The Insane Rationalizations, Bigotry And Hypocrisy Of The Right

[toysoldier]

Don´t make it more complicated than what it needs to be, Trump simply narrowed down the list of Vile Enemies to the one everybody can hate, MSM. The guy is truly a Wizard.

[Skywalkre]

Is it traditional for the press to be as vile to Trump as they have and then expect consideration in return?

When was this? Reporting about how much a PoS someone is doesn't make the reporting entity vile.

[Panzermann]

return of the pillories:

 

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/11/turning-point-usa-launches-professor-watchlist.html

[Ivanhoe]

If only.

 

College administrations have kept watchlists of conservative students and student groups for years. I've heard that turnabout is fair play.

[Mr King]

When was this? Reporting about how much a PoS someone is doesn't make the reporting entity vile.

 

 

 

 

Ah yes, the ever altruistic unbiased press of fairy tale land. It is not like their egregious behavior played a large part in unwittingly helping put a shitty candidate like Donald Trump in the White House.

[Paul G.]

 

 

They didn't have any real power.

 

You're just one fucking leftist bullshit trope after another.

Ok please by all means detail your position.

[Paul G.]

From Ace of Spades...

 

"In July of 2016, BronyCon, the annual convention for infantilized adults who love all things related to the children's TV show My Little Pony, drew 7600 attendees to the Baltimore Convention Center. NPI's convention last week in DC drew 200 assholes plus Tila Tequila. Any "movement" that draws 38 times fewer people than one dedicated to "adults" who dress up like cartoon horses ain't shit."

The editor of Cosplay magazine is not the Strategy Advisor to the President elect.

[Paul G.]

So just so I get this straight. As conservatives you are OK with Steve Bannon being the what is perhaps the third most important person in the WH.

[sunday]

Conservatives hate the Alt-Right. And Alt-Right despises Conservatives.

Alt-Righters talk about Conservatives that did not manage to conserve anything, despite some majorities in the Legislative, thus the Cuckservative moniker.

[EchoFiveMike]

False friends and hapless incompetents.

 

If you can't even conserve the women's bathroom, fuck off and die already, worthless pussies. S/F....Ken M

[Paul G.]

You guys are talking about the tribes. I'm referring to the ideology. I think the ideology and tactics adopted by the alt right hurt the conservative ideology and will help the Democrats in the long run.

[sunday]

As I see it, Conservatives (most of them "in name only") utterly destroyed the Conservative ideology. The Alt-Right only extended the death certificate.

Edited November 26, 2016 by sunday

[Marek Tucan]

I would say one problem in the US is (on both sides of the aisle) conflating economical principles and social principles. Where in Europe you would generally have a typical Christian Democratic party and a Liberal party taking space on the right of the specter, one covering the economy first, one going more for the social coservative point, in US you have both conflated in one. That also mean they keep fighting quite pointless battles (pardon me, but two gays getting a certified cohabitation aka marriage does not threaten even the "traditional family" ) - which moreover present the party as way too interested in meddling in private life. Which then means that for one, it makes it way too easy to distract the message.

 

 

The so called alt-right is really more an internet trolling association - not really much to worry about, apart from again giving additional ammunition.

[Ivanhoe]

I would say one problem in the US is (on both sides of the aisle) conflating economical principles and social principles. Where in Europe you would generally have a typical Christian Democratic party and a Liberal party taking space on the right of the specter, one covering the economy first, one going more for the social coservative point, in US you have both conflated in one. That also mean they keep fighting quite pointless battles (pardon me, but two gays getting a certified cohabitation aka marriage does not threaten even the "traditional family" ) - which moreover present the party as way too interested in meddling in private life. Which then means that for one, it makes it way too easy to distract the message.

A very large part of the current conservative policysphere interest in social stuff is in reaction to the left's use of public institutions for cultural warfare.

[EchoFiveMike]

You guys are talking about the tribes. I'm referring to the ideology. I think the ideology and tactics adopted by the alt right hurt the conservative ideology and will help the Democrats in the long run.

Ideology is for mono-ethnic nations, not multicultural empires. In empires, everybody votes their ethnicity, which invariably turns into a merciless dogfight of all against all. Always has been, always will be.

 

You ignorant asses traded the greatest nation in history for a mess of pottage. S/F....Ken M

[Skywalkre]

 

When was this? Reporting about how much a PoS someone is doesn't make the reporting entity vile.

 

 

 

 

Ah yes, the ever altruistic unbiased press of fairy tale land. It is not like their egregious behavior played a large part in unwittingly helping put a shitty candidate like Donald Trump in the White House.

 

And what was this egregious behavior that caused a large number of supposed Hillary voters to stay home and give the election to Trump? (Still waiting to here what this vile behavior was from rmgill but I'm not holding my breath.)

[Mr King]

And what was this egregious behavior that caused a large number of supposed Hillary voters to stay home and give the election to Trump? (Still waiting to here what this vile behavior was from rmgill but I'm not holding my breath.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are not Hillary voters unless you know....they actually vote for her.

 

[Skywalkre]

 

And what was this egregious behavior that caused a large number of supposed Hillary voters to stay home and give the election to Trump? (Still waiting to here what this vile behavior was from rmgill but I'm not holding my breath.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are not Hillary voters unless you know....they actually vote for her.

 

 

We can't make basic deductions from polling, voter turnout, actual voting results, etc... but some on here like you can apparently read the minds of what other posters or world leaders are truly thinking/doing? Interesting...

 

So, anywho, back to the question... how did six NYT reporters colluding with the Hillary campaign play a large part in giving the election to Trump?

[Mr King]

We can't make basic deductions from polling, voter turnout, actual voting results, etc... but some on here like you can apparently read the minds of what other posters or world leaders are truly thinking/doing? Interesting...

 

 

 

So, anywho, back to the question... how did six NYT reporters colluding with the Hillary campaign play a large part in giving the election to Trump?

 

 

I see this concept is hard for you to grasp, and it is not surprising, but you're not a voter for anyone unless you actually vote for someone. I can't think of any simpler way to put it for you.

 

If you can't understand what constitutes an actual voter, I don't know how I am going to explain to you the political optics of the revelation by Wikileaks that the mainstream press was heavily colluding with Hillary Clinton and her campaign against Donald Trump. Or the political optics of anything else Wikileaks revealed that played a role in this election.

[rmgill]

The resultant narrative is part of the vile behavior. Trump is going to put gays in the death camps narrative. Trump hates women narrative. He's never left one to die in a ditch, but he's the worse thing to happen to women since Adam and Eve had their little ejection from that garden.

 

If you don't see the vile treatment in the difference of reporting by the media, you never will.

[Paul G.]

Interesting that the ultimate evil to the Trumpstars is the MSM. Please link to a MSM story that claims Trump is going to put gays on camps.

[Marek Tucan]

A very large part of the current conservative policysphere interest in social stuff is in reaction to the left's use of public institutions for cultural warfare.

A thing Left is able to do because the conservatives tend to make stands on issus that are not really conserving anything, rather the opposite. If nothing else, it allows the Democrats to clearly define "battle lines" and the conservatives then self-define them so that they look like the less tolerant. Which in turn easily pushes more liberal (in the real sense, not in the distorted Murican terminology sense ) voters away, as they may be unwilling to combine fiscal policies with a lot of views they may not like. And since the more vocal positions are likely to be more extreme, the Conservatives (at least in US) are slipping into a vicious spiral. And if the treand of Democrats winning popular vote continues, even if losing here and there in EC, then with time it will become not sustainable. So... The conservatives should have a deep think about what is worth conserving and what not.

 

Heck, a ton of by now traditionaly Democrat speaking points are not really partisan - or should not be. Pollution control in cities for example is something that is not really Left / Right (or should not be) - pollution increases health impact, if anything else, thus decreasing productivity etc. Ramming it into your program instead of instinctive bristling against anything ecological as Left kulturkampf plotcould pretty easily elliminate a big talking point of the opposition. Heck, same goes for healthcare or social system. In Germany the first state social systems were set up by Bismarck simply because they were good for business.

 

(And if you go "People who would care about these things vote Democrats anyway... Get ready that the downwards spiral will continue).

[Paul G.]

One of the main reasons I was a Republican back in the 90s as due to the pro military vs anti military stance. After 9-11-01 the distinction between the parties narrowed to non-existent and changed into a Nation building vs non stance. The evangelical hijacking of the Republicans resulted in my independent status. In college the head of our conservative club argued that the earth was 6,000 years old and the Bible fully accounted for dinosaurs. My wife is from a country where abortion is illegal and there was no distinction between church and state. The fiscal conservative issue is still valid, but it seems the conservative movement has lost focus.

[Mike Steele]

THIS JUST IN: Fidel Castro is now a registered DemocRAT voter in Chicago.

[Mr King]

The resultant narrative is part of the vile behavior. Trump is going to put gays in the death camps narrative. Trump hates women narrative. He's never left one to die in a ditch, but he's the worse thing to happen to women since Adam and Eve had their little ejection from that garden.

 

If you don't see the vile treatment in the difference of reporting by the media, you never will.

 

Not only the vile treatment of Trump, but of anyone who might be his supporters too.

 

Canadian, but it"s an echo of everything being said by US media

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYARz4t_Mvk