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So the argument already is Clinton is no better than Bush.................

It goes back to Reagan at least and I bet other presidents have "lost" their quick notes and letters as well.

 

All breaking the law.As nit legal said, all to be held to the same standard. Doesn't matter if red blue R, D whatever. That congress made the law to put the letters and emails into the archive has been done so for good reasons. To.document history and have an honest account what happened. Of course a POTUS leaving office wants to paint his time in the best colours.

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So the argument already is Clinton is no better than Bush.................

Yes, it's part of the "everybody does it" smoke screen they've been trying to sell for months now.

They try to use it as such.

 

But as already said, Bush sr., jr. Clinton should all be held accountable for withholding messages from the official archives. Well Reagan cannot be held accountable anymore. I would not be surprised if Carter also "forgot" to hand over classified material.

 

 

Similar here in Germany where a really bad habit has developed that former chancellors just keep files at home or private archive after having left office. :angry2:

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Clintons email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House lost 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in Americas recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.

http://europe.newsweek.com/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373?rm=eu

 

 

Can a former POTUS be impeached? 22 million. :blink:

 

 

Hard to take an article seriously when it contains such breathless partisan hype (what kind of idiot would declare OIF as disastrous? A few minutes on Google will provide countless examples of real disaster...).

 

Also, the article claims that emails lost from a server will live forever on the sender's and recipient's computers. What a moron. Every organization with a very basic data management process will wipe drives when the computer is re-purposed or retired. Even my knuckleheaded employer reformats and reimages desktops and laptops after a staff change, even though we use folder redirection and required storage on a share folder on the server.

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oops:

 

Clintons email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House lost 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in Americas recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.

http://europe.newsweek.com/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373?rm=eu

 

 

Can a former POTUS be impeached? 22 million. :blink:

 

 

Hard to take an article seriously when it contains such breathless partisan hype (what kind of idiot would declare OIF as disastrous? A few minutes on Google will provide countless examples of real disaster...).

 

Also, the article claims that emails lost from a server will live forever on the sender's and recipient's computers. What a moron. Every organization with a very basic data management process will wipe drives when the computer is re-purposed or retired. Even my knuckleheaded employer reformats and reimages desktops and laptops after a staff change, even though we use folder redirection and required storage on a share folder on the server.

 

 

If they are losing data so easily, I'm not sure it's safe to assume they are doing sufficient wipes and re-writes to ensure the data remains irrecoverable.

 

Forensic folks were blabbing about how corporate data routinely is recoverable on bulk-purchased used HDDs.

 

I strap mine with HE and send them to Valhalla. Of course....I also use Dropbox :wacko:

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oops:

 

 

Clintons email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House lost 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in Americas recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.

 

http://europe.newsweek.com/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373?rm=eu

Can a former POTUS be impeached? 22 million. :blink:

Hard to take an article seriously when it contains such breathless partisan hype (what kind of idiot would declare OIF as disastrous? A few minutes on Google will provide countless examples of real disaster...).

 

Also, the article claims that emails lost from a server will live forever on the sender's and recipient's computers. What a moron. Every organization with a very basic data management process will wipe drives when the computer is re-purposed or retired. Even my knuckleheaded employer reformats and reimages desktops and laptops after a staff change, even though we use folder redirection and required storage on a share folder on the server.

If they are losing data so easily, I'm not sure it's safe to assume they are doing sufficient wipes and re-writes to ensure the data remains irrecoverable.

 

Forensic folks were blabbing about how corporate data routinely is recoverable on bulk-purchased used HDDs.

 

I strap mine with HE and send them to Valhalla. Of course....I also use Dropbox :wacko:

I work for a office equipment repair company and only a very few companies will not let damaged or used hard drive leave their site. The Canadian government is not one of them. The company I work for does have a policy that does not let you reuse HDs from another machine and any that are used are returned for refurbishment and if you wanted to destroy them however as long as they have a shell they will not charge you for it. The policy is also not a very old one due to some potentially expensive legal issues that occurred. Edited by Wobbly Head
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If they are losing data so easily, I'm not sure it's safe to assume they are doing sufficient wipes and re-writes to ensure the data remains irrecoverable.

 

Most data are lost because of a compromise in an active, online database (i.e. Anthem), or because of theft of a laptop.

 

Forensic folks were blabbing about how corporate data routinely is recoverable on bulk-purchased used HDDs.

Most likely because there is no disposal procedure in place. Same thing happens with paper medical records. Not uncommon for boxes of old records at a small provider to be tossed in the dumpster by some medical assistant/summer hire.

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If a disk is out of an array, good luck getting any data off of the disk if it's by itself.

A friend was relating how his company's legal department had a case crop up where they wanted data off an array that had been migrated physically (and the disks removed to make it lighter, the disks were not returned to their original locations...). He's explained that, sure the data is theoretically there but it's never going to be recoverable..The other law firm want's to hire a data recovery firm to recover the data....


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Forensic folks were blabbing about how corporate data routinely is recoverable on bulk-purchased used HDDs.

Most likely because there is no disposal procedure in place. Same thing happens with paper medical records. Not uncommon for boxes of old records at a small provider to be tossed in the dumpster by some medical assistant/summer hire.

 

 

You just made my HIPAA gland flare up.

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Welcome to my world, though FERPA rather than HIPAA.

 

Coming from the engineering/science world, my current job has been a real eye-opener on how folks with executive titles and pay in the "outside world" cannot manage even to the level of the average assistant night manager at Burger King. One of the copy rooms is where a majority of student records are printed out, not only financials but sometimes tax returns. Stuff prints out and is just left on a table, and the door is left ajar much of the time because the moneychangers in the temple are too lazy to punch the code in.

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Yeah, too convenient. It won't surprise me a smidgen if Wikileaks turns up a connection between Dems and Spencer, particularly a financial one.

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/442404/awful-lot-media-coverage-about-200-losers-getting-together

 

It is not that hard to gather a couple dozen or couple hundred people together for just about any idea or concept, no matter how obscure or outlandish. About 80 Abraham and Mary Todd Lincoln presenters – don’t call them “impersonators!” – gathered for their convention in Vandalia, Illinois. The white nationalists couldn’t gather as big a crowd as the 300 mermaids and mermen at “MerFest” in Cary, North Carolina last year. Of course, all of these gatherings shrink in comparison to “BronyCon”; about 7,000 grown adults attended the last convention for My Little Pony fans. (You may find that a completely different sign of the Apocalypse.) Yet from the headlines, you would think that this was some sort of burgeoning mass movement, marching through the streets and taking over the nation’s capital.
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200 in DC.

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441319/donald-trump-alt-right-internet-abuse-never-trump-movement

 

 

This article was before they got "their man" in the WH as Trump's Strategy Advisor.

 

So you're claiming that Steve Bannon and Breitbart approve of and explicitly encourage that kind of internet troll? Got proof?

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200 in DC.

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441319/donald-trump-alt-right-internet-abuse-never-trump-movement

 

 

This article was before they got "their man" in the WH as Trump's Strategy Advisor.

So you're claiming that Steve Bannon and Breitbart approve of and explicitly encourage that kind of internet troll? Got proof?

Proof. Yes i have a micro cassette recording smuggled out of Bannon's boudoir. OR you can do some research yourself like I did.

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I never knew that Paul could make so much from so little..... :angry:

 

So little? If Steve Bannon has been quoted as stating "Breitbart is the home of the alt right" and "Richard Spencer is the alt right's leading intellectual" and Milo states that the alt right are the online trolls attacking "cuckservatives", and that while not all alt right are white nationalists, the alt right movement started as white nationalists (not my opinion) Its not hard to come to the conclusion that Bannon has at the very least courted the alt right, and he is in the fucking White House.

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I never knew that Paul could make so much from so little..... :angry:

 

So little? If Steve Bannon has been quoted as stating "Breitbart is the home of the alt right" and "Richard Spencer is the alt right's leading intellectual" and Milo states that the alt right are the online trolls attacking "cuckservatives", and that while not all alt right are white nationalists, the alt right movement started as white nationalists (not my opinion) Its not hard to come to the conclusion that Bannon has at the very least courted the alt right, and he is in the fucking White House.

 

Well I didn't even know who Bannon was until you(and the MSM) started making an issue out of him. I know you think of TN a den of alt-right (wtf is alt-right anyway?) Maybe you should take a couple a deep breaths and relax, and quit worrying about the Pres Elect and his staff.

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