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The article that insinuates a correlation between the sanctuary status of SF and the crime rate even acknowledges that the data cannot claim to support the premise (simply because no effort has been made to prove causation), but then ends on a rather fatuous note that tells people that they should use the data anyway to confirm their own expectations.

 

As a piece of analysis, it's appalling. How about finding other sanctuary cities and looking at their crime rates? How about looking at convictions and the demographics associated with the crimes committed to see a change? Not important, it seems, because the message that the author wanted to deliver has been received by those with a stunning case of confirmation bias.

 

Sunday, for all your disagreements with JL on other subjects, I generally respect your ability to use your engineering head when reading rubbish like that.

 

And please note, I have no idea whether the status of SF as a sanctuary city has any impact on the crime rate there. I've no skin in the game, so I don't need to prove it either way. All I can say is that article is bad science.

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The article that insinuates a correlation between the sanctuary status of SF and the crime rate even acknowledges that the data cannot claim to support the premise (simply because no effort has been made to prove causation), but then ends on a rather fatuous note that tells people that they should use the data anyway to confirm their own expectations.

 

As a piece of analysis, it's appalling. How about finding other sanctuary cities and looking at their crime rates? How about looking at convictions and the demographics associated with the crimes committed to see a change? Not important, it seems, because the message that the author wanted to deliver has been received by those with a stunning case of confirmation bias.

 

Sunday, for all your disagreements with JL on other subjects, I generally respect your ability to use your engineering head when reading rubbish like that.

 

And please note, I have no idea whether the status of SF as a sanctuary city has any impact on the crime rate there. I've no skin in the game, so I don't need to prove it either way. All I can say is that article is bad science.

Suffice to say that three of the most vicious crimes in SF were perpetrated by members of MS-13 a central american gang. I think all three of the perps were illegals & at one point all three had the chance to be deported but were allowed to stay 'because'...

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Supporting quote? Even the founding fathers disagreed on key facts (like big vs small government) Hence the system they set up was a COMPROMISE. One can argue every aspect of the system they constructed has evolved over time. I think one thing they would have agreed unanimously is that the Justices should not be subject to elections.

just stumbled on this:

 

Americas Fragile Constitution

The Founders misread history and established a dysfunctional system of government. A case for a

little less reverence.

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/10/our-fragile-constitution/403237/?single_page=true

 

makes some interesting points that the much revered "checks and balances" lead to grid lock

 

This article lost me here "Eric Nelson, a political theorist at Harvard" What RO11 wrote. The Founding Fathers wanted gridlock. Let the government fight against itself and not against the people.

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Well, Louisiana is (completely) broke, and a special legislative session has opened by our new Democrat governor to try to fill in the $900 million hole to keep everything going until June, then the $2 billion hole for next fiscal year. Our new governor, John Bel Edwards (You know, the guy who won by being Not David Vitter) came on TV this past week and said Louisiana needs to raise taxes or else LSU will close and there will be no LSU football next year.

 

While the Democrats' new heartthrob was making a doofus of himself on state TV, only to be ripped to shreds immediately after by our state treasurer (Who [unfortunately]* will be our new senator to take over for David Vitter), the generally conservative state of Louisiana literally lost their minds and took out their knives and went after the wrong guy for this mess the state is in. There's recall petitions out for Edwards already, and even some death threats, despite him being on the job for a month. I don't like him one bit because he reeks of a puppet being told what to do by the DNC (His main platform plank was that he wasn't David Vitter, remember?), but blame for this fiscal disaster isn't in his lap--he just walked into it.

 

Whose fault is it then? How about the GOP's old golden boy Bobby Jindal and the GOP-dominated legislature (They have over 80% of the Senate seats, for example) who prided themselves about the job they did eviscerating corporate taxes (but not taxes aimed at small businesses) to the point that Louisiana is pretty much the most business-friendly state in the US, allowing companies to set up shop here, hire a couple of people to meet the tax break requirements, and enjoy the tax breaks without actually benefiting the state economy. The GOP also beat their chest over cutting public spending, but it was essentially all in low-hanging fruit like higher education (Louisiana divested itself from higher education more than any other state in the past decade) without actually making beneficial cuts (The state has 14 4-year public universities for 4 million people, the majority of whom have under 5,000 students. The state could literally close 2/3 of them and be much better off. Instead, they froze faculty salaries, allowed more administration to be hired, and made faculty buy their own office supplies.) and not in the big ticket items like social spending or the size of the government itself.

 

So essentially over the past 8 years Louisiana simultaneously slashed its revenue to the bone and kinda cut its spending, turning a $200 million surplus into a $2 billion deficit. And the same mouthbreathing idiots who keep on electing this bunch and refuse to keep them accountable are angry and want to recall the governor because he threatened their college football team with an empty threat, since LSU football is self-funded and is actually giving $7 million a year back to the university to help with finances.

 

*Unfortunate because he does an extremely good job and fought most of Jindal's stupid plans and had been saying the state would be in trouble.

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rise rise oh long dead thread

 


 

 

https://www.twitter.com/clmazin/status/720259227067920385

 

Craig Mazin

@ clmazin

Ted Cruz thinks people don't have a right to "stimulate their genitals." I was his college roommate.

This would be a new belief of his.

07:35 - 13. Apr. 2016

a classic ^_^ Edited by Panzermann
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What an odd way to smear someone.

 

Take a decision by a group to challenge an existing law and then claim that because the legal team charged with defending that law is run by Ted Cruz, he must therefore have a personal opinion supporting that law.Was he not simply doing his job at the time?

 

Maybe he does agree with the idea that a law brought into statute by an elected body shouldn't just be thrown under the bus because someone else doesn't like it. Even if he did disagree with the law, his job wouldn't have been to just tear it up - I'm sure that the Texas legislature would have taken a fairly dim view of that.

 

I suppose it doesn't matter, it's a cheap shot from some dumb guy on the internet that shows the continuing descent of politics into the three mile deep mine shaft excavated down through the bottom of the barrel.

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How Government Cronies Redefined the Catfish An industry clamored for more regulation—because it had a financial interest in doing so.

 

 

 

For years, domestic catfish producers were getting hammered by competition coming from China and Vietnam. Those same catfish farmers understood that unlike the FDA inspection program, the USDA inspection program has a separate "equivalency" test for imports, which adds a layer of regulations only on imports and could take countries years to implement. In the meantime, they'd be completely barred from the U.S. market. Domestic catfish farmers love that. Also, 94 percent of U.S. farm-raised catfish is raised in Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi, hence the interest of Sen. Cochran to push this misguided regulation on catfish.

http://reason.com/archives/2016/06/30/how-government-cronies-redefined-the-cat

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Nope, and the excuses raised for protectionism are essentially the same, although the emphasis for one side is "protecting jobs" and for the other side it's "protecting companies' profits".

 

Either way, the truth of the matter is that it "promotes an inefficient market", and that's bad.

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I rather gather that both sides make arguments of protecting jobs with back room concerns of protecting corporate profits or union bosses.

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I rather gather that both sides make arguments of protecting jobs with back room concerns of protecting corporate profits or union bosses.

 

That's my take on it, too. Lip service to jobs for the "working man" but somehow always accidentally in the best interests of the politically active wealthy.

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Hence Hillary throwing the Mine Unions under the bus. One wonders if Joe Manchin who's district covers a lot of coal country will survive this...

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Hence Hillary throwing the Mine Unions under the bus. One wonders if Joe Manchin who's district covers a lot of coal country will survive this...

 

Being perfect proof that there is no such thing as a moderate Democrat, he doesn't deserve to.

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Swiss national councillor Andreas Glarner (SVP, conservative) has proposed to export weapons without logos in the future, so that if a crate of handgrenades or other weapons that are "swissmade" are captured by some undesireable bad guys it does not cast a bad light back at clean peaceful Switzerland.

 

Inducement for this was a convicted derka derka jihadi who had a hand grenade made in switzerland in his luggage.

 

http://bazonline.ch/schweiz/standard/waffen-kuenftig-ohne-logo-ins-ausland-liefern/story/21951235

 

 

Genius! :lol:

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Swiss national councillor Andreas Glarner (SVP, conservative) has proposed to export weapons without logos in the future, so that if a crate of handgrenades or other weapons that are "swissmade" are captured by some undesireable bad guys it does not cast a bad light back at clean peaceful Switzerland.

 

Inducement for this was a convicted derka derka jihadi who had a hand grenade made in switzerland in his luggage.

 

http://bazonline.ch/schweiz/standard/waffen-kuenftig-ohne-logo-ins-ausland-liefern/story/21951235

 

 

Genius! :lol:

 

What if they put smily faces on them? Or even better...

 

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oops:

 

Clintons email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House lost 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in Americas recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.

http://europe.newsweek.com/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373?rm=eu

 

 

Can a former POTUS be impeached? 22 million. :blink:

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oops:

 

Clintons email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House lost 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in Americas recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.

http://europe.newsweek.com/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373?rm=eu

 

 

Can a former POTUS be impeached? 22 million. :blink:

 

I would assume so and he should if the investigation holds up. I don't want a situation where one side gets unwavering support and the other has to be on its toes, I want every politician of any party to lay awake at nights fearing that the mob is coming for them. One rule for every single politician: follow the rules or we'll ruin you. Sadly, I have more of a chance of winning a trillion dollars and having the 1950's era Sophia Loren show up to have sex with me. . .

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from the same article:

 

Most troubling, researchers found a suspicious pattern in the White House email system blackouts, including periods when there were no emails available from the office of Vice President Dick Cheney. That the vice presidents office, widely characterized as the most powerful vice president in history, should have no archived emails in its accounts for scores of days-especially days when there was discussion of whether to invade Iraq-beggared the imagination, says Thomas Blanton, director of the Washington-based National Security Archive. The NSA (not to be confused with the National Security Agency, the federal surveillance organization) is a nonprofit devoted to obtaining and declassifying national security documents and is one of the key players in the effort to recover the supposedly lost Bush White House emails.

Can a Vice POTUS be impeached?

 

 

The Reagan and Bush senior and Clinton administrations have "lost" emails, too. Looks to become a tradition. <_<

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