Polish Armoured Vehicles And Their Modernizations.

[Damian]

15 minutes ago, Manic Moran said:

I note they're running 7.62s on the RWS. Think that's just for cheaper training, or are they not planning on using the .50cal at all?

If the latter, will they use 'em on the M1A1s? They're a little harder to put a 7.62 onto. Does Poland use the .50 cal on anything else?

It was explained to me it was just for training, we are buying both M240's and M2's for our M1A2SEPv3's and M1A1SA's.

Yes we use .50cal's. We either use various M2 variants here and there, and also we have our own .50 cal MG, the WKM-B, what is WKM-B? This is Polish modified NSVT for 12.7x99mm NATO ammo.

AMZ Tur with WKM-B.

Polish SOF HMMWV with M2 variant.

*Photos are my own.

Edited November 9, 2022 by Damian

[Damian]

Borsuk IFV during trails at 15th Mechanized Brigade.

So, few news. Borsuk is considered as modular tracked platform, new variants are being developed right now. Additional 4 prototypes are under construction. ZSSW-30 turret is further developed, right now development work os focused on integration of different ATGM's besides Spike LR1/LR2.

Trails should be completed next year, and also next year first agreement between MoD, PGZ and HSW should be signed for series production of Borsuk IFV.

[Damian]

Borsuk IFV interior, it's quiet roomy inside.

[bojan]

One benefit of the idiotic amphibious requirement is that it has to have enough internal volume so it actually floats.

Edited November 16, 2022 by bojan

[Damian]

1 hour ago, bojan said:

One benefit of the idiotic amphibious requirement is that it has to have enough internal volume so it actually floats.

Yeah, amphibious capability requirement is still controversial. Yet, Borsuk is designed with modular armor, so amphiious capability can be sacrificed for better armor. And spaced armor at front can protect against 30x165mm AP and APDS ammunition. I wonder what actually is placed in the front hull cavity used as spaced armor, fuel tank perhaps?

Edited November 16, 2022 by Damian

[bojan]

IMO not, as vehicle can not be nose heavy or it will go down while swimming, and engine + transmission is in the front. But we will see some day for sure, as as with everything else someone will leak data so model in his favorite game gets more accurate.

Edited November 16, 2022 by bojan

[Damian]

More of Borsuk IFV.

[alejandro_]

The Polish army's Abrams main battle tanks (MBTs) will be equipped with battle management hardware and software from Leonardo DRS and Systematic, Janes has learnt. The systems will also be fitted onto recovery and bridging vehicles.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/c4isr-command-tech/latest/leonardo-systematic-to-equip-polish-armoured-vehicles-with-c2-systems

[Damian]

Polish tank crews during their first LFAST with M1A2SEPv2's.

[Damian]

A longer video.

[Damian]

Video from Tumak-22 excercises.

[Damian]

So, there are still some T-72's used by Polish Army, not all were sent to Ukraine. Now the questions is, how many we really had?

Polish MoD really like to make everything a secret.

[shep854]

Manic Moran chimes in as well.

Edited November 28, 2022 by shep854

[Damian]

33 minutes ago, shep854 said:

Manic Moran chimes in as well.

And I was also mentioned.

Tommorow this is 29.11.2022 I will also participate in conference. I was invited by Republic of Korea Embessy in Poland to attend conference about military industry cooperation between Poland and Korea. So I might learn something more about K2PL.

Edited November 28, 2022 by Damian

[shep854]

1 hour ago, Damian said:

And I was also mentioned.

Tommorow this is 29.11.2022 I will also participate in conference. I was invited by Republic of Korea Embessy in Poland to attend conference about military industry cooperation between Poland and Korea. So I might learn something more about K2PL.

Cool!  What was the mention?

 

[Damian]

57 minutes ago, shep854 said:

Cool!  What was the mention?

 

Somewhere at 30min of video. It is the same what I wrote here at forums about tanks procurement.

[shep854]

6 hours ago, Damian said:

Somewhere at 30min of video. It is the same what I wrote here at forums about tanks procurement.

Found it at 31:27.  It's enlightening to recognize how many very knowledgeable individuals contribute to this hobbyist site. 

[Maro.kyo]

On 11/28/2022 at 4:49 PM, shep854 said:

Manic Moran chimes in as well.

There are quite a few errors regarding K-2 but that's to be expected, I guess.

[Huba]

First Korean AFVs arrived to Poland:

 

[Damian]

https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/Press Release - Poland 22-71 CN.pdf

Look at this! Look at these numbers! We buy M829A4, M829A3, M829A2, not to mention M1147. Jesus!

[Dawes]

Is this a new request or a previously announced one?

[Helmutkohl]

more pics via bemil

 

 

[PCallahan]

9 hours ago, Damian said:

https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/Press Release - Poland 22-71 CN.pdf

Look at this! Look at these numbers! We buy M829A4, M829A3, M829A2, not to mention M1147. Jesus!

Can that ammo (and damn, it is a lot...) be used in the K2s and Leo 2s?

[Damian]

7 hours ago, Dawes said:

Is this a new request or a previously announced one?

Previously announced.

19 minutes ago, PCallahan said:

Can that ammo (and damn, it is a lot...) be used in the K2s and Leo 2s?

Yes it can be, same caliber 120x570mm NATO.

[Damian]

https://www.gov.pl/web/obrona-narodowa/podpisanie-umowy-na-dodatkowe-116-abramsow-dla-wojska-polskiego

Tommorow Polish MoD will sign procurement contract for 116 M1A1FEP tanks and support equipment.