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Republicans seek to install ‘permanent election integrity infrastructure’ across US (msn.com)

“We are trying to build a permanent election integrity infrastructure in every county in America that will be there to oversee what’s happening,” Mitchell said during an April appearance on Steve Bannon’s War Room podcast.

During the same podcast appearance Bannon asked her whether the summits were a chance to learn how to “take over and grab hold of and control the local apparatus in their local elections and then to network throughout the country, so we have an apparatus that’s unbreakable?” “That’s absolutely what we’re doing,” Mitchell said.

Who is attempting to rig elections?

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The Bannon wing of the GOP which is pretty much sidelined and the main stream part of the DNC which has been doing this for decades. Why do you think they resisted Voter ID so much? 

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Louisiana hospital denies abortion for fetus without a skull

Louisiana hospital denies abortion for fetus without a skull | Health care/Hospitals | nola.com

The state senator whowrote the law says that the hospital has interpreted the law incorrectly.  It looks as if the senator is right.  The law as written besides specifically mentioning certain conditions has a provision for other conditons that would lead to a dead or miribund child like this.

Had Roe versus Wade not stalled legislating abortion for a hlaf century, edge cases like this would have been worked out by courts, legislatures, and politicians by now.

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Getting people to actually discuss these edge cases honestly and seriously is beyond some folks abilities sadly. 

 

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Then again, maybe that's the long-needed acid bath to find the outlines of a solution a majority can agree on.

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Well, in what world should you have books teaching kids about various sexual predilections in elementary schools? 

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PPP loans were to address the government telling businesses to close and not operate. Which falls under the Takings Clause of the US Constitution. Forcing most businesses to close for months, yeah....something has to give there. Otherwise the government can't do that at all and just has to accept that businesses could tell them to pound sand. AND it was to keep those businesses able to employ their staff when they were otherwise told to not operate. 

The Government didn't take ANYTHING from students who took out loans on degrees. Not a very good comparison. But I don't expect that sort of nuance from the Brandon Administration. 

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Regardless of what you think of Biden (and most here don't care for him) you have to give props to the WH Twitter team that's been roasting hypocritical Rs over the last day or so.  This is some Trump level play.  :lol:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/white-house-ruthlessly-shames-gop-critics-of-biden-student-loan-handout-gets-slammed-hatch-act-violation

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Regardless of what you think of Biden (and most here don't care for him) you have to give props to the WH Twitter team that's been roasting hypocritical Rs over the last day or so.  This is some Trump level play.  :lol:

Only if you're an idiot or disingenuous and can't tell the difference between a federal program that compensates small businesses for having been told to shutter for months on end and helps them pay their employees and free money handed out to buy votes. 

This is like confusing a government grant with the GI Bill for a drafted soldier who goes over seas to war and comes back and gets some school tuition as a thank you. Yes, it's money from the government. Yes it's a sort of loan. For the former it's free shit. For the Latter it's compensation for things the government put you through. 

The PPP was a compensation for actions taken by the government. See also the takings clause. 
 

The Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) is a $953-billion business loan program established by the United States federal government during the Donald Trump administration in 2020 through the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES Act) to help certain businesses, self-employed workers, sole proprietors, certain nonprofit organizations, and tribal businesses continue paying their workers.

The Paycheck Protection Program allows entities to apply for low-interest private loans to pay for their payroll and certain other costs. The amount of a PPP loan is approximately equal to 2.5 times the applicant's average monthly payroll costs. In some cases, an applicant may receive a second draw typically equal to the first. The loan proceeds may be used to cover payroll costs, rent, interest, and utilities. The loan may be partially or fully forgiven if the business keeps its employee counts and employee wages stable. The program is implemented by the U.S. Small Business Administration. The deadline to apply for a PPP loan was March 31, 2021.[

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they tried and tried to shut us down but we were essential.  There were plenty of companies that got PPP money they shouldn't have gotten but there were many more who should've gotten it and couldn't or didn't.

The costs of being closed don't stop on the day you reopen.  The PPP was allocated based on payroll expenses so employees kept getting paid.  It didn't allocate funds for anything else although companies repurposed the funds in lots of cases.  After all cash is fungible.

Too many have already forgotten the uncertainty of those times.  None of us knew what was happening or what was getting ready to happen.  Of all the government's efforts I see the PPP program as something that gave businesses hope when there was little reason to have any.  It's very bad how many companies pocketed the funds but it was an unavoidable cost of the program.

I suppose we should've pursued it more thoroughly ourselves but it became pretty obvious that we weren't going to shut down.  When Covid finally caught up with us and wiped out 3/4 of our staff for an entire month it was far to late to qualify, even for round two of PPP.

Life is hard but at least I can say that we pay our bills with money that we earned.

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12 hours ago, rmgill said:

PPP loans were to address the government telling businesses to close and not operate. Which falls under the Takings Clause of the US Constitution. Forcing most businesses to close for months, yeah....something has to give there. Otherwise the government can't do that at all and just has to accept that businesses could tell them to pound sand. AND it was to keep those businesses able to employ their staff when they were otherwise told to not operate. 

The Government didn't take ANYTHING from students who took out loans on degrees. Not a very good comparison. But I don't expect that sort of nuance from the Brandon Administration. 

The main (and massive) difference is PPP forgiveness was written into the law itself:

"The principal of a PPP loan will be either partially or fully forgiven under certain circumstances.[79][65][80] A business may apply for loan forgiveness at any time on or before the maturity date of the loan, including before the covered period ends in the case of a business that has expended all of the PPP loan proceeds for which forgiveness is requested.[al][81]"

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*sigh*

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Does she campaign on religious values? 

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