The Insane Rationalizations, Bigotry And Hypocrisy Of The Right

[Mr King]

In Spain, my belief in small, limited government puts me on the extreme right, right next to the nazis, who as we know, were all about small government. Go figure.

 

I think that the European L-R spectrum, with fascism and communism at the extremes, is quite different from the American one, which is more of a big govt Vs small govt. But unfortunately it seems to be drifting more toward the European model.

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In the US if I didnt vote for Hillary or Obama, or adhere to the progressive narrative, I was a racist, bigot, un patriotic, a Russian bot, a Nazi, a White Supremacist, Alt Right, an incel, white trash, a deplorable, homophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist, transphobic.....I could go on, but I have work to do.

[Paul G.]

 

In Spain, my belief in small, limited government puts me on the extreme right, right next to the nazis, who as we know, were all about small government. Go figure.

 

I think that the European L-R spectrum, with fascism and communism at the extremes, is quite different from the American one, which is more of a big govt Vs small govt. But unfortunately it seems to be drifting more toward the European model.

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In the US if I didnt vote for Hillary or Obama, or adhere to the progressive narrative, I was a racist, bigot, un patriotic, a Russian bot, a Nazi, a White Supremacist, Alt Right, an incel, white trash, a deplorable, homophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist, transphobic.....I could go on, but I have work to do.

The victimhood is strong with this one.

[shep854]

Projection is strong in this one.

[Mike Steele]

 

 

In Spain, my belief in small, limited government puts me on the extreme right, right next to the nazis, who as we know, were all about small government. Go figure.

 

I think that the European L-R spectrum, with fascism and communism at the extremes, is quite different from the American one, which is more of a big govt Vs small govt. But unfortunately it seems to be drifting more toward the European model.

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In the US if I didnt vote for Hillary or Obama, or adhere to the progressive narrative, I was a racist, bigot, un patriotic, a Russian bot, a Nazi, a White Supremacist, Alt Right, an incel, white trash, a deplorable, homophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist, transphobic.....I could go on, but I have work to do.

The victimhood is strong with this one.

 

It"s stronger in you than him....

[Paul G.]

 

 

 

 

In Spain, my belief in small, limited government puts me on the extreme right, right next to the nazis, who as we know, were all about small government. Go figure.

 

I think that the European L-R spectrum, with fascism and communism at the extremes, is quite different from the American one, which is more of a big govt Vs small govt. But unfortunately it seems to be drifting more toward the European model.

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In the US if I didnt vote for Hillary or Obama, or adhere to the progressive narrative, I was a racist, bigot, un patriotic, a Russian bot, a Nazi, a White Supremacist, Alt Right, an incel, white trash, a deplorable, homophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist, transphobic.....I could go on, but I have work to do.

The victimhood is strong with this one.

It"s stronger in you than him....

Im not sure you understand how victimhood works Mike.

[Rick]

 

 

 

 

"Don't toe the line with certain posters' view of what real Conservatism is and you're branded as supporting Liberals."

 

Nonsense. Shep is a religious conservative, I'm a moderately socially liberal atheist. We're able to agree on some points and glide past each other on difference with ZERO umbrage. We get along so well that we drove to the Range event at PFT from Atlanta to West Virginia and it was a nice pleasant conversation ranging over topics with some disagreement but no anger, ill will or issues. He's a perfectly reasonable, acceptable and upstanding fellow.

Nonsense? Have you seen how DKTanker responds to many posters on here if he disagrees with them? He's the most blatant (and consistent) example but there are others. If it's also nonsense then what else explains the numerous posters who have left the ranks of TN over the years? Just a few days ago we had a brief exchange in one thread about the loss of civility (and the lack of moderation) here on TN. I don't think my claim is nonsense by any means.

 

That comment isn't painting every exchange in that manner. Like you I have civil exchanges with certain posters where we're clearly not on the same page. The point is, though, that regarding dialogue the quality of such to me has certainly deteriorated here on TN since I first joined nearly two decades ago.

Like I wrote recently in another thread: I've consistently voted center-right since I was 18 and I'm considered a hawkish conservative among my friends and relatives.

 

Yet on TankNet, over the years, I was called leftist, "leftist vermin", communist, antisemite, Honnecker (sic) and many other such nonsense.

 

I can only imagine how warped the political landscape in the US must be to drive people into a mindset where everyone left of them is a communist, but it certainly has an effect on taking people like DKTanker or Murph seriously in any discussion.

 

I've said it before, it's very much like the Democratic Underground in 2002 or so, only on the right side of the political spectrum. People are having a political rage-fest, constantly reinforcing one another while they indulge in their fever dreams of Soros-funded communist insurgencies.

Perhaps the center-right is different in your country than this one? What position is center and what position is right?

In Spain, my belief in small, limited government puts me on the extreme right, right next to the nazis, who as we know, were all about small government. Go figure.

 

I think that the European L-R spectrum, with fascism and communism at the extremes, is quite different from the American one, which is more of a big govt Vs small govt. But unfortunately it seems to be drifting more toward the European model.

 

Your second paragraph; from my American point of view, I see little difference between fascists and communists other than the former exploited race and the later capitalism. They both used an increase in abusive and horrible secular government power to further the consolidation of their power. The communists just got a better press in the U.S. due to, imo, universities.

[Rick]

 

In Spain, my belief in small, limited government puts me on the extreme right, right next to the nazis, who as we know, were all about small government. Go figure.

 

I think that the European L-R spectrum, with fascism and communism at the extremes, is quite different from the American one, which is more of a big govt Vs small govt. But unfortunately it seems to be drifting more toward the European model.

​

 

 

In the US if I didnt vote for Hillary or Obama, or adhere to the progressive narrative, I was a racist, bigot, un patriotic, a Russian bot, a Nazi, a White Supremacist, Alt Right, an incel, white trash, a deplorable, homophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist, transphobic.....I could go on, but I have work to do.

 

Mr. King understands the left.

[Paul G.]

 

 

 

In Spain, my belief in small, limited government puts me on the extreme right, right next to the nazis, who as we know, were all about small government. Go figure.

 

I think that the European L-R spectrum, with fascism and communism at the extremes, is quite different from the American one, which is more of a big govt Vs small govt. But unfortunately it seems to be drifting more toward the European model.

â

 

In the US if I didnt vote for Hillary or Obama, or adhere to the progressive narrative, I was a racist, bigot, un patriotic, a Russian bot, a Nazi, a White Supremacist, Alt Right, an incel, white trash, a deplorable, homophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist, transphobic.....I could go on, but I have work to do.

Mr. King understands the left.

Yes the left hurts the right's feelings. And because of that we have Donald Trump as President, the king of the "Its unfair" club.

[Chris Werb]

 

 

 

In Spain, my belief in small, limited government puts me on the extreme right, right next to the nazis, who as we know, were all about small government. Go figure.

 

I think that the European L-R spectrum, with fascism and communism at the extremes, is quite different from the American one, which is more of a big govt Vs small govt. But unfortunately it seems to be drifting more toward the European model.

â

 

In the US if I didnt vote for Hillary or Obama, or adhere to the progressive narrative, I was a racist, bigot, un patriotic, a Russian bot, a Nazi, a White Supremacist, Alt Right, an incel, white trash, a deplorable, homophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist, transphobic.....I could go on, but I have work to do.

Mr. King understands the left.

Yes the left hurts the right's feelings. And because of that we have Donald Trump as President, the king of the "Its unfair" club.

 

 

The King of, but not perhaps not the best contemporary exponent:

 

[rmgill]

Your second paragraph; from my American point of view, I see little difference between fascists and communists other than the former exploited race and the later capitalism. They both used an increase in abusive and horrible secular government power to further the consolidation of their power. The communists just got a better press in the U.S. due to, imo, universities.

 

 

As far as american political concepts go, fascism and socialism are two cheeks of the same ass. Both are wrong under US base legal concepts.

[MiloMorai]

 

Your second paragraph; from my American point of view, I see little difference between fascists and communists other than the former exploited race and the later capitalism. They both used an increase in abusive and horrible secular government power to further the consolidation of their power. The communists just got a better press in the U.S. due to, imo, universities.

 

 

As far as american political concepts go, fascism and socialism are two cheeks of the same ass. Both are wrong under US base legal concepts.

 

Are you saying the American political system is the bung hole?

[DB]

Given that every politician appears to be an asshole, nowadays, I think you're on the money.

 

But remember, One of them is *our* asshole, so that means they're OK.

[Mike Steele]

 

 

 

 

 

 

In Spain, my belief in small, limited government puts me on the extreme right, right next to the nazis, who as we know, were all about small government. Go figure.

 

I think that the European L-R spectrum, with fascism and communism at the extremes, is quite different from the American one, which is more of a big govt Vs small govt. But unfortunately it seems to be drifting more toward the European model.

â

 

In the US if I didnt vote for Hillary or Obama, or adhere to the progressive narrative, I was a racist, bigot, un patriotic, a Russian bot, a Nazi, a White Supremacist, Alt Right, an incel, white trash, a deplorable, homophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist, transphobic.....I could go on, but I have work to do.

The victimhood is strong with this one.

It"s stronger in you than him....

Im not sure you understand how victimhood works Mike.

 

Ive seen enough from you to know how it works .

Edited October 21, 2018 by Mike Steele

[Paul G.]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In Spain, my belief in small, limited government puts me on the extreme right, right next to the nazis, who as we know, were all about small government. Go figure.

 

I think that the European L-R spectrum, with fascism and communism at the extremes, is quite different from the American one, which is more of a big govt Vs small govt. But unfortunately it seems to be drifting more toward the European model.

â

 

In the US if I didnt vote for Hillary or Obama, or adhere to the progressive narrative, I was a racist, bigot, un patriotic, a Russian bot, a Nazi, a White Supremacist, Alt Right, an incel, white trash, a deplorable, homophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist, transphobic.....I could go on, but I have work to do.

The victimhood is strong with this one.

It"s stronger in you than him....

Im not sure you understand how victimhood works Mike.

Ive seen enough from you to know how it works .

Unsurity cleared up thanks.

[Paul G.]

This is just comical.

 

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/04/alt-right-women-are-upset-that-alt-right-men-are-treating-them-terribly/

 

"Alt-right women are upset that alt-right men are treating them terribly.

Some prominent alt-right women are calling for more equality and acceptance within the movement

[shep854]

This is just comical.

 

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/04/alt-right-women-are-upset-that-alt-right-men-are-treating-them-terribly/

 

"Alt-right women are upset that alt-right men are treating them terribly.

Some prominent alt-right women are calling for more equality and acceptance within the movement

 

The 'alts' are so far out there, they meet around back where it's hard to tell them apart...centrist 'alt'??

Edited October 31, 2018 by shep854

[Paul G.]

 

 

This is just comical.

 

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/04/alt-right-women-are-upset-that-alt-right-men-are-treating-them-terribly/

 

"Alt-right women are upset that alt-right men are treating them terribly.

Some prominent alt-right women are calling for more equality and acceptance within the movement

The 'alts' are so far out there, they meet around back where it's hard to tell them apart...centrist 'alt'??

Not sure how you can assign ANTIFA as part of the left without the Alt Right as part of the right.

[rmgill]

Are you saying the American political system is the bung hole?

No, it's the forward thinking head that balances individual rights with government powers.

 

Socialism and Fascism both discard individual rights at the will of the supreme state.

[rmgill]

Given that every politician appears to be an asshole, nowadays, I think you're on the money.

 

But remember, One of them is *our* asshole, so that means they're OK.

ergo, Churchill was as bad as Hitler... Is that what you're trying to prove?

[DB]

Churchill wanted the government to send the troops in to suppress a miners' strike in the 20s. He is also responsible for many other decisions or opinions that were widely considered to be questionable even in the context of the time. Does the fact that his style of government worked for us in wartime preclude him being badly wrong outside it?

[rmgill]

Churchill wanted the government to send the troops in to suppress a miners' strike in the 20s. He is also responsible for many other decisions or opinions that were widely considered to be questionable even in the context of the time. Does the fact that his style of government worked for us in wartime preclude him being badly wrong outside it?

So is that a yes?

 

[shep854]

 

 

This is just comical.

 

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/04/alt-right-women-are-upset-that-alt-right-men-are-treating-them-terribly/

 

"Alt-right women are upset that alt-right men are treating them terribly.

Some prominent alt-right women are calling for more equality and acceptance within the movement

The 'alts' are so far out there, they meet around back where it's hard to tell them apart...centrist 'alt'??

Not sure how you can assign ANTIFA as part of the left without the Alt Right as part of the right.

 

At the extremes they start acting alike, so the distinction begins to lack difference.

[DB]

 

Churchill wanted the government to send the troops in to suppress a miners' strike in the 20s. He is also responsible for many other decisions or opinions that were widely considered to be questionable even in the context of the time. Does the fact that his style of government worked for us in wartime preclude him being badly wrong outside it?

So is that a yes?

 

 

You want me to agree that I wrote something that you wrote that I wrote, when I didn't write what you wrote I wrote.

 

Don't be a child.

[Chris Werb]

 

 

 

This is just comical.

 

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/04/alt-right-women-are-upset-that-alt-right-men-are-treating-them-terribly/

 

"Alt-right women are upset that alt-right men are treating them terribly.

Some prominent alt-right women are calling for more equality and acceptance within the movement

The 'alts' are so far out there, they meet around back where it's hard to tell them apart...centrist 'alt'??

Not sure how you can assign ANTIFA as part of the left without the Alt Right as part of the right.

 

At the extremes they start acting alike, so the distinction begins to lack difference.

 

 

I think the difference is latent. I have trouble believing Antifa have any lethal capabilities. If you just look at these people, a lot of them are just teenage students - an army of emos. They almost redefine pathetic. The Alt Right on the other hand contains a lot of people with more muscular physiques, actual fighting skills, vastly better organisation, and, I suspect and arsenal of weapons they actually know how to use. That, and I strongly suspect they outnumber Antifa by at least 100:1.

[Ssnake]

You don't have to be competent to be a hazard to others. Often, the opposite is true. But even if I'd subscribe the notion that the vast majority were to be considered pathetic and harmless (which I don't), assemble enough of them and you can still get a violent and dangerous mob. Add college professors with bike locks, and severe injuries and possibly death become a quite real possibility.

Edited October 31, 2018 by Ssnake