The Insane Rationalizations, Bigotry And Hypocrisy Of The Right

[Stargrunt6]

Glad to know, I have been wanting to delete fb for years. The social contacts, including TN, kept me from doing so. Glad I did it, but it wasn't without its cost. Might start a thread here to talk about it.

[shep854]

It was guessed that you were too busy and to avoid professional conflicts.

Is it OK to copy your comment to the TN page?

Edited November 14, 2018 by shep854

[Stargrunt6]

Yep, feel free.

[sunday]

Glad to know, I have been wanting to delete fb for years. The social contacts, including TN, kept me from doing so. Glad I did it, but it wasn't without its cost. Might start a thread here to talk about it.

 

There is a TN group in MeWe, also.

[Ssnake]

... AND it does have some small health benefit--I drink a short glass of red wine every night, for the heart benefit.

 

Uh, that's been debunked by researchers from Copenhagen.

Turns out, red wine is just as detrimental to your health as any other form of alcohol. It's just that red wine consumption is very often covariant with an otherwise healthier diet. They analyzed a couple million sales receipts sorted by families to see what else they were buying, and red wine enthusiasts tend to eat more vegetables. Beer enthusiasts, on the other hand, tend to eat more chips and meat products. This difference neatly explains the health benefits of the elusive "component X" in red wine that researchers tried to isolate for decades.

 

Knowing this doesn't stop me from the occasional enjoyment of red wine, however.

[Stargrunt6]

 

 

Glad to know, I have been wanting to delete fb for years. The social contacts, including TN, kept me from doing so. Glad I did it, but it wasn't without its cost. Might start a thread here to talk about it.

There is a TN group in MeWe, also.

I won't be messing with any social media unless YouTube and reddit counts.

 

Yeah, what ssnake said. new research shows there is no safe level of alcohol consumption. Now let's see if that stops me from the occassional beer.

[shep854]

So right-wing insanity is merging with health quackery???

[Panzermann]

So right-wing insanity is merging with health quackery???

 

It has got electrolytes! It is what plants crave!

[Stargrunt6]

 

 

So right-wing insanity is merging with health quackery???

It has got electrolytes! It is what plants crave!

As long as it isn't that fluoride crap that's turning the frogs gay.

[Stargrunt6]

pardon my Mozambique drill

Edited November 14, 2018 by Stargrunt6

[Paul G.]

So this is what real political correctness in action looks like.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/matthew-whitaker-trumps-new-ag-declared-there-was-no-collusion-between-trump-and-russia

 

Express anti Trump bias as a member of the FBI...get fired.

 

Express pro Trump bias as a member of the Justice Department...get appointment as the AG.

[Skywalkre]

She has a point. If trends continue the demographics of the party aren't promising. Republicans are increasingly a party of the old and white. If this recent election is any indication they could be losing white female voters as well (though some just believe that's a byproduct of Trump specifically).

 

I've never really understood why Conservatives haven't tried to reach out to these other groups. I've heard some claim on here who are old enough to remember Reagan that he was an orator capable of selling Conservatism to all Americans. I certainly have no memory of a speaker capable of doing that since. It also hasn't helped that when Republicans are in power (and at the state level they've been in power across most of the country for several years now) they've usually pushed agendas of special interests over agendas based on real Conservative principles.

 

 

Mia Love: Republicans have failed to bring our message to minorities. It’s hurting the nation.

By Mia Love

December 12 at 9:39 AM

 

Mia Love, a Republican, represents Utah’s 4th Congressional District in the U.S. House of Representatives.

 

For too long, conservatives in my party have focused on administering purity tests instead of expanding our audience. And in doing so, we have too often failed to adequately articulate our party’s principles to others, allowing our opponents to define or caricature our principles for us.

 

We have especially failed to bring our message to, and connect with, women and racial minorities. And we have effectively written off cities as Democratic strongholds. Our nation is poorer for it.

 

Many on the right claim that some Americans oppose Republicans because of the proliferation of identity politics. But Republicans who accept that some Americans will inevitably vote Democratic simply because of their physical features or where they live are buying into the identity politics they so stridently object to.

 

As I prepare to leave Congress after a hard-fought election, I am not advocating a Republican version of identity politics. I oppose such tactics because they often strip people of their identity and reduce them to an avatar. As the only black Republican woman in Congress, I know this well. I have often been the target of insults from those who struggle to reconcile what they thought I should be with who I actually am.

 

This is far too common in American politics. We construct mental cages for people based on societal narratives, and we feel uncomfortable when they escape. When my friend Tim Scott, the only black Republican in the U.S. Senate, celebrated the passage of tax reform, an uninformed troll labeled him a “prop” — even though he was instrumental in crafting and passing the bill. And when I was photographed at the White House as President Trump signed a banking reform package, which included one of my bills, I received similar feedback.

 

But Republicans should not be so afraid of identity politics that we refuse to seek out the unique experiences that actually do contribute to people’s individual identity.

 

For example, during my time in Congress, I never understood why I had to fight so hard to make my perspective heard on immigration. My parents left Haitian soil for the United States in the early 1970s. They arrived here with nothing but hope in their hearts and a firm determination to work hard so that their family could enjoy the peace and opportunity that had eluded them in Haiti. They worked incredibly hard and insisted that their family contribute to their communities and society. Thirty-nine years later, we celebrated together as I was elected to Congress.

 

For my family, the American Dream is a tangible reality, not just a fanciful concept. This gives me a unique perspective that can help facilitate immigration policy that works for everyone. We must invite, not just tolerate, diverse perspectives to the table and ensure that their voices matter.

 

We must do a better job of connecting with individuals and families that may not traditionally vote Republican. We must listen to their experiences, visit them in their comfort zones and take their priorities to heart. Our policy implementations must be personal — not transactional. And we cannot fall into the trap of thinking that there are Democratic issues and Republican issues.

 

I believe in policies that protect life at all stages, preserve free markets, promote fiscal responsibility and limit government. There are millions of Americans who believe in these principles. But for them to believe in us, we must first show that we believe in them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/12/mia-love-republicans-have-failed-bring-our-message-minorities-its-hurting-nation/?utm_term=.39f617c193e7

Edited December 12, 2018 by Skywalkre

[Rick]

My understanding is that the GOP pull in the majority of married women.

[FlyingCanOpener]

It's weird because many minorities seem at first glance to be conservative (Try to find a African-American in the South outside of Atlanta or New Orleans in favour of any social platform peddled by Democrats apart from government benefits--I can wait), but there's zero effort at engaging them. Imagine what would happen to the Democrats if the GOP would actively court the Catholic Hispanic vote, for instance.

[urbanoid]

It's weird because many minorities seem at first glance to be conservative (Try to find a African-American in the South outside of Atlanta or New Orleans in favour of any social platform peddled by Democrats apart from government benefits--I can wait), but there's zero effort at engaging them. Imagine what would happen to the Democrats if the GOP would actively court the Catholic Hispanic vote, for instance.

 

I'd say Free Shit™ will be a decisive factor for many anyway.

[FlyingCanOpener]

True, but back when I taught at a school that was 90% African-American, I had a colleague who would do political compass tests in his class. The kids were all stark raving Obama fans, but when the results would come out, they were horrified to see that their opinion of the world was decidedly conservative. I find rural African-Americans in the South to be deeply conservative, and are affected by issues in the same way as poor whites who religiously vote Republican. The only difference between the two are the colour of their skin, and what political party they automatically vote for.

[Panzermann]

[NickM]

 

and how many decades old is this?

[CT96]

 

 

and how many decades old is this?

 

Old enough that the Republicans and the Democrats have switched places since.

[EchoFiveMike]

 

Here's the trend, shitlibs have gone left, "conservatives" have stayed the same, only moreso. Frankly, American conservatives haven't conserved shit, generally not since William Cuckley deplatformed the Birchers and any other true conservatives and did the thing the shitlibs would never have dreamed of, like a good little traitor. S/F....Ken M

[JWB]

Birchers?

[bojan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society

[JWB]

 

 

In the late 1960s Welch insisted that the Johnson administration's fight against communism in Vietnam was part of a communist plot aimed at taking over the United States. Welch demanded that the United States get out of Vietnam, thus aligning the Society with the left.^[44] The society opposed water fluoridation, which it called "mass medicine".^[45][46][47]

[EchoFiveMike]

The point was that Cuckley deplatformed anyone to the right of his precious National review, ending discussion and thought, moving the "conservatives" considerably Left. The "conservatives" have been a bunch of mewling pussies, worried about what the Left thinks of them and other contemptible weakness, rather than acting on behalf of their own people. They are rightfully passing into the dust of history, and will someday be grouped with other traitors like Quisling, Arnold, and the Judenratte. S/F....Ken M

Edited December 31, 2018 by EchoFiveMike

[toysoldier]

William Cuckley, the first cuck