to begin with (just like CNN or other outlets, regardless of leaning, that push the fringe viewpoints).

Let's see... was Fidel Castro a Cuban leader or a Cuban dictator? Now tell what NYT, WP, CBS, ABC, MSNBC etc use as classification?

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8 hours ago, lucklucky said:

Let's see... was Fidel Castro a Cuban leader or a Cuban dictator? 

Potaytoe, potahtoe. 

 

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12 hours ago, lucklucky said:

Let's see... was Fidel Castro a Cuban leader or a Cuban dictator? Now tell what NYT, WP, CBS, ABC, MSNBC etc use as classification?

A most evil racist, as Batista was a black person.

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4 hours ago, sunday said:

A most evil racist, as Batista was a black person.

Iooking at Cuban history,  I've often commented that  Bautista's only Real crime was being mulatto 

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11 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Potaytoe, potahtoe. 

 

 

It is how journalists stealthy legitimate or not Dictators.    You are being manipulated by the media.

CNN, NYT, WP, Reuters , AP etc classify Fidel Castro often as a Cuban Leader , so legitimise him. Instead if we go to Pinochet or other non leftist aligned dictators they are often called dictators . The Chilean Dictator, etc.

A Leader is someone there is no discussion about its legitimacy.

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https://www.kwtx.com/2023/05/23/councilman-found-passed-out-car-with-crack-pipe-police-say/

 

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CRANSTON, R. I. (WJAR) – Pressure is growing for a Rhode Island city councilman to resign after police released body camera video showing him passed out in his car with a crack pipe in his hand.

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Reilly allegedly told police he had had a relapse after being clean for 13 years, and that he’d been through a bad divorce.

He’s now going through the judicial system.

Hopkins said Reilly has brought up his struggles with addiction in past city council meetings.

 

 

Hard to imagine that the stresses of being a city councilman in a podunk town like Rhode Island (calling RI a state is an insult to real states!) could be all that bad. 

 

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https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/indiana-man-charged-with-felony-intimidation-of-jim-banks/

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Aaron L. Thompson, 34, allegedly called Banks’s office eight times in early April and left several threatening messages, according to a probable cause filing obtained by the Indiana Capital Chronicle.

"Here’s the choice. Your daughters grow up without their dad or you grow old without your daughters," the Fort Wayne man said. "Boom, boom you pick."

Thompson told Banks he owned a gun and said he hoped Banks would die in a car accident or have "his brains blown-out."

 

 

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He was intoxicated...

You know, I've never once threatened to kill a man's daughters because I strongly disagreed with his political position. I've been drunk too. Why is it even suggested that being drunk is any sort of mitigation?

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Fun fact, "having been drunk" leads to a more severe penalty in the German military code since it's considered an act of deliberation.

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I feel the same way about drunk driving homicides. You chose to go to a bar in your car. I don't care whether your decision to go home in the car when bladdered is a result of impaired judgement, you made the initial choice when sober.

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2 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Fun fact, "having been drunk" leads to a more severe penalty in the German military code since it's considered an act of deliberation.

Eons ago we sailors had a conversation that if you had to seek medical care due to a sunburn you be brought up on charges of damaging government property. Never looked into it, but a few of the officers thought "it sounds right."

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But the feds ARE running the cities. The Obama DOJ and their consent decrees are Very much running those police departments which is ruining the cities. 

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5 hours ago, JWB said:

Talk about the Freudian slip!

He should have just said the feds don't run the cities.

Definitely could have easily countered with that.

He dropped the ball and it's a bad clip... but also because the question itself wasn't that good.  He could have easily countered with "we can both help Ukraine and address issues at home".  He should have pushed back on some of the qualifiers in the statement as well that were just incorrect. 

- The economy has degraded?  Ehh... that's complicated and a lot of markers are fine.  What is still a major issue for the average American is inflation.  I would love for any politician to finally address this issue... in particular since this was the biggest concern voters had back in '22.
- Crime has gone up exponentially?  Umm... what?  Violent crime, especially murder, saw a rise during COVID but overall violent crime is still way better than even just fifteen years ago.
- Most folks can't find Ukraine on the map... Ok, if folks are that stupid we should care what they have to say about foreign policy?  If they're that clueless then there's no way they're going to understand the concerns with letting Ukraine fall and our role and responsibilities as part of NATO.

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21 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

  I would love for any politician to finally address this issue... in particular since this was the biggest concern voters had back in '22.

Yeah. How do we lower inflation? Not spending more and more money federally? Are we going to do that? 

21 hours ago, Skywalkre said:


- Crime has gone up exponentially?  Umm... what?  Violent crime, especially murder, saw a rise during COVID but overall violent crime is still way better than even just fifteen years ago.

I think you’re utterly out of touch here. 
 

Violent crime tends to track for all of the other types of crime. If homicide is up so will to the other lesser types. You think they are down because reporting of them is down. Its hard to hide a homicide. But a burglary or car break in can be written down as a vandalism (who cares about that?). 
 

This is the pattern that was used in Atlanta to make things seem better for the olympics. Talk to some cops. Look around. 

21 hours ago, Skywalkre said:


- Most folks can't find Ukraine on the map... Ok, if folks are that stupid we should care what they have to say about foreign policy?  If they're that clueless then there's no way they're going to understand the concerns with letting Ukraine fall and our role and responsibilities as part of NATO.

It might point to what is important to their lives as voters. Thats a real issue. What’s the alternative Sky? Install some DNC superdelegates to choose for them since they’re not qualified? 
 

How about a clear policy direction for the US’s foreign policy? What’s the US objective in the Crimea?

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15 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Yeah. How do we lower inflation? Not spending more and more money federally? Are we going to do that? 

I think you’re utterly out of touch here. 
 

Violent crime tends to track for all of the other types of crime. If homicide is up so will to the other lesser types. You think they are down because reporting of them is down. Its hard to hide a homicide. But a burglary or car break in can be written down as a vandalism (who cares about that?). 
 

This is the pattern that was used in Atlanta to make things seem better for the olympics. Talk to some cops. Look around. 

It might point to what is important to their lives as voters. Thats a real issue. What’s the alternative Sky? Install some DNC superdelegates to choose for them since they’re not qualified? 
 

How about a clear policy direction for the US’s foreign policy? What’s the US objective in the Crimea?

worse yet, in my little alcove folks have told their stories in the local 'rants and raves' facebook pages: some folks have confronted perps carrying out 'non violent offenses' like burglary or B/E or trying to steal catalytic converters from their cars, and invariably the perps threaten assault or point knives or guns at the civvies. But hey, no one got hurt so no crime is done, and the local DAs don't care because it's 'restorative justice'.

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^ I've told you, we're inverted from goodness and decency; the police are defending the savages and the politicians who use the savages as tools.  End policing, solve your own problems.  Shoot, shovel, shut up.  Stay shut the fuck up.  S/F....Ken M

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1 minute ago, EchoFiveMike said:

^ I've told you, we're inverted from goodness and decency; the police are defending the savages and the politicians who use the savages as tools.  End policing, solve your own problems.  Shoot, shovel, shut up.  Stay shut the fuck up.  S/F....Ken M

Yeah one hopes that when civvies go 'Frank Castle', the Po Po will simply ignore the perpetrators.

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On 7/16/2023 at 12:14 PM, rmgill said:

Yeah. How do we lower inflation? Not spending more and more money federally? Are we going to do that?

That's one small element out of many they could be doing.  I imagine you're trying to give the Rs (or some of them) credit for their recent efforts over the debt ceiling... but there's farm more they could be doing past that and, again, they're just not.

On 7/16/2023 at 12:14 PM, rmgill said:

Violent crime tends to track for all of the other types of crime. If homicide is up so will to the other lesser types. You think they are down because reporting of them is down. Its hard to hide a homicide. But a burglary or car break in can be written down as a vandalism (who cares about that?).

It's possible that could be the case.  Even then, when looking at homicides (and our most solid data is still only up through '21... with COVID still going strong) our currents rates are still better than they were for several decades up through the late 90s.

On 7/16/2023 at 12:14 PM, rmgill said:

It might point to what is important to their lives as voters. Thats a real issue.

And this is where a real politician (you'll note I also said Pence dropped the ball here) would explain that while they have concerns we can do things at home and abroad... and a great politician would highlight why it's so important that we support Ukraine in the current conflict.  Leaders have to lead, sometime... and that's so rare these days.

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Let's not forget the fact that some municipalities have data-massaged their way out of a statistical violent crime wave. Battery reduced to assault, battery/maiming reduced to ADW, etc.

Time series of data across the lockdowns are going to be a bit messed up, as well. The local city with a high violent crime rate has much lower than average murders YTD, which I think is mostly because the bangers sorted out their turf battles during the lockdown when the PD couldn't be bothered. 

 

 

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