Red Ice Box

[Colin]

Where the wood came from for the Mossie

https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=53.051533,-132.101498&spn=0.05799,0.12291&t=h&z=13

[Marek Tucan]

So close to Junograd?

[BansheeOne]

Pardon me but where do we use Cav and Tank Regts? Are they Divisional Troops? Are the Regiments like the British ones, essentially recruting and force generation centers or do they deploy? I assume they must be the latter with the amount of tail and Regimental assets.......

 

I was concerned that there might be congestion in Stoyanka if there was a concentration of industries, bases and government. I am an idiot. THere is nothing but vastness. Anchorage today is still titchy.

 

There is just vast tracts of Matsu and Kenai to train and build kasernes. Mind you, it might be highly unpopular with the officers who will have a hell of a time to get back home for dinner and other important activities.

 

The regiments are somewhat curiously in between the Commonwealth and continental system so far. They deploy in mass, but they also recruit/induct locally; not exclusively due to cohesion, but because the land is so spread out recruits would in some instances have to travel for a week or more to get to a base on the other side of the country. For the same reasons, supporting arms battalions are grouped into regiments, with the reserve battalions spreading out to the divisions upon mobilization.

 

Of course "locally" may mean "left of center in the arctic North", while the population density in Stoyanka means we can feed half of our four divisions out of the city alone. In another case of cultural baggage, I'm thinking of a system like the German Wehrkreise - I'm just loath to install an extra military administration for the districts with a force as short on manpower as ours.

 

The Russian American Census Bureau helpfully supplies me with the 1932 numbers for the oblasts, telling me they expect an overall 20 percent increase of population for the upcoming 1942 census; I have cross-referenced them with the traditional recruiting areas.

 

 

Central Region: Population 1,479,000

 

- Stoyanka: 1,043,000; 1st - 4th Stoyanka Infantry, 5th - 8th Stoyanka Cavalry, 9th - 11th Stoyanka Artillery, 12th Stoyanka Anti-Air, 13th Stoyanka Engineers, 1st Infantry and 1st Cavalry Division troops. Note: 11th Stoyanka is a heavy artillery regiment (cannon) under army high command, though battalions may be attached to divisions. 12th Stoyanka will provide anti-air battalions, 13th Stoyanka engineer battalions for the divisions upon mobilization.

 

- Matanuska-Susitna: 237,000; 1st M-S Infantry, 2nd M-S Armor, 3rd M-S Artillery, 2nd Infantry Division troops. Note: 2nd M-S will provide armor battalions for the divisions upon mobilization.

 

- Kenai: 199,000; 1st Kenai Infantry, 2nd Kenai Cavalry, 3rd Kenai Anti-Air, Baranov Port Regiment. Note: 2nd Kenai has a unique organization of three light and heavy cavalry squadrons each, which will form the divisional cavalry detachments upon mobilization. 3rd Kenai was disbanded in 1940 to free up personnel for the Air Force, mostly manning Kodiak Air Base with one anti-air group remaining in Kenai.

 

 

Northern Region: Population 428,000

 

- Krasiviyebyeryega: 357,000; 1st - 3rd Krasiviyebyeryega Infantry, 4th Krasiviyebyeryega Artillery, 5th Krasiviyebyeryega Engineers, 3rd Infantry Division troops. Note: 3rd Krasiviyebyeryega was mislabeled as 4th Northern in previous list; they are slated to be disbanded in 1942 to free up personnel for the Air Force, primarily manning Krasiviyebyeryega and Nome Air Bases. 5th Krasiviyebyeryega are a heavy engineer regiment (bridging, road and rail construction) under army high command.

 

- Nome: 37,000; 1st Northern Rangers.

 

- Yukon: 26,000; 1st Northern Rangers.

 

- Denali: 8,000; 1st Northern Rangers.

 

Note: 1st Northern are a light infantry regiment under army high command without heavy fire support and are spread throughout the North in company-sized units.

 

 

Western Region: Population 332,000

 

- Junograd: 123,000; 1st Guards, 1st Coastal Artillery, Novoarkhangelsk Port Regiment.

 

- Ketchikan: 80,000; 1st Ketchikan Infantry. Note: Will be disbanded in 1942 to free up personnel for the Air Force, primarily manning Ketchikan and Junograd Air Bases.

 

- Valdez-Cordova: 41,000; 2nd Northern Infantry, Baranov Port Regiment.

 

- Novoarkhangelsk: 35,000; 1st Marines, 1st Coastal Artillery, Novoarkhangelsk Port Regiment.

 

- Wrangel: 27,000; 1st Marines, 1st Coastal Artillery, Novoarkhangelsk Port Regiment.

 

- Skaguay-Yakutat: 16,000; 2nd Northern Infantry, Baranov Port Regiment.

 

- Dtehshuh: 10,000; 2nd Northern Infantry, Baranov Port Regiment.

 

Note: 2nd Northern is currently being disbanded to free up personnel for the Air Force, primarily manning Yakutat and Baranov Air Bases.

 

 

Eastern Region: Population 186,000

 

- Kodiak: 56,000; 2nd Marines, 2nd Coastal Artillery, Kodiak Port Regiment.

 

- Kuskokwim: 48,000; 3rd Northern Infantry.

 

- Romanzof: 28,000; 3rd Northern Infantry.

 

- Aleutians: 22,000; 2nd Marines, 2nd Coastal Artillery, Unalaska Port Regiment.

 

- Nushagak: 20,000; 2nd Marines, 2nd Coastal Artillery, Unalaska Port Regiment.

 

- Alaskan Peninsula: 7,000; 2nd Marines, 2nd Coastal Artillery, Unalaska Port Regiment.

 

- Naknek: 5,000; 2nd Marines, 2nd Coastal Artillery, Unalaska Port Regiment.

 

 

Total: 2,425,000

Edited October 2, 2012 by BansheeOne

[BansheeOne]

Type 1942 Division Command (63/112/524//699)

 

- Division HQ (42/23/67//132)

 

- Command Department (3/1/6//10; 3 x jeep, 1 x 0.4 t truck)

 

- Operations Department

(

7/2/9//14;

7 x jeep, 2 x 0.4 t truck)

 

- Intelligence Department

(4/1/7//12;

4 x jeep, 1 x 0.4 ton truck)

 

- Signals Department (

4/2/6//12;

4 x jeep, 1 x 0.4 ton truck)

 

- Personnel Department (5/2/11//18; 5 x jeep, 2 x 0.4 t truck)

 

- Quartermaster Department (10/9/13//32; 10 x jeep, 4 x 0.4 t truck)

 

- Medical Department (5/4/9//18; 5 x jeep, 2 x 0.4 t truck)

 

- Court Martial (4/2/6

//12; 4 x jeep, 1 x 0.4 ton truck)

 

 

- HQ Company (9/37/183//229)

 

- HQ Squad (2/1/7//10; 2 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- QM Squad (0/4/11//15; 1 x 0.75 t, 3 x 3 t truck, 1 x 3 t tanker truck)

 

- Medical Squad (2/2/13//17; 4 x 0.75 t ambulance, 1 x 3 t truck)

 

- Division Band (1/9/33//43; 2 x 3 t truck)

 

- Motorcycle Platoon (1/5/41//47; 1 x jeep, 18 x motorcycle, 9 x motorcycle combination)

 

- Anti-Air Platoon (1/5/21//28;

4 x 20 mm Oerlikon AA gun, 4 x 0.75 t truck

, 1 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- Anti-Tank Platoon (1/5/25//32;

4 x 47 mm Böhler AT gun, 4 x 0.75 t truck,

1 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- Quartermaster Platoon (1/6/32//39; 1 x jeep,

2 x 0.75 t truck, 12 x 3 t truck,

4 x 3 t tanker truck)

 

 

- 2 x Signals Company (one wire, one wireless; 6/26/137//169)

 

- HQ Squad (2/1/7//10; 2 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- QM Squad (0/3/8//11; 1 x 0.75 t, 4 x 3 t truck)

 

- Maintenance Squad (0/2/6; 2 x 0.75 t, 3 x 3 t truck)

 

- 4 x Signals Platoon (1/5/29//35;

4 x 1.5 t truck,

1 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

[Simon Tan]

I had a genius plan to get to the front of the queue for Packard Merlins....RusAm adopts the Packard as its official staff car.

[BansheeOne]

Type 1942 Quartermaster Battalion (48/229/987//1,264)

 

- Battalion HQ (4/1/8//13; 4 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- HQ Company (8/28/145//181)

 

- HQ Squad (2/1/7//10; 2 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- QM Squad (0/4/11//15; 1 x 0.75 t, 3 x 3 t truck, 1 x 3 t tanker truck)

 

- Medical Squad (2/2/13//17; 4 x 0.75 t ambulance, 1 x 3 t truck)

 

- Signals Platoon (1/5/29//35;

8 x 0.75 t truck,

1 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- Anti-Air Platoon (1/5/21//28;

4 x 20 mm Oerlikon AA gun, 4 x 0.75 t truck,

1 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- Mail Platoon (1/5/32//38

;

5 x jeep,

2 x motorcycle, 5 x motorcycle combination,

8 x 0.75 t truck, 2 x 3 t truck

 

- Quartermaster Platoon (1/6/32//39; 1 x jeep,

2 x 0.75 t,

12 x 3 t truck, 4 x 3 t tanker truck)

 

 

- 3 x Transport Company (one fuel; 6/26/149//181)

 

- HQ Squad (2/1/7//10; 2 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- QM Squad (0/3/8//11; 1 x 0.75 t, 3 x 3 t truck, 1 x 3 t tanker truck)

 

- Maintenance Squad (0/2/6//8; 2 x 0.75 t, 3 x 3 t truck)

 

- 4 x Transport Platoon

(1/5/32//38; 1 x jeep,

2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination,

16 x 3 t truck)

 

 

- 2 x Maintenance Company (6/40/127//173)

 

- HQ Squad (2/1/7//10; 2 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- QM Squad (0/3/8//11; 1 x 0.75 t, 3 x 3 t truck, 1 x 3 t tanker truck)

 

- 4 x Maintenance Platoon

(1/9/28//38; 1 x jeep,

2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination,

16 x 3 t truck)

 

 

- Baker Company (6/42/133//181)

 

- HQ Squad (2/1/7//10; 2 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- QM Squad (0/3/8//11; 1 x 0.75 t, 3 x 3 t truck, 1 x 3 t tanker truck)

 

- Maintenance Squad (0/2/6//8; 2 x 0.75 t, 3 x 3 t truck)

 

- 3 x Baker Platoon

(1/9/28//38; 1 x jeep,

2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination,

8 x 3 t truck)

 

- Butcher Platoon

(1/9/28//38; 1 x jeep,

2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination,

8 x 3 t truck)

[Dave Clark]

**SNIP**

 

- Baker Company (6/42/133//181)

- HQ Squad (2/1/7//10; 2 x jeep, 2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination)

 

- QM Squad (0/3/8//11; 1 x 0.75 t, 3 x 3 t truck, 1 x 3 t tanker truck)

 

- Maintenance Squad (0/2/6//8; 2 x 0.75 t, 3 x 3 t truck)

 

- 3 x Baker Platoon

(1/9/28//38; 1 x jeep,

2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination,

8 x 3 t truck)

 

- Butcher Platoon

(1/9/28//38; 1 x jeep,

2 x motorcycle, 1 x motorcycle combination,

8 x 3 t truck)

 

. . . the butcher, the baker, where's the candlestick maker?

[BansheeOne]

Damn, I knew I had forgotten somebody.

[Simon Tan]

Dont you dare underestimate the bakers....a good friend of mine was a pastry chef in Djibouti with a FFL officer's mess. They also had a corporal to run the cellar and their own P4 to go to Djibouti town for fresh supplies. Man...they lived good.

 

BTW....where is the field brothel Recreation & Entertainment Company?

Edited October 2, 2012 by Simon Tan

[BansheeOne]

Gah, the division is still bloody huge even without camp followers. I'm thinking about ways to cut it down some; an obvious target would be the regimental engineer companies, since they have no different capabilities than the ones in the divisional engineer battalion. Also could cut a company in the medical and MP battalion each for a total saving of 962 all ranks, because right now, it looks like this:

 

 

3 x Type 1942 Infantry Division (903/2,686/15,209//18,798)

 

- Division Command (63/112/524//699)

 

- 3 x Infantry Regiment (136/426/2,723//3,285)

 

- Artillery Regiment (129/420/1,953//2,502)

 

- Anti-Air Battalion (36/115/638//789)

 

- Armor Battalion (27/85/380//492)

 

- Divisional Cavalry Detachment (21/80/422//503)

 

- Engineer Battalion (36/132/767//935)

 

- Military Police Battalion (32/100/663//795)

 

- Medical Battalion (103/135/706//944)

 

- Quartermaster Battalion (48/229/987//1,264)

 

 

1 x Type 1942 Cavalry Division (746/2,408/12,470//15,624)

 

- Division Command (63/112/524//699)

 

- 4 x Cavalry Regiment (68/270/1,463//1,801)

 

- Artillery Regiment (129/420/1,953//2,502)

 

- Anti-Air Battalion (36/115/638//789)

 

- Armor Battalion (27/85/380//492)

 

- Engineer Battalion (36/132/767//935)

 

- Military Police Battalion (32/100/663//795)

 

- Medical Battalion (103/135/706//944)

 

- Quartermaster Battalion (48/229/987//1,264)

 

 

Total 3,455/10,466/58,097//72,018

 

 

Note this is mobilized strength, not yet including army troops like Guards, Rangers, heavy artillery and engineers as well as central command and logistics forces. I will do a full peacetime Army OOB next, but a point already illustrated is the 20 percent leadership personnel requirement.

Edited October 2, 2012 by BansheeOne

[TonyE]

I can`t help feeling that these formations are way too big and sluggish for alaskan terrain, also suffering from american "overstaffed and overequipped" tendencies. Unless your divisions are hardcore penal units i think you can safely reduce the MP units to a platoon per division.

[Simon Tan]

First, we neither need nor can we really deploy more than 2 divisions, 1 in Stoyanka, 1 expditionary. make them identical.

 

2x Infantry, 1x Cav Regt. (essential difference is Inf is Mot. and Cav is Mech in HT).

 

2x Tank Bn vis 1. Not Regimented. Bn HQs need more recovery, either ARV, recovery HT or wreckers.

 

Our Artillery and AA are super lavish in terms of fire control. I am wondering if this is sensible in an expeditionary model. I would retain the Arty before the AA as I believe it is able to control practically anything assigned to it.

 

I am wondering if we really need so much heavy AA in the division. The Heavy AA Batteries/Bns may well be better off as HQ troops and not divisional assets. I understand the Germans have been busy using their Flak as ersatz heavy AT guns. If we are going to bother doing that, We really should just form them up into handy dandy field batteries in under the Arty Regt.

 

Services are also very heavy. That level Medical and QM are maybe necessary for a expeditionary force but not in Stoyanka. MP needs to be slimmed down so they dont get in the way of Signals.....

 

When you add in all the Army and Corps troops in US/UK orgs, the numbers are equally boggling. Part of the problem we have is that we are reflecting these slices at Division.

 

Other regions will become Brigade commands upon activation.

Edited October 3, 2012 by Simon Tan

[Simon Tan]

Our friends from Plzen have smuggled out some recent work done under the Nazis. It is a 105mm howitzer with a split trail called the H4 for Romania. It is a little more advanced than the vz30 howitzers we have but more importantly we can mount the 76.5mm gun from the vz37 heavy AA we already build. Plus we have ammunition, including AP shot. Rather similar in many ways to the GLC's F-22 divisional gun.

 

Our Category A units should begin receiving the new 'H4' field guns/howitzers with penumatic tires 'soon'. They will get their M2 half track gun tractors at the same time.

Edited October 3, 2012 by Simon Tan

[Simon Tan]

What helmet does Russia use as standard? I am no fan of the Adrian.

[swerve]

Services are also very heavy. That level Medical and QM are maybe necessary for a expeditionary force but not in Stoyanka. MP needs to be slimmed down so they dont get in the way of Signals.....

Agreed. In Stoyanka there'll be garrison & HQ services which can provide most of what's needed. The division should only have an integral cadre to provide a skeleton for the expeditionary strength services. It can be reinforced with reservists when deployed. I'm sure there's a list of all the ex-soldiers in the Stoyanka police, & which are reliable enough to be MPs, for example.

 

And our soldiers don't expect & aren't used to that level of services. We are Russians, not British or French! Apart from field stills, our catering consists of cooking pots, & axes for cutting firewood. Oh yes, & food - usually. But our men are skilled looterforagers, & many are excellent fishermen & hunters.

Edited October 3, 2012 by swerve

[BansheeOne]

First, remember the primary mission of the divisions is to march on Moscow, since the Godless Communists™ currently have little means for large-scale landings in Russian America. Well, neither have we, but nonetheless our goal remains to land an army corps in Vladivostok to cheers, flowers, etc. pp.

 

I would like to have identical divisions, but I found this a little too forward-thing myself in this instance. Of course our manpower limitations might encourage new thoughts as we funnel former Army personnel into the new Air Force. Four divisions of one cavalry and two infantry regiments each would cut down their size considerably since we could also do away with the divisional cavalry detachments. OTOH, three divisions of 1:3 would reduce the need for divisional troops overall.

 

A closer look at population distribution and regimental areas shows that there is actually no pressing need for most of the regiments to take over local administration, as they are clustered in the more urbanized centers of the open land on the South coast, with comparatively good road and rail connections. So maybe we can afford a separate territorial administration with recruits inducted to various units of the region, and central training and replacement regiments for the divisions activated upon mobilization. This means we can in fact have extra non-deploying reserve medical and MP units; the plan so far was for those battalions to be semi-active, and split upon deployment with some part staying behind. Though I was thinking you can never have enough military police in a Russian army!

 

I'm not aware of any specialized ARVs that could be used by the armor battalions currently; OTOH, I didn't detail truck types beyond distinguishing tankers, so you can assume there are wreckers in the maintenance sub-units. Afraid we have not enough tanks for two battalions per division however, since there still has been no decision on procurement of a new type. I'm of a mind to lock all the procurement officers and sales representatives in a room with limited food, water and bucket space until a survivor winner arises. My money is on Col. Stormare, I just saw him in a movie two days ago ...

 

I admit we may have contracted some sort of American disease in staffing and equipment; our spies from the Motherland report that both the GLCs and Germans are fighting with much leaner tails (though the Soviet division HQ unsurprisingly still looks much like ours if you subtract all the commissars, party representatives and NKVD henchmen). If there are any TO&E changes, I will probably just go back to previous entries and modify them into Type 1942 a, b, and so forth rather than do it all over again though.

[Simon Tan]

I am guessing that the majority of our boys are in fact urbanized, due primarily to the growth being concentrted in the new urban industrial centers. A reasonable proportion of Russian settlers have gone 'upriver' but it is pretty difficult to recruit and tap them as manpower due to the low density. While we may like to project the idea of the hardy Russian pioneer shooting, trapping and fishing his way in the wilderness, the reality is that many have never done any of that before receiving their call up papers. There is however ample opportunity in Matsu and Kenai to do this around garrison. Indeed just last week the fire watch found itslef shooting at a bear in Wassila.

[Simon Tan]

Process my dear general. Process....it shows that General Headquarters is busy thinking about the defense of Russia and her liberation. All good things to tell the Duma and the people.When the Bolshevik sympathizers demand we spend less on defense, we can wave these thick tomes to show the studies we have done that tell us we are in fact underfunded!

 

Our 4 divisions is a long term goal. Our short term goal is to have 2 divisions, with 1 prepared for expeditionary campaigns. I am proposing we actually try and have a divisional exercise in Kenai next autumn to test our new ideas, equipments and organizations. And this Air Force. And the Navy's ability to move our equipment, if only accross the bay. We have not conducted a large scale landing exercise.....well....since the War. I recommend that we test the individual capabilities to ensure

they are not rusty.

 

Oblasts will benefit from many of the support units that they raise. Medical, Logistics, Maintenance Co.s are all going to be generally useful in support of civil authorities. We now call the MPs, Constabulary units and in the more rural oblasts they actually serve in a gendarmerie capacity. See this fine poster of the Russian Gendarme and the Canadian Mounty shaking hands......

 

Col.Stormare truly is a man of many talents and great vigor. I understand he credits it to snow baths, aquavit and stusstromming. As for our shortage of tanks....let me present you with..... * parade square of VISMODs*. For the exercise we will use BOTH battalions.

[TonyE]

Afraid we have not enough tanks for two battalions per division however, since there still has been no decision on procurement of a new type. I'm of a mind to lock all the procurement officers and sales representatives.....

 

...........

[Simon Tan]

I understimate how little there is in Kenai.How the heck are we going to land a damned division over the glorified ferry landing masquerading as a port? I am sure this is much worse than what the French and English found in Narvik. We must send someone to debrief them on their experience. This could be a total disaster, not even considering the actual results.

[swerve]

Where is Pyotr Nikolayevich Wrangel these days? Did he join us, or settle in Western Europe to be poisoned? He'd only be just over 60.

 

What about Denikin? Generals Kutepov, Miller, Rodzyanko, Verzhbitsky, Matsievsky, Krasnov, Shteifon, Molchanov, Shkuro, Bermondt-Avalov, Semyonov, Kislitsin, Dragomirov & Yudenich? Admiral Berens?

Edited October 3, 2012 by swerve

[RETAC21]

And Aleksander Vasilyevich Kolchak!

 

"After the February Revolution in 1917, the Black Sea fleet descended into political chaos. Kolchak was removed from command of the fleet in June and travelled to Petrograd. On his arrival at Petrograd, Kolchak was invited to a meeting of the Provisional Government. There he presented his view on the condition of the Russian armed forces and their complete demoralisation. He stated that the only way to save the country was to reestablish discipline and restore capital punishment in the army and navy.

During this time many organisations and newspapers with a nationalist tendency spoke of him as a future dictator. A number of new and secret organisations had sprung up in Petrograd which had as their object the suppression of the Bolshevist movement and the removal of the extremist members of the Government. Some of these organisations asked Kolchak to accept the leadership.

When the news was received by the then Naval Minister of the Provisional Government, Alexander Kerensky, he ordered Kolchak to leave immediately for America (Admiral James H. Glennon, member of American mission, headed by Senator Elihu Root invited Kolchak to go to America in order to give the American Navy Department information on Bosphorus). On 19 August 1917 Kolchak with several officers left Petrograd for Britain and the United States as a quasi-official military observer. When passing through London he was greeted cordially by the First Lord of the Admiralty, Admiral Sir John Jellicoe, who offered him transport on board a British cruiser on his way to Halifax. The journey to America proved to be unnecessary, as by the time Kolchak arrived, the US had given up the idea of any independent action in the Dardanelles. Kolchak visited the American Fleet and its ports, and decided to return to Russia via Japan."

 

And

 

"Kolchak acknowledged all of Russia's debts, returned factories and plants to their owners, granted concessions to foreign investors, dispersed trade unions, persecuted Marxists, and disbanded the soviets. Kolchak's agrarian policy was directed toward restoring private land ownership. The former Tsarist laws were restored."

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Kolchak

[Simon Tan]

Wrangel moved his yacht to Stoyanka, avoided getting rammed by a Bolshevik steamer and got posioned by his butler. We seized the Italian ship, shot the whole crew and sent their bullet riddled bodies to the Duce as proof of duty done. He sent us some excellent hams and some amarone.

Kolchak is still dead.

Denikin is retired. He was in France and is currently in New York. We have invited him to visit Stoyanka but the cold may be a bit much for his Polish bones.

Some of the old timers are around Stoyanka though many decided it was a little spartan at the time and settled in Europe and in America. Quite a few live in San Francisco these days. Others have fallen prey to the Bolsheviks and Bakunists. (heh....)

Edited October 3, 2012 by Simon Tan

[Simon Tan]

Important artillery decision point.....do we adopt the US FDC or the UK FO model? They are far superior to the old continental models.

[BansheeOne]

I'm all for constabulatory-type military police forces, especially since we have vast areas of sparsely-populated space outside the reach of our civilian police. While I found no Russian tradition to build on, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police are very inspirational for public consumption.

 

We can definitely have active and reserve divisions now instead of the previous semi-present regiments scheme, except for out-of-the-way units like the Northern regiments. It happens that with a organization of four identical divisions, 3rd Northern is surplus anyway; I have this idea to turn them into an experimental unit for airborne operations which seem to have become fashionable, but am somewhat hampered in execution by the fact that there is no operational airbase out on the East coast yet. We may have to make do with floatplanes for the time being.

 

OTOH, Igor recently demonstrated this flying carpet beater of his he calls a helicopter, and insists we could use some of the R-4 production model currently under construction to improve on the autogyros in the army aviation company for spotting duties. The thing is actually kind of neat for liaison purposes in our terrain, since it doesn't even need a body of water to touch down somewhere, just a moderately flat and open space. Unfortunately even the R-4 will carry only two persons, though Igor claims the technology is scalable given some time.

 

Anyway, first draft of Army OOB with rough peacetime and mobilized strengths. I deleted the engineer companies in the infantry regiments and gave the armor battalions a fourth tank company as a compromise:

 

 

Army High Command **** (Junograd; 47,300/141,700)

 

- Army HQ (Junograd; 300/400)

- Signals Regiment Army High Command (semi-present; 1,900/2,800)

- 1st Guards Regiment (semi-present; 1,300/3,100)

- 1st Guards Cossack Squadron (semi-present; 100/300)

- 1st Northern Ranger Regiment (semi-present, Nome; 900/2,300)

- 3nd Northern Ranger Regiment (semi-present, formerly 3rd Northern Infantry, Kuskokwim: 900/2,300)

 

 

1st Russian American Army Corps

***

(Stoyanka; 26,200/72,800)

 

- Corps HQ (200/200)

- 1st Army Aviation Company (200/200)

- 1st Signals Battalion (semi-present; 600/900)

- 1st Quartermaster Regiment (semi-present, formerly 8th Stoyanka Cavalry; 1,200/3,200)

- 5th

Krasiviyebyeryeg

a Heavy Engineer Regiment (semi-present; 1,100/2,800)

- 11th Stoyanka Heavy Artillery Regiment (semi-present; 1,000/3,100)

 

1st Division

**

(Stoyanka; 15,600/15,600)

- 1st Division Command (700/700)

- 1st + 2nd Stoyanka Infantry Regiment (6,200/6,200)

- 5th Stoyanka Cavalry Regiment (1,800/1,800)

- 9th Stoyanka Artillery Regiment (2,500/2,500)

- 1st Anti-Air Battalion (800/800)

- 1st Armor Battalion (600/600)

- 1st Engineer Battalion (900/900)

- 1st Medical Battalion (900/900)

- 1st Quartermaster Battalion (1,200/1,200)

 

2nd Division (Reserve) **

(Kenai; 0/15,600)

- 2nd Division Command

(0/700)

- 1st Kenai + 1st Matanuska-Susitna Infantry Regiment (0/6,200)

- 2nd Kenai Cavalry Regiment (0/1,800)

- 3rd Matanuska-Susitna Artillery Regiment (0/2,500)

-

2nd

Anti-Air Battalion (0/800)

-

2nd

Armor Battalion (0/600)

-

2nd

Engineer Battalion (0/900)

-

2nd

Medical Battalion (0/900)

-

2nd

Quartermaster Battalion (0/1,200)

 

3nd Division **

(

Krasiviyebyeryeg

a; 6,300/15,600)

- 3rd Division Command

(semi-present;

500/700

)

- 1st + 2nd

Krasiviyebyeryeg

a Infantry Regiment (one reserve; 3,100/6,200)

- 6th Stoyanka Cavalry Regiment (semi-present; 1,100/1,800)

- 4th

Krasiviyebyeryeg

a Artillery Regiment (semi-present; 1,000/2,500)

- 3rd Anti-Air Battalion (reserve; 0/800)

- 3rd Armor Battalion (reserve; 0/600 )

- 3rd Engineer Battalion (reserve; 0/900)

- 3rd Medical Battalion (reserve; 0/900)

- 3rd Quartermaster Battalion (semi-present; 600/1,200)

 

4th Division (Reserve) **

(

Stoyanka

; 0/15,600)

- 4th Division Command

(700/700)

- 3rd + 4th

Stoyanka

Infantry Regiment (0/6,200)

- 7th Stoyanka Cavalry Regiment (0/1,800)

- 10th

Stoyanka

Artillery Regiment (0/2,500)

-

4th

Anti-Air Battalion (0/800)

-

4th

Armor Battalion (0/600)

-

4th

Engineer Battalion (0/900)

-

4th

Medical Battalion (0/900)

-

4th

Quartermaster Battalion (1,200/1,200)

 

 

Territorial Army Command

***

(Junograd; 15,700/59,700)

 

- Territorial Army Command HQ (co-located with Army High Command; 200/200)

 

Central Command

**

(Stoyanka

; 5,500/16,100

)

- Central Command HQ (100/200)

- 5th Signals Battalion (900/900)

- 1st Security Battalion (reserve; 0/900)

- 1st + 2nd Military Police Battalion (one reserve; 800/1,600)

- 1st + 2nd Training and Replacement Regiment (reserve; 0/8,000)

- 2nd Quartermaster Regiment (3,200/3,200)

- Central Military Hospital (300/900)

- Central Military Court and Prison (200/400)

 

Northern Command

**

(

Krasiviyebyeryeg

a

; 2,600/10,900

)

- Northern Command HQ (100/200)

- 6th Signals Battalion (semi-present; 400/900)

- 2nd Security Battalion (reserve; 0/900)

- 4th Military Police Battalion (semi-present; 400/800)

- 4th Training and Replacement Regiment (reserve; 0/4,000)

- 2nd Quartermaster Regiment (semi-present; 1,200/3,200)

- Northern Military Hospital (300/900)

- Northern Military Court and Prison (200/400)

 

Southern Command

**

(Kenai

; 2,600/10,900

)

- Southern Command HQ (100/200)

- 7th Signals Battalion (semi-present; 400/900)

- 3rd Security Battalion (reserve; 0/900)

- 5th Military Police Battalion (semi-present; 400/800)

- 5th Training and Replacement Regiment (reserve; 0/4,000)

- 3rd Quartermaster Regiment (semi-present; 1,200/3,200)

- Southern Military Hospital (300/900)

- Southern Military Court and Prison (200/400)

 

Western Command

**

(Junograd

; 2,200/10,900

)

- Western Command HQ (co-located with Territorial Army Command; 100/200)

- 8th Signals Battalion (reserve; 0/900)

- 4th Security Battalion (reserve; 0/900)

- 6th Military Police Battalion (semi-present; 400/800)

- 6th Training and Replacement Regiment (reserve; 0/4,000)

- 4th Quartermaster Regiment (semi-present)

- Western Military Hospital (300/900; 1,200/3,200)

- Western Military Court and Prison (200/400)

 

Eastern Command

**

(

Kuskokwim; 2,600/10,900

)

- Western Command HQ (100/200)

- 8th Signals Battalion (semi-present; 400/900)

- 5th Security Battalion (reserve; 0/900)

- 7th Military Police Battalion (semi-present; 400/800)

- 7th Training and Replacement Regiment (reserve; 0/4,000)

- 5th Quartermaster Regiment (semi-present; 1,200/3,200)

- Eastern Military Hospital (300/900)

- Eastern Military Court and Prison (200/400)

 

 

Unsurprisingly, the creation of a Territorial Command adds 50 percent to the peacetime target strength of 30,000. Mobilized strength looks to high, too. We will have to think of something different.

Edited October 3, 2012 by BansheeOne