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Where it is? (not in Russia - see car numper plates)/

 

 

I don't know. random pic from the interwebs Sorry.

 

edith has found this r/anime thread on reddit, but does not really say where: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/6pr2o6/spread_the_love/

 

 

 

 

 

Good idea of the russian government to stretch the duration of the fanid to promote tourism.

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An artifact from Major Putin's East German past.

 

German paper: Putin had East German Stasi identity card

 

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BERLIN (AP) — A German newspaper is reporting that an East German secret police identity card for Russian President Vladimir Putin, who was a KGB agent in Dresden in the 1980s, has been found in the Stasi archives.

 

The Bild daily on Tuesday printed a photo of the card issued to “Maj. Vladimir Putin,” signed and validated with stamps until the end of 1989. It said the document was found in the Dresden Stasi office’s files on “cadres and education.”

 

Konrad Felber, who heads the Dresden branch of the authority overseeing the Stasi archives, told Bild that the ID would have allowed Putin to enter and leave Stasi offices unhindered. He added that it would have made recruiting agents easier because Putin wouldn’t have had to tell anyone he worked for the KGB.

 

https://apnews.com/55e3a4a21b1b44e0b696936c30fa1fa5

 

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Konrad Felber, who heads the Dresden branch of the authority overseeing the Stasi archives, told Bild that the ID would have allowed Putin to enter and leave Stasi offices unhindered. He added that it would have made recruiting agents easier because Putin wouldn’t have had to tell anyone he worked for the KGB.

 

 

A guy with a russian accent tries to hire you for a spy job. Does not need a genius to combine for which agency he works for.

 

 

 

But really, this only shows how far reaching the STASI is to this day! They placed a sleeper in the Kremlin!!!11!

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An artifact from Major Putin's East German past.

 

German paper: Putin had East German Stasi identity card

 

https://apnews.com/55e3a4a21b1b44e0b696936c30fa1fa5

 

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What is actually strange in this story is they only found one ID for Putin, as most likely he was supposed to also have regular police ID, some kind of civilian documents, driving license etc. - lots of papers. May be they are still buried in archives.

I love this modest DDR papers style - reminding me about my childhood (and some DDR products tags still surviving in our houses almost three decades after DDR is gone).

Is it normal ID was supposed to be confirmed by stamp every quarter?

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Well, this was found in the preserved Stasi archives, which is the logical place for something that he would supposedly have had to turn in upon leaving the country. He might just have taken civilian documents with him. And yes, this was extended quarter-annually. "Bild" actually has an English text online about their little scoop (in typical breathless tabloid style).

 

As KGB spy in Dresden


Putin’s secret Stasi ID discovered

By Jürgen Helfricht

 

11.12.2018 - 15:16 Uhr

 

Dresden – 28 years after the end of the German Democratic Republic (GDR), the Stasi Records Agency (BStU) thought it knew all the secrets from the past. However, newly discovered documents reveal that the former KGB officer and present ruler of the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin (66), was a member of the infamous State Security Service until the fall of the Berlin wall!

Major Vladimir Putin, who was 33 at the time, received the ID on December 12, 1985 from the Ministry of State Security. The ID was renewed on a quaterly basis. It carried his signature and an official stamp and was valid until the end of 1989. The document was placed in a file at the former Stasi’s own department for Cadre and Training in Dresden.

 

Konrad Felber (65), Head of the Stasi Records Agency says: “Up to now, it was unknown that Putin who had worked as KGB agent in Dresden until 1990 was in possession of a Stasi ID. His name does not appear in the only file that lists all Soviet military personnel who had been given identity cards."

 

What has been known is that KGB spy Putin was working in the KGB villa at 4 Angelika Street, in Dresden, with other agents. His wife Ljudmila, who was 25 at the time (they are now divorced), came over with their daughter Marija in the autum of that year. They lived in a six-storey panel house at 101 Radeberger Street (678 square foot).

 

His second daughter Katerina was born in Dresden in 1986. Putin was a member of the fishing club, took trips with his Lada Shiguli and drank Radeberger beer in his favourite bar “Zum Thor”.

 

No one knows precisely the impact his work has had. One thing is certain however: he was recruiting German agents.

 

But what did he need a Stasi ID for?

 

Felber: “Agents can hide under a variety of covers. Because he had an ID, he was able to enter and leave the department without any issues whenever he pleased. Police officers were saluting him due the powerful badge. I’m sure, it made it also easier for him to recruit new agents, since he didn’t have to reveal that he works for the KGB.”

 

It is unclear, why Putin didn’t destroy his ID and instead returned it before he went back to Moscow at the beginning of 1990.

 

By the way, Putin still has fond memories of his time in Dresden. He speaks German to Chancellor Merkel and she still sends him sometimes Radeberger beer to Moscow…

 

https://www.bild.de/politik/international/bild-international/as-kgb-spy-in-dresden-putins-secret-stasi-id-discovered-58954138.bild.html

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Neither is Iran. But who's complaining?

 

Putin is like a conductor of an orchestra. He cant possibly play every instrument himself, but he lays down direction of the general thing he wants. And you can tell when he approves and when he doesnt, because the people he approves of get promoted, and the ones that dont are purged or even exiled. Or worse.

 

Or put another way, he is like a Mafia Don. Sure he might put the occasional horse head in the beds to remind everyone not to step out of line, but as long as the money rolls in, they all forgive him for it.

 

We shouldn't mistake control for authority here.

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Neither is Iran. But who's complaining?

 

Putin is like a conductor of an orchestra. He cant possibly play every instrument himself, but he lays down direction of the general thing he wants. And you can tell when he approves and when he doesnt, because the people he approves of get promoted, and the ones that dont are purged or even exiled. Or worse.

 

Or put another way, he is like a Mafia Don. Sure he might put the occasional horse head in the beds to remind everyone not to step out of line, but as long as the money rolls in, they all forgive him for it.

 

We shouldn't mistake control for authority here.

 

Russian Federation is not a dictatorship. Who would have thought? And even in the USSR the control was far from absolute.

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It sure as hell is no Democracy. You really need to read what they are doing with their national guard and internet censorship before you write off the idea they are falling back on old times, because that is clearly what the Kremlin has in mind for them. Maybe worse.

 

In the USSR, control was not absolute, only because they didnt have the technology to monitor the dissident elements and keep them in line, despite having the worlds largest secret police. In an era when everyone and his uncle posts what they think on facebook, youtube and twitter, the difficulties are somewhat less.

 

Dont take my word for any of this, go and listen to any Russian commentator on Atlantic Council or CSIS. Anne Applebaum and Julia Ioffe. People far higher than my pay grade.

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Dont take my word for any of this, go and listen to any Russian commentator on Atlantic Council or CSIS. Anne Applebaum and Julia Ioffe. People far higher than my pay grade.

You are making the same mistake that most Western politicians and military planners always make: they base their judgment on Russian affairs on opinion of defectors or pro-Western opposition figures .. Advising somebody to "listen to any Russian commentator on Atlantic Council or CSIS" to understand Russia is like advising to listen to anti-Trump radicals to understand USA

Another wrong choice is Eastern Europeans who consider themselves experts on Russia just because they live nearby - listening to their advice on US is like asking Mexicans to describe USA.

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