Polish Armoured Vehicles And Their Modernizations.

[Damian]

28 minutes ago, Markus Becker said:

Yes, someone mentioned that wrt the adoption of the 84mm Carl Gustav. 

My point was that Poland won't have to use it's tanks in anger as long as Ukraine doesn't fall. So there's no loss in parting with the least capable ones right away. 

This is the idea. As soon as new 4x4 amphibious recce APC Kleszcz will start to be delivered to the Army, more and more BRDM-2's will probably go to Ukraine.

24 minutes ago, Perun said:

Are those a rubber tracks

Yes, Borsuk is tested with conventional double pin steel tracks with replaceable rubber pads and new CRT (Composite Rubber Tracks). Based on tests results Army will decide which tracks they preffer.

Here is a video of prototype with conventional steel tracks.
 

And one more video showing Homar-K MLRS.

And Baobab-K Scattered Mine Laying System.

 

Edited March 21 by Damian

[Damian]

Nice photo from 1st Armored Brigade.

[sunday]

1 hour ago, Damian said:

Nice photo from 1st Armored Brigade.

Looks a bit like a modernized Windows XP default wallpaper. I thought some armor would make it better:

Edited March 22 by sunday

[urbanoid]

2 minutes ago, sunday said:

Looks a bit like a modernized Windows XP default wallpaper. I thought some armor would make it better:

 

Windows XPL

[Markus Becker]

😊

[Damian]

As for BRDM-2 replacement, AMZ Kutno developed Bóbr-3 (Beaver-3) vehicle, that in the Army will be named Kleszcz (Tick).

Of course there are or will be other recce vehicles, like lightweight Żmija (Viper).

Aero.

KLTV named in Polish Army as Legwan.
 

Rosomak R1/R2 and Borsuk IFV based Żuk combat recon vehicle.

[Damian]

More M1A1FEP's had been delivered from WZM in Poznań to 1st Armored Brigade in Wesoła near Warsaw.

[Perun]

The Polish Armed Forces are now able to field a tank battalion equipped with the new K2 ‘Black Panther’ Main Battle Tank. This month saw further deliveries of the new tanks and has enabled the 16th Mechanized Division to begin integration of the tank unit in its structures.

https://www.overtdefense.com/2024/03/25/poland-now-with-a-battalion-of-k2-black-panther/

[Perun]

 

[Damian]

2 hours ago, Perun said:

The Polish Armed Forces are now able to field a tank battalion equipped with the new K2 ‘Black Panther’ Main Battle Tank. This month saw further deliveries of the new tanks and has enabled the 16th Mechanized Division to begin integration of the tank unit in its structures.

https://www.overtdefense.com/2024/03/25/poland-now-with-a-battalion-of-k2-black-panther/

Per curretn structures, right now tank battalion needs 58 tanks. So far we have 46 K2's so we are very close to form full tank battalion.

We also have 69 M1A1FEP's, this means we can form entire tank battalion and we still have 11 tanks left, this is 3 tanks short to form a full company.

However, General Staff is thinking about changing structures, so tank battalions will have 44 tanks, and that additional company will be a recce company with UAV's and UGV's. However right now these are just concepts.

[Perun]

4 hours ago, Damian said:

Per curretn structures, right now tank battalion needs 58 tanks. So far we have 46 K2's so we are very close to form full tank battalion.

We also have 69 M1A1FEP's, this means we can form entire tank battalion and we still have 11 tanks left, this is 3 tanks short to form a full company.

However, General Staff is thinking about changing structures, so tank battalions will have 44 tanks, and that additional company will be a recce company with UAV's and UGV's. However right now these are just concepts.

What would new oob look like

[Damian]

26 minutes ago, Perun said:

What would new oob look like

Unknown yet, and we won't know anytime soon. Exact OOB's that are now in concept phase are classified. But from what was publicly said, new battalion structure would be nearly identical, but instead of current 58 tanks which is battalion CO and XO tanks + 56 tanks in 4 tank companies, it would look like that.

Battalion CO and XO tanks and 3 tank companies with 14 tanks, and a recce company with UAV's and UGV's.

This means one tank company less. However these additional tank companies would allow to form additional tank battalions or create larger tank reserves.

[Markus Becker]

On 3/23/2024 at 11:33 AM, Damian said:

As for BRDM-2 replacement, AMZ Kutno developed Bóbr-3 (Beaver-3) vehicle, that in the Army will be named Kleszcz (Tick).

Of course there are or will be other recce vehicles, like lightweight Żmija (Viper).

Aero.

KLTV named in Polish Army as Legwan.
 

Rosomak R1/R2 and Borsuk IFV based Żuk combat recon vehicle.

 

I take that the BRDM-2 has been coming with improved electronics for some time. 

[Damian]

https://fb.watch/riHUXOJpDM/

1st Armored Brigade M1A1FEP's during Dragon 2024 excercises.

2 hours ago, Markus Becker said:

I take that the BRDM-2 has been coming with improved electronics for some time. 

Yeah, in general this new vehicle looks like BRDM-2 on steroids.

[Markus Becker]

I meant that the old vehicle(BRDM-2) had reasonably modern electronics inside already. They weren't mainly relying on the Mk.I eyeball and ears, weren't they?

[Damian]

5 hours ago, Markus Becker said:

I meant that the old vehicle(BRDM-2) had reasonably modern electronics inside already. They weren't mainly relying on the Mk.I eyeball and ears, weren't they?

Some BRDM-2's were upgraded to M96 and M97 Żbik (eng. European Wildcat) standard. M97 was more advanced new turret have day/night sight CDN-1, driver can use night vision device PNK-72, while commande have POD-72 vision system. PNK-72 and POD-72 were designed as upgrades for T-72 and PT-91 tanks BTW.

On turret of M97 you can also mount 9K111 Fagot ATGM launcher. Vehicle is also equipped with SSC-1A Obra LWR system with 81mm smoke granades dischargers.

Maine armament is 12,7mm NSVT or WKM-B heavy machine gun with coaxial 7,62mm PKT or UKM-2000.

Additional equipment were modern digital radios RRC9500, ZPD-2/4 APU, Thermo 90DW heater, INS UNZ-20, GPS, AAS-1 Tafios NBC threat detector, NBC protection system, it uses new engine IVECO Aifo 8040SRC generating 165 HP, and uses new transmission.

[Perun]

Polish defense leaders push ‘dronization’ of the armed forces

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2024/04/08/polish-defense-leaders-push-dronization-of-the-armed-forces/

[Damian]

PT-91's from 16th Mechanized Division in action.

[Damian]

For the first time in history, Polish tank crews from 1st Armored Brigade, 18th Mechanized Division will travel to USA, to participate in Sullivan Cup competition.

[Damian]

Tank crew from 1st. Armored Division is in US, and is preparing to participate in Sullivan Cup competition. We keep fingers crossed for them.

[Perun]

 WASHINGTON, April 24, 2024 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible
Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Poland of Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missiles - Extended
Range and related elements of logistics and program support for an estimated cost of $1.275 billion. The
Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible
sale today.
The Government of Poland has requested to buy three hundred sixty (360) Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided
Missile-Extended Range (AARGM-ER) All Up Rounds (AUR); eight (8) AGM-88G AARGM-ER Guidance
Sections (spares); and eight (8) AGM-88G AARGM-ER Control Sections (spares). Also included are Dummy
Air Training Missiles (DATM); missile containers, software; training; support equipment; spare and repair
parts; embedded Global Positioning System receiver, M-Code; publications and technical documentation;
transportation, U.S. Government and contractor engineering; technical and logistical support services; and other
related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated total cost is $1.275 billion.

https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/Press Release - Poland 24-37 CN.pdf

[Damian]

Rearming of 1st tank battalion armed with M1A1FEP's in 1st Armored Brigade is nearly complete, next step will be to rearm 1st tank battalion of the 19th Mechanized Brigade, both brigades function within 18th Mechanized Division.
Also if someone wants a cool graphic from 1st Armored Brigade as a screen wallpaper, here it is.



@Stuart Galbraith@Perun@sunday@Markus Becker@Manic Moran@Walter_Sobchak@R011@urbanoid@alejandro_@Laser Shark@bd1

Edited April 28 by Damian

[Perun]

Nice pics, thanks mate 🙂

[urbanoid]

58 minutes ago, Damian said:

Rearming of 1st tank battalion armed with M1A1FEP's in 1st Armored Brigade is nearly complete, next step will be to rearm 1st tank battalion of the 19th Mechanized Brigade, both brigades function within 18th Mechanized Brigade.
Also if someone wants a cool graphic from 1st Armored Brigade as a screen wallpaper, here it is.



@Stuart Galbraith@Perun@sunday@Markus Becker@Manic Moran@Walter_Sobchak@R011@urbanoid@alejandro_@Laser Shark@bd1

Division

[Markus Becker]

Glad to see some still got it! 👍🏻