Who Was The First To Use Spall Liners In Their Afvs?

[dejawolf]

as the topic says, who was the first to use spall liners, and is there any history about spall liners?

i know the M113A3 got upgraded with spall liners in 1987, but beyond that..

[bojan]

Soviets with T-64.

[Old Tanker]

I saw nylon spall liners hanging inside a M-60A1 in 1963.Don't know if it was standard or not it was assigned to the Inf. School at Ft. Benning for demonstration and show and tell purposes.

[bojan]

IIRC test only. Lot of countries experimented at about same time frame, including France and Germany.

BTW, Soviet ones were initially inntended for anti-radiation protection, it was only during the testing that it was found those are quite decent for catching secondary fragments.

[Mobius]

The Chuchill had spall protection with a thin mild steel layer behind the main armor.

[Paul Lakowski]

IIRC test only. Lot of countries experimented at about same time frame, including France and Germany.

BTW, Soviet ones were initially inntended for anti-radiation protection, it was only during the testing that it was found those are quite decent for catching secondary fragments.

 

No the ballistic blanket on the M-60 was standard....but only in the front turret, or so I've heard....

[Old Tanker]

IIRC test only. Lot of countries experimented at about same time frame, including France and Germany.

BTW, Soviet ones were initially inntended for anti-radiation protection, it was only during the testing that it was found those are quite decent for catching secondary fragments.

 

No the ballistic blanket on the M-60 was standard....but only in the front turret, or so I've heard....

 

That is what I saw in 1963. Snap on ballistic curtains around the forward arc of the turret.

[Colin]

I guess the chain mail for WWI tank crews does not count?

[Max H]

AFAIK they were intended more for bits of molten lead from bullets working their way between the joins in the armour plate. Not really spall, as the armour isn't being penetrated (the lead is just finding any holes left by manufacture) and nothing is being knocked off the armour plate.

[Przezdzieblo]

Max H, it is called anti-splash protection. Splash is all that bullet remains, lead rubbish that surprizingly easy gets inside through even the smallest gaps in armour (vision slits, periscope or sight ports, mantlet area). You are right that anti-spall protection is very different matter.