The 'vladmir Putin Rocks' Thread

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

People dont change very much. We are all just primates swinging through the trees when you get down to it, with all the positives and negatives that implies.

Speak for yourself, you evolutionist brachiocephalic campesino, myself I come in a straight line down from an Atlantean demigod!

 

 

Atlantean demigod with just a trace of Clyde the Orangutang.

[Panzermann]

Only a demigod parent? pfft. Loser.

[mnm]

Parthenogenesis, it's on Wikipedia but 3/4 of it are lies.

[Panzermann]

Parthenogenesis, it's on Wikipedia but 3/4 of it are lies.

 

True. Gilgamesh is two halves god and one half human.

 

Math is obviously not a divine strength.

[mnm]

You are raciss. The excess is for spares, it said so in the contract.

[Roman Alymov]

 

 

Agreed, im just suggesting in practice its not impossible they were either members of, or reported also to the KGB. They certainly DID have a number of informers, maybe even actual officers, in the Orthodox Church, something that caused a few problems in the 1990's as some of them made it to high office in the church.

 

 

 

 

 

No, you didnt mention that, what happened?

 

Seems to me you are mixing political officers with “counter-intelligence” officers. First ones were not supposed to have agents networks – but to, ideally, convert every soldier into ideology-motivated and politically educated fighter. The closest approach to “informers” work was writing reports about political and general mood in their units (also, on higher levels, done by extracting quantitative and qualitative statistics from monitoring soldiers correspondence). Political officer trying to establish informers network was quite likely to run in argument with counter-intelligence officer who is responsible for doing that. Of course on ground level in massive war-time army, when millions of individual people interact everything may happen – situation when political officer was stronger personality and as result dominating over weaker personality of counterintelligence, but it is not how it is supposed to be.

Somewhere in late 1952-early 1953, when my grandfather already was experienced coal mine engineer and decorated hero of war, somebody wrote unanimous letter that was saying he is not the one who he is supposed to be, of wrong social background (from rich family) etc. Somehow my grandfather was informed about it - so he rushed to the village on upper Don he was originating from, to collect first-hand data about his ancestors. As result, we got this document recording data provided by local elders with lots of useful information (including exact date my grandgrand father was killed on WWI)

 

Somehow, due to this document or to Stalin’s death, he got away safely and continued his career very successfully. But tricky part is unanimous letter was not exactly wrong - as he was in fact from relatively rich Cossack family, that was “de-Cossacked” after Revolution, losing all possessions, and sort of covered this fact when at the age of 16 he was forced to go to cut coal in Donbass coal mines to make his living. And decade later after this events, in 1960th, my grandfather's uncle, who was believed vanished during Civil War, suddenly turned out from exile in France, where he, Denikin Army officer, was living all this time.

 

Not, not at all. Im just suggesting that there might well have been a lack of trust in the army that they would have felt a need to back up the system by having their own people on hand. I mean, after what happened on the Storozhevoy, one could hardly blame them if they did.

 

Thanks for that, that is genuinely interesting. I cant say im very surprised. I was watching a BBC documentary (Nazi's a warning from history) and they found the records in a small German town of the local Gestapo office. In one case they found a young woman whom was denounced to the nazi's as being a defeatist or some such. I forget what happened to her, presumably executed. The thing was they actually traced the person whom denounced her and asked her why she did it. She denied ever doing such a thing, and in fact claimed to be unable to remember that far back. They asked someone else what the victim was like. And they said she rubbed people up the wrong way. The likelihood is she didnt do anything wrong, just like your grandfather. Someone just used the opportunities the system provided to denounce her for their own reasons, and presumably get their own back.

 

In that regard, one authoritarian system is not that different from another. A not very palatable fact, but it seems borne out by the evidence of its effects. And people worldwide are not that really different when you get down to it. I get the impression the British citizens on Jersey behaved in much the same manner, as did the Polish farmers who grassed up my Grandfather and his buddies for stealing potato's.

 

Yes it is quite possible as all sorts of human stories (including those related to competition and even class hate) were happening in this places. Will tall another small coal mining city tale later (about "class hate").

By the way in April this year, Putin ruled NKVD\KGB archives of reports of this kind (dated 1930-1989) to be digitalized and published. It caused a lot of concerns among "Russian liberal opposition"

http://uposter.ru/blog/sozial/9291.html

Edited July 7, 2017 by Roman Alymov

[Stuart Galbraith]

That is likely to be very interesting, particularly if they have the records of leading Communists Stalin purged. But at 14000 that is just a drop in a bucket of what was really happening.

[bd1]

https://9gag.com/gag/ar5RWqK

[Stuart Galbraith]

The full clip is even more interesting. They were discussing this on RT with the public, and they came up with everything from the No fly zone, North Korea and Ukraine. Or maybe Merkel was just discussing her long held desire to be a ballerina at the Bolshoi.

 

After watching the Oliver stone documentary, I can understand where she is coming from. The man is more intractable than a Tanknetter.

[Marek Tucan]

Apparently there was some retouching.

 

[bd1]

Apparently there was some retouching.

 

https://giphy.com/gifs/smile-russians-UxNCd08uBaFBC

[Stuart Galbraith]

Or maybe someone airbrushed him out?

[bd1]

that same one who airbrushed the george-ribbon from merkel?

[JasonJ]

The full clip is even more interesting. They were discussing this on RT with the public, and they came up with everything from the No fly zone, North Korea and Ukraine. Or maybe Merkel was just discussing her long held desire to be a ballerina at the Bolshoi.

 

After watching the Oliver stone documentary, I can understand where she is coming from. The man is more intractable than a Tanknetter.

I bet it was about the range and altitude of the Heasong-14 ICBM the North Korea launched and Putin is trying to pass it as a medium range BM with much shorter travel distance and altitude as describe by Russia at the UNSC. Good sign from Merkel

[Stuart Galbraith]

Merkel 'Of course we are giving some serious though to reactivating the Wehrmacht Moonbase on the Dark side of the moon. They are thinking of calling it Moonbase Merkel'.

Putin 'Niet. There will be no room for any further moonbases, we are already building Moonbase Putin 1 through 5. You will have to go somewhere else. Maybe I can sell you some land on Pluto?

Edited July 11, 2017 by Stuart Galbraith

[Roman Alymov]

[Panzermann]

ice fishing with style.

 

 

 

But needs a white persian for completion.

[Roman Alymov]

Putin is no more the most tactical President ever - he was beaten by Turkmenistan one

[mnm]

[Panzermann]

Putin is no more the most tactical President ever - he was beaten by Turkmenistan one

Actually not half bad weapon handling, but that music and the cutting. The music straddles half-way between bad porn and bad eighties C-list action movie music with synthies and the cut is bad. Also those staged scenes in front of the soldiers and him fiddling with a soldiers scope.

[mnm]

You're dissing all the best features of the film! And I'd like to see your President or my President do a tenth of what this cross between Chinghiz Kahn and Duterte did here!

 

 

[Mr King]

How does one pronounce "Juche" in Uzbek?

[Mr King]

[Marek Tucan]

The soldiers in the video seem to make rather dubious faces when he has any weapon in hand.

 

"Shit, did someone tell him where the safety is?"

"Did you hear they want to downsize? What if this is why..."

"Oh, he stopped shooting... CLAP CLAP CLAP!"

[Roman Alymov]

I wonder if it is sponsored product placement