Staff Versus Knife

[lemd]

Since the born of MMA a lot of martial myths has been busted, why don't people replace some weapon competitions with a mixed weapon systems to see how it work?

[JTV_new]

Guy carrying a Kukri may get some attention...

 

Most likely... Not that I carry one with me - don't need to. Anyway, the way I see it, Kukris are probably about as effective as full size sword (with obvious exception of range), but still notably lighter and more compact. Kukri would be basically impossible for concealed carry and due to their weight would be impractical as utility knife, so in real words its usefullness would be limited to situations when firearms are not available and one would need an effective blade for open carry - not a likely situation.

[rmgill]

Utility knife, no, but still utility tool. I gave one of the Gurkha's at work a WWII Kukri (His back home had been stolen by Maoist rebels). He was of course pleased as punch AND was very clear to say he'd tried it out for clearing brush in his back yard and it stood up to the work quite well. He was VERY pleased with it's functionality.

[Typhoid Maxx]

This is written like a Training Manual

http://www.paladin-press.com/product/Advanced_Bowie_Techniques/Knife_and_sword_Fighting

 

"Sigh" Lt Applegate, later Colonel Rex Applegate, father of modern US forces post WWII knife fighting, was seconded to William E. Fairbairn and Eric A. Sykes in England during WWII Commando training (to observe and report). Want good stuff, most all available is online and public domain on Col. Applegate.

 

US Marine Corps 18 February 1999, MCRP 3-02B, Marine Corps Martial Arts, 2-69 to 2-72, is FAR better in a tighter package.

 

Online, free.

 

Paladin Press will get you killed, has Great Books by renowned artists NO HIGHER than James Gerard Richard Shortt http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/The_Baron_of_Castleshort

 

Git Sardaukar to laugh for a while.

 

"Training manuals" without the training are crap, anyway, but bad ones used by a group will help develop bad habits that produce fertilizer or pig feed.

[Typhoid Maxx]

Got a knife thing. Cut at 14 intentionally.

[Typhoid Maxx]

Utility knife, no, but still utility tool. I gave one of the Gurkha's at work a WWII Kukri (His back home had been stolen by Maoist rebels). He was of course pleased as punch AND was very clear to say he'd tried it out for clearing brush in his back yard and it stood up to the work quite well. He was VERY pleased with it's functionality.

 

Love the design, but knives scare me....with a Kukri (to which mil Gurkha's are switching to the utility design more than fighting) you HAVE to watch the cut control forward-back, because use it like a straight blade and let mind go into habit mode and you are looking at trouble.

Edited March 21, 2013 by Typhoid Maxx

[Typhoid Maxx]

As for "Col" Dwight McLemore, he has been taken apart by a MA verified to have....well, let the Wolf speak for itself.....

 

" I was taught by ex British Gurkha Officers and men who fought in WW2, exchanged techniques with the former head of the British Brigade of Gurkhas kukri training and the head of the Gurkha display team. I have also taught Gurkhas and the then close quarter combat and kukri instructor of the Nepal Army Para Commando. What I do is historically accurate and proven in War. I don't believe that Native Americans used the Tomahawk the way you show, and certainly the Bowie was not used in that way, they are modern variations and not historically accurate IMHO, which is fine, but should be promoted as such."

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOeB2yMU_q8

 

 

Dwight McLemore also....tries...to teach/promote/ell books and seminar...on...two sword-ed...fighting

 

Vids show he is shit, BTW.

 

Bowie fighting....the Bowie Bowie used...."Sandbar", period.

Edited March 21, 2013 by Typhoid Maxx

[Ivanhoe]

Love the design, but knives scare me....with a Kukri (to which mil Gurkha's are switching to the utility design more than fighting) you HAVE to watch the cut control forward-back, because use it like a straight blade and let mind go into habit mode and you are looking at trouble.

In recent years I have become interested in goloks and parangs. Most are too small for westerners, IMHO, but scaled up would be really practical for a lot of stuff (including lopping the heads off of zombies). For example;

 

http://www.knifecenter.com/item/CN25211HC/Condor-Tool-and-Knife-CTK252-11HC-Pack-Golok-Survival-Knife-11-inch-Carbon-Steel-Blade-Hardwood-Handles-Leather-Sheath

 

Grow this thing to a 14 inch blade, bump up the blade thickness by 1 or 2 /32", and you'd really have something. Needless to say, a little bit of a guard, and maybe a finger groove on the choil to improve ability of chipping/shaving cuts on wood. I think I'd shorten up the bevel on the tip; if you're poking something with this big of a blade, you're probably not lancing a water blister or doing eye surgery. More likely opening a soup can.

Edited March 21, 2013 by Ivanhoe
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[Typhoid Maxx]

uh....got one....hand version, no staff...stacked leather washers as grip....damn EVIL thing.

 

Break a guys skull with the blunt "end".

[Ivanhoe]

 

Be honest; English armies favored bills because they were hoping they could get the damned lager louts to do a little gardening.

 

I have a Fiskars brush hook which shapewise is clearly derived from English brush hooks, unfortunately hasn't enough mass to drive through the tougher brush species here. Works great on the flimsy fast-growing stuff.