rmgill 0 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Yep. Bessimer process. Iron ore, coal, limestone + air gets you iron. Then you can do it again (Basic Oxygen Furnace) to refine the iron to steel, using coke instead of coal to further reduce and refine. With iron you can also use an electric arc furnace but there I think you can have issues with carbon burning off and you need to re-add it as the mixture requires. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunday 0 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Looks like the Bessemer process stopped being relevant around 1980: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steelmaking#Modern_processes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmgill 0 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, sunday said: Looks like the Bessemer process stopped being relevant around 1980: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steelmaking#Modern_processes Umm Nope. They still need coal. What they've done is removed the need for the coal converted to coke first. But they still need the coal as a way of fueling and removing the oxygen from the ore to make the pig iron. Remember, iron ore is iron oxide. You need to drive the oxygen out and that's done with combining it with the carbon from the coal in the combustion and mixing process. Edited January 9 by rmgill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunday 0 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Converters, be they Bessemer, be they BOF, need pig iron from a blast furnace, and a blast furnace needs metallurgical coal. That was my original point, sorry. Some new processes, like FINEX, or HIsarna could use other coal grades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmgill 0 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 And I guess I'm lumping Bessimer with other more advanced processes. I think it really comes down to the way they introduce the coal and the fine part of how it's all cooked, slowly or quickly. Maybe a way of thinking is it baked or broiled? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Peter 0 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Hungarian Transport Museum got 4 special engines (Hungarian, pictures) A 424 (a little Finnish connection in nickname) and a 242 steam locomotives, an M44 diesel (I don't think really special, my first H0 locomotive),and a V60 electric locomotive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bojan 0 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 21 hours ago, Adam Peter said: ...an M44 diesel (I don't think really special, my first H0 locomotive)... Green one with black/white chevrons on front? I had that one, as well as red M61. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Peter 0 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) 4 hours ago, bojan said: Green one with black/white chevrons on front? I had that one, as well as red M61. It was all-blue. Edit: These days I see them in these colors, S means Sopron in the name of the local railways company. Edited January 12 by Adam Peter Add local one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bojan 0 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) Hm, could be that it was a local livery version, but I don't remember if it had local markings. Painted exactly like this one: Edited January 12 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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