And We Are Off To The Races

[Ssnake]

Lina E. was once sixteen too, and probably not a violent serial criminal at that point. That's the whole idea behind prevention.

But, that aside:

Your proposal is that the principal should have done his own investigation irrespective of his own talent and training for it (last time I checked, principals were teachers promoted to administrative positions, not private investigators). Then, if he had come to the same conclusion as the police and had a talk with "Loretta", you would have criticized him for taking the matter in his own hands rather than let the professionals handle it.

The only way you wouldn't criticize this is if nobody had done anything, but then you'd complain at the next occasion why nobody had done anything when it's the kind of political outlier you don't like.

[Markus Becker]

Since you are already knowing how I would have reacted if the principal had acted differently any further discussion with you is superfluous. Certainly on this topic. 

[BansheeOne]

1 hour ago, Markus Becker said:

The information this is based on is dubious as fuck. Maybe that's why they didn't speak of the screenshots for days?

Funnily, it was the girl and/or her mother either lying or not preventing the latter from approaching the "Junge Freiheit" on her own initiative to claim it was only about smurfs and innocent patriotism. Not about hooded selfies using, by pure coincidence, a slogan of those other masked kids in the videos training in combat sports (of course strictly for purposes of self-defense in case the real Antifa or some immigrant terrorists suddenly jump out from behind a bush), and giving group salutes totally not designed to skip around the ban of displaying Nazi symbology.

I know, I know, Loretta said they never told her it was about those. But then she also said the cops burst into her class to march her out, before admitting it didn't happen. Or at least mom, who is busy throwing her under the bus now that her political "friends" have turned on her for making them look like a bunch of overeager idiots, claims she only related what her baby told her to the JF (and Julian Reichelt's "Nius", and "Bild", but denying a request by fellow Springer press daily "Welt" which came up with the additional info first).

Now that the spotlight is on them, neither denies that those posts are Loretta's, either (just a "youthful provocation"). Incidentally, withholding those details out of regard for the privacy of a minor is quite believable, until the school and principal got flooded with hate mails and threats, and more hooded figures climbed onto its roof with banners, because right-wing sites had thoughtfully spread the relevant contact data. Nothing of which would have happened if mommy wouldn't have decided to make a political splash, happily aided by the daughter.

[Markus Becker]

2 minutes ago, BansheeOne said:

Incidentally, withholding those details out of regard for the privacy of a minor is quite believable

Otoh, calling the cops to the school isn't showing much regard for the privacy of said minor, isn't it? 

 

12 minutes ago, BansheeOne said:

Nothing of which would have happened if mommy wouldn't have decided to make a political splash, happily aided by the daughter.

Yes, but nothing would have also happened if the principal hadn't overreacted. 

[BansheeOne]

Calling the cops according to guidelines about preventing extremism and violence in school, but having them wait outside while fetching the girl from class is pretty much within the balance between security and privacy. All subsequent claims, counterclaims, backtracking and obfuscation are well-documented. The JF even thought Loretta's story was important enough for not just Germany, but all of the world to hear, so they courteously translated the interview with her and her mother following the initial report on the same day to English (second quote below, all others improved auto-translation).

Friday:

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Student taken away from class

Loretta case: “I would not have believed what was done to my daughter was possible”

March 15, 2024

Author: Martina Meckelein

In Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, a 16-year-old girl is suddenly taken out of class by three police officers in front of her classmates. The offense: She says on TikTok that Germany is her home and not just a place on the map. The student is denounced by her own director.

“I am horrified,” says the mother to JUNGE FREIHEIT. And the woman's voice trembles with indignation: "This is such heavy, if I may say so, Stasi shit, I would never have believed what was done to my daughter here possible in my entire life." Her daughter, we call her Miriam, is 16 years old. She is a student at the Richard Wossidlo High School in Ribnitz-Damgarten in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania. We have anonymized the people to protect them - the only question is: from whom?

Review: February 27th. While Miriam sits and learns at school in the morning, school director Jan-Dirk Zimmermann picks up the phone. “Around 9:45 a.m., the school principal informed the police about a possible criminal matter,” explains Marcel Opitz, the press spokesman for the responsible Stralsund police station, to JF about what happened. “According to him, there was information that a 17-year-old student may have spread suspected unconstitutional content on social networks. A radio car was dispatched to the school to investigate the matter.”

There are three police officers on the patrol (“due to an odd number of officers on the early shift”), according to the police’s email reply to this newspaper’s list of questions. They drive to the Richard-Wossidlo-Gymnasium in Ribnitz-Damgarten. The officers are investigating the matter, but “an initial suspicion of a crime could not be established,” says press spokesman Opitz.

SPD-affiliated foundation presents itself at the school

So what was the reason for the director calling the police? “My daughter,” says the mother, “posted a Smurf video on TikTok a few months ago. It says that the Smurfs and Germany have something in common: The Smurfs are blue and so is Germany. That was probably a funny AfD advertising post. And then she once posted that Germany is not a place, but a home.”

[...]

So the guardians of the law head to the chemistry room, because Miriam is being taught there. “My daughter later told me that the three police officers with Mr. Zimmermann suddenly stood in front of the chemistry room * and picked her up. That's what made me so incredibly angry." The mother goes on to describe how her daughter was escorted by the officers. “Like she’s a criminal. Throughout the whole school. There are over 500 students there. It's incredible. And then we went through the whole school building to the teachers’ room.”

When arriving, the school secretary is still there. “And then the police officers told my daughter that for her own protection, the officers would like her to refrain from posting such posts in the future. So they knew beforehand what my daughter had posted, they knew that it wasn't a criminal offense and yet there was this demonstration, these threats, these suppressions of freedom of expression.

“Luckily my daughter has a strong character”

Miriam tells her mother everything at home. “Luckily my daughter has a strong character. She had already been approached by a teacher who is married to a Turk. It couldn't be true that my daughter would vote for the AfD, whether she wanted her husband and children to have to go back to Turkey?" Miriam's mother has now reached the threshold of pain.

“I called the principal at school. I said, 'Mr. Zimmermann, if you think there's something wrong with my daughter, talk to me first!' Then the director told me that he wasn’t allowed to do that, he was told to inform the police immediately.”

[...]

Editorial note: The article originally said according to the mother: “the three police officers suddenly appeared in the room”. The mother corrected herself to our newspaper when asked.

It is now known that those affected are Ms. Annett B. and her daughter Loretta, who we are therefore naming here with the mother's consent. However, for the sake of authenticity, we have retained the changed names originally chosen for this article.

https://jungefreiheit.de/politik/deutschland/2024/fall-loretta-ich-haette-nicht-fuer-moeglich-gehalten-was-meiner-tochter-angetan-wurde/

 

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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW

„Look, we’re doing this with pupils who aren’t politically in line with us!“

15. März 2024

Autor: Moritz Schwarz

German police have pulled a 16-year-old schoolgirl out of her class after she was denounced by her headteacher for expressing political sympathies with right-wing party AfD in a harmless „Smurf video“. The incident has caused a national scandal in Germany. Now Loretta and her mother speak out publicly for the first time in a interview with conservative weekly Junge Freiheit. The girl feels humiliated, he mother fears for political freedom and civil rights in Germany.

Mrs. B. (surname abbreviated to protect her privacy), as a mother, would you ever have thought such a thing possible?

Annett B.: No, never in my life. It’s unbelievable what was done to my daughter here!

Loretta, how are you?

Loretta: I’m doing well again now. I’m overwhelmed by the solidarity I’ve received on social media from complete strangers.

Mrs. B., Christian Pegel (SPD), Interior Minister of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, said in the state parliament on Thursday that the police operation against Loretta was „proportionate“.

Annett B.: Please, my daughter was virtually taken away in front of everyone! And Mr. Pegel says that she wasn’t put in handcuffs after all. That’s really cynical!

Loretta: „All the voices fell silent and everyone stared at me – it was the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to me“ 

When confronted with the allegations, the police defended themselves by saying that the classmates in Loretta’s class „didn’t even notice the officers“.

Annett B.: Numerous pupils were eyewitnesses. At no time did they seem to have thought about how the matter could be discussed discreetly and anonymously.

Loretta, what was it really like?

Loretta: My mother is right. I felt everyone’s stinging eyes on me. It was the most embarrassing thing that’s ever happened to me.

Annett B.: You can criticize our conservative political views, you can reject them, find them wrong and reprehensible, we respect that. But to call the police because of a pupil’s opinion – that’s simply unbelievable!

And then to take her out of class and escort her through the school like a criminal and, on top of that, to spread the word in the press afterwards that it was necessary to conduct a kind of „endangerment talk“ (Preventive police measure) with her and thus portray a completely innocent minor as a potential criminal in front of the whole world – do these people actually realize what they are doing?

According to Section 13 of the police law of the state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, where you live, such an „endangerment talk“ is justified in order to „ward off dangers that threaten public safety or order“.

Annett B.: My daughter’s political opinion does not threaten „public safety or order“ of the state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern! My God, she posted a Smurf video and a map of Germany on Tiktok several months ago!

„The AfD is being put down everywhere else – I think that’s unfair“

Loretta, why did you do that?

Loretta: Because I wanted to support the AfD a little bit, because they’re being put down everywhere else. I think that’s unfair. So I posted a few Smurfs together with a map of Germany on which the federal states are colored different shades of blue depending on the AfD state election results and wrote: „The Smurfs are blue – and so is Germany!“

That can’t possibly be everything.

Loretta: I also posted on Tiktok that Germany is not just a place, but that Germany is home – and even for many nationalities living in this beautiful country.

Please Loretta, if a 16 year old thinks that Germany is her home, then, your mother is right, it is not a threat to public safety. So: what about, for example, calls for violence, subversion, hatred of minorities or incitement to hatred?

Annett B.: Excuse me, what kind of person do you think Loretta is?

Something must have happened to justify such a police operation.

Loretta: The police spoke of „incitement to hatred“.

In what way?

Loretta: Well, because of the Smurfs, the map of Germany and „Germany is home“.

That doesn’t make any sense. 

Loretta: I posted other things on Tiktok, like that AfD party leader Alice Weidel is my role model, or AfD-politician Björn Höcke’s quote „You raise your children to be sheep and let wolves into the country“, because that’s exactly what I’m afraid of as a girl! But they weren’t mentioned by the police.

„No, what the police are saying is not true“

Why don’t you tell us from the beginning, what exactly happened? 

Loretta: It was on February 27, a Tuesday, just before ten: We were having chemistry lessons, acids and bases. We saw a police car drive up through the window. Three officers got out. They enter the school. Shortly afterwards, school principal Zimmermann is standing in the doorway.

That means, contrary to what this newspaper initially reported online, the officers didn’t enter the room?

Loretta: No, they stayed in the hallway and Mr. Zimmermann asked me to come out.

Did the officers really stay so discreetly in the background that they were not visible to your classmates, as the police claimed?

Loretta: No, that’s not true. There was a knock at the door and Mr. Zimmermann came in, opening the door so wide that the rest of the class could clearly see that there were three officers standing there. We all thought, what’s going on now? And then my name came up – I immediately realized what it was all about.

Why, if your Tiktok videos were harmless?

Loretta: Because they’re the only thing I could be accused of, since they were my posts for the AfD and many like to denounce them as „anti-constitutional“. So I walked out and then I went to the staff room: one policeman in front of me, one behind me, one to the side and Mr. Zimmermann on the other side at an angle.

[...]

What exactly did the police officers say to you?

Loretta: That what I would have done had no criminal relevance.

So you didn’t give any reasons for the whole thing?

Loretta: Yes, as I said, there was talk of incitement of the people and, I think, anti-constitutionality.

What now? It was just said that there was no criminal offense?

Loretta: I didn’t understand that either and said that the AfD is not an anti-constitutional or right-wing extremist party. When I said that, I noticed in the corner of my eye how Mr. Zimmermann just rolled his eyes. One of the police officers also said that I had already shown „too much national pride“ on Tiktok.

So you weren’t really accused of anything other than expressing your opinion?

Loretta: Yes.

And with what consequences, I mean, what did that amount to? What did the police officers want?

Loretta: Well, that I shouldn’t do that in future.

To express your political opinion freely?

Loretta: Yes, on the Internet.

Annett B.: Look, I can’t believe that! So much for freedom of expression and democracy.

„My pro-AfD videos were deleted – but ‘Kill AfDers’-videos were not“

So there’s nothing wrong with you, yet the police pull you out of class in front of everyone and demand that you renounce your basic constitutional and civil right to freedom of expression in future. Is that really the whole story, Loretta, surely you haven’t left anything out?

Loretta: They then took my personal details and wanted to know where they could find my mother, her phone number and so on.

[...]

https://jungefreiheit.de/debatte/interview/2024/german-police-pull-16-year-old-loretta-out-of-school-class-because-of-wrong-political-opinion/

Saturday:

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Police took student out of class because of AfD video

Now her mother is talking

By: UWE FREITAG 

March 16, 2024 - 1:31 p.m

Annett B. (41) will never forget this last Tuesday in February.

The office clerk was working from home, as always, when the police called her and said that there was an operation at the Richard Wossidlo High School in Ribnitz-Damgarten (Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania) because of her daughter Loretta (16).

The trigger was a pro-AfD video with the Smurfs. Daughter Loretta shared the video on social media, whereupon the school principal alerted the police. The student picked it up from chemistry class.

“I knew the video,” says Annett B. “And we also knew that she was posting it.”

We vote for AfD, but also accept other views

Annett B. makes no secret of the fact that she and her daughter only feel understood by the AfD . “You can no longer vote for any other party.”

But she also makes it clear: “Loretta was raised in such a way that everyone is allowed to have their opinion and you accept it.”

When Annett B. talks about the police operation, words like bullying are used.

[...]

The mother said there were 12th grade students sitting in the atrium when Loretta walked through with the three police officers. “She was completely ashamed and - when she returned to her class after the conversation in the staff room - she immediately said to the teacher: Don't worry. I did nothing wrong."

Hate message on social media

So far, the 16-year-old has had the feeling that her classmates are sticking by her. On Friday morning she received the message via social media: There is no place for Nazis here. “We don’t know who this message came from. Loretta then didn't want to go to school. But I said: You go.”

Annett B regrets that a shitstorm has now poured over the headmaster and the school. “That’s terrible. I want to make it very clear: we have nothing to do with this. I’m also completely taken aback by the sensation this is causing.”

At the end of the conversation, Loretta's mother says clearly: "If they're going after the children , especially over such a trifle, a red line is crossed."

https://m.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/polizei-holte-schuelerin-wegen-afd-video-aus-dem-unterricht-jetzt-redet-ihre-mut-87531514.bildMobile.html?t_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

Monday:

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Police operation after Smurf video: How the Ministry of Family Affairs incites teachers to monitor their students

March 18, 2024 - 3:05 p.m

EDITORIAL STAFF

The tranquil Ribnitz-Damgarten in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania can not find peace. In February, the headmaster of the Richard-Wossidlo-Gymnasium, Jan-Dirk Zimmermann, called the police after a whistleblower alerted him to Tiktok videos by 16-year-old student Loretta. In it she spoke out for the AfD and expressed love for her homeland.

It remains controversial whether the behavior of the school principal and the police officers was appropriate and on what legal basis it was based. The Interior Minister of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, Christian Pegel, described the police operation in the state parliament as “proportionate”.

Instructions from the Ministry of Education?

Loretta's mother stated in an interview with NIUS that the school principal, according to his own statement, had received an instruction from the country's Ministry of Education several weeks before the police operation to pay attention to extremist tendencies among his students: he had to obey any signs of right-wing extremism or anti-constitutional behavior report to the Ministry of Education, the school authority and the police. Teachers are also encouraged to pay attention to right-wing extremist codes in the students' clothing, such as combat boots or certain brands. This is how the headmaster presented it, according to the mother.

NIUS spoke to Loretta:

[...]

https://www.nius.de/analyse/polizeieinsatz-nach-schlumpf-video-wie-das-familienministerium-lehrer-anstiftet-seine-schueler-zu-ueberwachen/a78de27b-6a71-4433-9ac5-f7fbe734dc44

Wednesday:

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Police operation on student

Mother says: “Then we would have reacted differently”

By Lars Wienand

Updated on March 20, 2024

There was a lot of excitement about the police visit to a student because of her TikTok posts. The mother now has to realize that there was a serious reason for this.

The Smurfs have had enough - they don't want to stand for political messages: The Belgian rights holder will apparently take action against legal violations, which are rife after an incident at a high school in Ribnitz-Damgarten. It is now clear that the Smurfs are not responsible for the fact that the headmaster called the police and a student was led through the school building flanked by three officers.

Annett B., mother of 16-year-old Loretta, has one of the little blue creatures in her account on a social network profile and will throw him out. “The Smurf is innocent,” she tells t-online. The public has been talking for days about the fact that a video with Smurfs and sympathy for the AfD was the trigger for the police visit. “We firmly believed that until now,” says the mother. She complains that the family now looks like liars because the actions surrounding the unannounced police visit to the school were so questionable.

Mother has known screenshots since Tuesday

Because the family is worried they might have to hire lawyers or even move because of the commotion, a friend has set up a fundraiser for them. This is also illustrated with a Smurf picture. “I’ll have it replaced,” the mother explains to t-online. "It wasn't my idea, and I'm a little critical of that. Hopefully, if we don't need the money, it will go to a non-profit organization."

Annett B. has been aware of screenshots from the account since Tuesday, which were the trigger for suspicions that her daughter might have connections to the neo-Nazi scene. “I didn’t know anything about that,” she says. "And Loretta isn't like that, she wanted to provoke."

She says: Her daughter also believed that it was about Smurfs and a post related to home in her previously deleted account. Annett B. also explains that she can now "understand better that people have given it some thought. But if things had gone smoothly from the school and the police, then we would have known what it was about and reacted differently." They ran into an open knife.

The mother turned to the AfD-affiliated “Junge Freiheit” and with her description started a wave that she cannot control herself. "I wanted consequences to be drawn and something like this not to happen again." From their point of view, given the overall circumstances with orderly family relationships and no abnormalities at school, the approach was completely excessive.

In addition, the talk of the Smurf video was the trigger for the principal to take the student away from the class and three police officers who were standing in front of the open door. "During the conversation, the police officers asked Loretta whether she could guess what it was about." Loretta called the Smurf video, "the police didn't contradict her."

Codes of the neo-Nazi scene part of the postings

This video was still present months after it was posted because Loretta had asked her beforehand whether she could send it. "When she came home from school that day, the first thing she did was apologize for being in trouble because of the Smurfs. We all assumed that was the reason." That's why she didn't specifically ask the police officers when they reported on the same day. B's description clearly contradicts the police's statement in a press release, according to which the "reason for the operation was comprehensively explained."

[...]

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/panorama/buntes-kurioses/id_100368328/schlumpf-in-ribnitz-damgarten-mutter-kennt-wahren-grund-fuer-polizeibesuch.html

Friday again:

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Ribnitz-Damgarten High School

Smurf scandal without Smurf: AfD blames mother for media avalanche

By Uwe Reißenweber | March 21, 2024, 5:39 p.m

Police at the Ribnitz-Damgarten high school: The state parliament's education committee tried to clarify open questions on Thursday.

In the affair surrounding the Ribnitz-Damgarten high school, the school received the anonymous email the day before the police operation. The email was received on February 26th at 7:12 a.m., said Education State Secretary Tom Scheidung (Left) on Thursday at a special meeting of the state parliament's education committee. It wasn't until February 27th that the conversation with the affected student about posts published on the Internet took place. The police had not identified any criminal-related issues. According to the Interior Ministry, the Ribnitz-Damgarten police station received a tip from the school management at around 9:45 a.m. on February 27th to investigate a possible criminal matter. This notice was received by telephone.

The police were alerted due to an emergency plan. According to Education Minister Simone Oldenburg (Left), a school principal has a responsibility to ensure that no student is physically or psychologically harmed: “Even an indication of a possible crime is an emergency.”

According to information from our newspaper, the police did not attempt to determine the IP address of the sender of the anonymous email. According to a police spokeswoman, there is no legal basis for this.

For the education policy spokesman for the CDU parliamentary group, Torsten Renz, the actions of the red-red state government are “a pure transparency and communication disaster”. Apparently Oldenburg and Interior Minister Christian Pegel (SPD) agreed that the questions would stop on their own if they were ignored stubbornly enough and that in this way the topic would not have any media relevance. “I notice: the exact opposite has happened,” said Renz afterwards.

AfD rejects allegations

AfD MP Enrico Schult rejected the accusation made by the SPD, the Left and the Greens of an orchestrated smear campaign by his party and circles close to it. Instead, he blamed the student's mother for the Germany-wide media avalanche that rolled towards Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, the school and the headmaster: she brought the Smurf video into the world.

On Tuesday, police clarified “that the reason police were called was not a Smurf video posted on social media.” The police spoke of an email from a whistleblower with eight screenshots in which the student allegedly posted sayings such as “nix yallah yallah” and “German is spoken in Germany” on TikTok. A profile description, presumably shown on Instagram, says “home, freedom, tradition, multicultural final destination”. The posts can all be attributed to the 16-year-old. Previous reporting was instead about a “Smurfs video” that the mother told the weekly newspaper “Junge Freiheit” about last week.

[...]

https://www.svz.de/deutschland-welt/mecklenburg-vorpommern/artikel/schlumpf-skandal-ohne-schlumpf-afd-macht-mutter-verantwortlich-46691685

[BansheeOne]

Second round in the legal show battle over the "Correctiv" report. Upon revision, an upper court rejected the complaints of the plaintiffs against the injunctions not granted in the first round in full. Of no legal consequence, but in a potentially severe blow to the current right-wing narrative if someone cares to exploit it systematically, the court also rejected the argument by the plaintiffs' attorneys that "Correctiv" had, well, corrected parts of the report itself, indicating admission of falsehoods.

OTOH, as the German LTO again notes, neither did the judges establish that the entire report was true, like "Correctiv" now claims, because they only ruled on narrow contested passages. With the path of injunctions now exhausted for all practical purposes, the plaintiffs could go for a full suit, though the LTO opines they're unlikely to because the courts can be expected to reach the same conclusions again.

[Markus Becker]

The "Correctiv" tale is pretty much yesterdays news and for a good reason. As the LTO states the super-controversial statements that made all the headlines are just Correctiv's opinion and not facts. This is but minor aftershakes. As the LTO explains.

The open question now is who tipped off Correctiv about the meeting. The government was asked if they had any prior knowledge and answered that they could not answer the question because that would reveal confidential procedures of the VS. 

 

WRT balance between security and privacy, inform the police but ask them not to come to the school.

[BansheeOne]

Well that's also yesterday's news, because at this point it's established that the girl and/or her mother lied about pretty much all the details that made headlines, too. Which is why there's not been another peep about the topic out of JF, Nius, "Tichy's Einblick" et al since Friday after they laboriously tried to drag it out with claims of "you don't know if that's herself in the selfies on her socials" until the Bundestag debate on it that day. The rest remains to be sorted out within a family that appears to have some internal issues with truth and trust.

Incidentally, not a peep out of the same usual suspects about the second round over "Correctiv", either. And probably for good reason; because after the court explicitely rejected the claim by the plaintiff's attorney that "Correctiv" itself supposedly clarified that the "impression" of plans to expell German citizens created by "manipulative judgement" was "false", drawing any attention to any current or prior reports stating this as fact would probably get themselves hit with injunctions to stop spreading falsehoods, and unravel the whole precarious narrative.

If the new line is "it's all yesterday's news anyway", no half-smart medium is going to go out on a limb speculating about government tips on the meeting either. Not only would it contradict the line, but lend credence to "Correctiv's" rather sensationalist claims about the "secretive" nature, based on little more than invitations by snail mail only rather than electronic means. Though I could see some alternative media not meeting the half-smart threshold going for it.

[Markus Becker]

3 hours ago, BansheeOne said:

Incidentally, not a peep out of the same usual suspects about the second round over "Correctiv", either. And probably for good reason; because after the court explicitely rejected the claim by the plaintiff's attorney that "Correctiv" itself supposedly clarified that the "impression" of plans to expell German citizens created by "manipulative judgement" was "false", drawing any attention to any current or prior reports stating this as fact would probably get themselves hit with injunctions to stop spreading falsehoods, and unravel the whole precarious narrative.

So some minor stuff wasn't made up? Big deal! The main points have been revealed as false. 

BTW, others are still getting a beating for their Fake News.

https://apollo-news.net/potsdam-treffen-medium-t-online-muss-unterlassungs-erklaerung-abgeben/

 

[Markus Becker]

Thuringia to go Fake Conservative/Old School Communist?

 

https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/deutschland/lanz-thueringen-wahl-cdu-mario-voigt-100.html

In the dreams of the regional CDU big zucchini. He's made overtures the the old left BSW, praising them for there economic and migration plans that he calls more realistic than the ones of the Greens. 

Never mind that that's hardly saying much considering what the Greens are doing, the BSW is pretty much in line with the AfD wrt migration, energy and Russia. 

And it's not enough anyway, the two would be at a mare ~35%, even with the woke left SPD they'd still be at just ~44% and there's the matter of the anti woke BSW risking it's reputation by entering a coalition with the SPD.

Times in Thuringia will be Chinese level interesting. Stock up on pizza and beer.