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All vehicles that were developed originally on Soviet Union are incredibly cramped inside, ergonomics are poor if any exist. On the other hand newly designed vehicles in Poland or purchased from our NATO allies are very comfortable.

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APC Rosomak again, also very comfortable...

 

To make it clear Rosomak's real name is AMV and it is designed by Patria from Finland. Some of AMV's are license produced in Poland in factory that was jointly established with Finnish company Patria . So AMV is not bought from NATO country, but from Finland. AMV is not designed in NATO country, but in Finland...

 

 

Interesting thing I noticed is that gunner and commander controls for the Hitfist-30P turret and Mk44 autocannon, are very similiar in concept of working mechanism to Challenger 2's turret controls. These are not joysticks that can move, there are small control knobs on them so you actually control turret traverse and main armament elevation by using thumbs.

 

It is the same thing in many AFV controls - especially in TC position (Leo 2, Challenger 2...). When you have relatively cramped space and you are going fast in rough terrain the traditional joystick is very hard to maneuver accurately. In CV90 TC's all-moving joystick makes it harder to TC maneuver the turret on the move when you compare it to TC job with thumb drive of Leo 2. Maybe it is just another "movie myth" that all military vehicles have similar joysticks than your home PC? :)

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To make it clear Rosomak's real name is AMV and it is designed by Patria from Finland. Some of AMV's are license produced in Poland in factory that was jointly established with Finnish company Patria . So AMV is not bought from NATO country, but from Finland. AMV is not designed in NATO country, but in Finland...

 

Yeah, I forgot to mention Finland sorry.

 

However technically speaking, Rosomak is not the same as AMV, our engineers made extensive modification to which our manufacturer AMZ have rights, not Patria. There is AFAIK some deal where AMZ agreed that Patria will have a rights to use at least some modifications our engineers developed.

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Well, article is definetely correct.

 

As a side note, USA and UK will send two battalion sized battle groups with M1A2SEPv2 and Challenger 2 tanks, I hope that there will be some kind of open day for civilians to visits and I will have opportunity to get inside these monsters just as recently I had opportunity to get inside Leopard 2. :D

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New episodes of the documentary series "Nasza Armia" (Our Army) with some footage from Army Day parade and other stuff.

http://vod.tvp.pl/audycje/publicystyka/naszaarmiapl/wideo/16082014/16206089
http://vod.tvp.pl/audycje/publicystyka/naszaarmiapl/wideo/23082014/16296084

 

It's a pity that there is no english translation, because there is a lot of important talk from our MoD at the end of first episde I linked here.

 

In the second episode there is actually more footage from the parade itself. There is also interesting material from, hmmm how to translate it to english, well it's a run for military enthusiasts which have optional part for volunteers that simulates SERE training, it's interesting aspect how even civilians can participate in such experience and learn something from it, good intiative of our military IMHO.

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It was most likely CAWA-2 composite armor developed by WITU, or some sollution based on it. For 1990's it was a good armor, a test variant for a T-72 class tank, for it's glacis to be more precise, showed potential to achieve protection against APFSDS ammunition with penetration of 500-550mm RHA @2000m.

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However technically speaking, Rosomak is not the same as AMV, our engineers made extensive modification to which our manufacturer AMZ have rights, not Patria. There is AFAIK some deal where AMZ agreed that Patria will have a rights to use at least some modifications our engineers developed.

 

I do disagree with you on this mater. Immaterial Right of AMV incl. Rosomak are Patria's. Why would Poland otherways be paying license fees to Patria... If a door hinge or other insignificant part of vehicle is designed in Poland and some random Polish company owns IM-rights to it so what? Rosomak is just another version on Patria developed vehicle! More importantly it is part of concept of Armoured Modular Vehicle that allows those Polish national modifications to be made without need of changing base vehicle.

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Rosomak APC with ZSSW-30 unmanned turret, it's still early technology demonstrator, the same turret design will be installed on our new IFV that is in development.

 

Turret is armed with 30mm Mk44 automatic cannon, 7,62mm coaxial machine gun and Spike-LR ATGM's, additional RCWS also can be eventually installed, armed with 7,62mm machine gun, 12,7mm machine gun or 40mm GMG.

 

http://dziennikzbrojny.pl/aktualnosci/news,1,7839,aktualnosci-z-polski,mspo14-polska-wieza-zssw-30-dla-wozow-bojowych

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http://www.polska-zbrojna.pl/home/articleshow/13967?t=Abramsy-strzelaja-na-drawskim-poligonie

US Army armor company in Poland. In general US Army currently have 2 armor battalions in Europe, first battalion is in Germany, second battalion is spread in Poland (1x company) and baltic states (2 or 3 companies, one company in each state).

 

Note: Americans will train with 7th Coast Defence Brigade, which uses mostly older vehicles like BMP-1 seen on photos.

 

Also we know what happens with our Leopard 2 tanks modernization. Modernization starts in 2015, first 10 tanks will be modernized in Germany, rest in Poland. The plan is to modernize all tanks to Leopard 2PL standard, be it A4 or A5 variants. So hopefully soon we will see first modernized tank, and we will now finally how this new Leo2 variant will look like. :)

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http://www.polska-zbrojna.pl/home/articleshow/13967?t=Abramsy-strzelaja-na-drawskim-poligonie

 

US Army armor company in Poland. In general US Army currently have 2 armor battalions in Europe, first battalion is in Germany, second battalion is spread in Poland (1x company) and baltic states (2 or 3 companies, one company in each state).

 

USAREUR has 2nd Battalion/ 8th Cavalry regiment/ 1st Brigade Combat Team /1st Cavalry Division deployed in Europe under OP ATLANTIC RESOLVE. It is standard CA BN of an HBCT that is composed of HHC, 2x TK CO and 2x MECH INF CO. One TK CO is stationed now in Poland, one TK CO Latvia, One MECH INF Co is in Lithuania and one MECH INF CO is in Estonia. Don't remember seeing mentioned where HHC will be stationed but AFAIK it is now in Latvia where is bigger exercises between Baltic states, Norway (parts of The Telemark BN) and US.

 

http://www.eur.army.mil/landforceassurance/

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