bojan Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Country of origin:( a ) - USA( b ) - Belgium( e ) - UK( č ) - Czechoslovakia( n ) - Germany( š ) - Spain( m ) - Hungary( au ) - Austro-Hungary or Austria( s ) - USSR or Russia( f ) - FranceDagger M51 (standard bayonet)Pistol 7.62mm M57 (local TT copy) 7.62x25mmPistol 7.62mm Mauser M96 (n) - Mauser C-96 7.62x25mmPistol 7.62mm TT M30 (s) - Tokarev 1930 7.62x25mmPistol 7.62mm TT M30/33 (s) - Tokarev 1933 7.62x25mmPistol 7.65mm Beretta M40 (i) - Beretta 1935 .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm Beretta M15/19 (i) - Beretta 1915/19 .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm Browning M09 ( b ) - FN 1910 .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm Elbar (f) - one of Ruby models .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm Mauser (n) - Mauser 1914 .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm Mauser M27 (n) - Mauser HSc .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm Parabelum M08 (n) 7.65x21mm LugerPistol 7.65mm SACM (f) - Mle1935S 7.65mm FrenchPistol 7.65mm Steyr (n) - Steyr-Pieper 1908/34 .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm Walther M27 (n) - PP .32 ACPAutomatic pistol 7.65mm M61 (č) - Scorpion .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm M70 .32 ACPPistol 8mm Steyr (n) - Roth-Steyr 1907, 8mm SteyrPistol 9mm Astra M400 (š) 9x19mmPistol 9mm Browning M10/22 - FN 1922 .380 ACPPistol 9mm Herstal ( b ) - FN HP-35 9x19mmPistol 9mm Colt M1911 (a) - unknown, possibly Colt .38 Super AutoPistol 9mm Llama (š) 9x19..Pistol 9mm Parabelum M08 (n) 9x19mmPistol 9mm Star (š) - Star B 9x19mmPistol 9mm Steyr M12 (n) - Steyr 1912 9x19mmPistol 7.65mm Zbrajovka M27 (č) CZ-27 .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm Zbrajovka M27 with long barrel and silencer (č) .32 ACPPistol 9mm Zbrajovka M38 (č) CZ-38 .380 ACPPistol 9mm Walther M38 (n) - P-38 9x19mmAutomatic pistol 9mm Ingram M11 (a) .380 ACPPistol 11.25mm Colt M1914 (unknown origin) - Norwegian Colt, .45 ACPPistol 11.43mm Colt M1911A1 (a) .45 ACPRevolver sa prigusivacem 7.62mm Nagant M14 (s) - silenced NagantRevolver 7.62mm Nagant M95 (s)Revolver 9mm Colt (a) - Colt Police Positive, .38 S&WRevolver 9mm Webley (e) - Webley Mk.IV and Enfield No.2 in .38-200/.38 S&WRevolver 9.64mm Colt (a) - Colt Army Special/Official Police/Commando .38 SpecialRevolver 9.64mm Smith-Wesson (a) S&W M&P .38 SpecialPistol, signal 26mm (s)Pistol, signal 26mm (n)Pistol, signal 26mm (i)Pistol, signal 26mm M57Pistol, signal 26mm with double barrels (n)Pistol, signal 26mm (au)Pistol signal 26mm (a)Pistol signal, 26mm Yugoslavian - pre-ww2Pistol signal 26mm ( b )Pistol signal 26mm (č)SMG 11.43mm Thompson M1A1 (a)SMG 11.43mm Thompson M1 (a)SMG 11.43mm Thompson M1928A1 (a)SMG 7.62mm M49/57SMG 7.62mm M56SMG 7.62mm PPD M40 (s)SMG 7.62mm PPSh M41 (s)SMG 9mm Steyr M41 (au) - Steyr MP-34SMG 9mm MP-5A2 (n)SMG 9mm MP-5A3 (n)Carbine 7.62mm M44 (s) - Mosin-Nagant M44 carbineCarbine 7.62mm M44 w/o bayonet (s)Carbine 7.62mm M38 (s) Mosin-Nagant M38 carbineRifle 7.62mm M91/30 (s) - Mosin Nagant M91/30Rifle 7.62mm M91 (s) - Mosin-Nagant M91Rifle, sniper 7.62mm M91/30 w/o bayonet mount (s)Rifle 7.9mm M48Rifle 7.9mm M24Rifle 7.9mm M24/47 (č)Rifle, sniper 7.9mm M98/48 (n)Rifle 7.9mm M98/48 (n)Rifle 7.9mm M98 (n)Rifle, sniper 7.9mm M69Automatic rifle 7.62mm AVT M40 (s) - Tokarev AVT-40Semi-auto rifle, sniper 7.62mm SVT M42 (s) - Tokarev SVT-40 with scopeSemi-auto rifle 7.62mm SVT M40 (s)Semi-auto rifle 7.62mm M59Semi-auto rifle 7.62mm M59/66Semi-auto rifle, sniper 7.9mm M76Semi-auto rifle 7.9mm Mauser M41 (n) - Mauser G41MSemi-auto rifle 7.9mm Mauser M43 (n) - Mauser G43Semi-auto rifle, sniper 7.9mm Mauser M43 (n) - Scoped G43 Automatic rifle 7.62mm M70Automatic rifle 7.62mm M70AAutomatic rifle 7.62mm M70B1Automatic rifle 7.62mm M70AB1Automatic rifle 7.62mm M70AB2Automatic rifle 7.62mm M70B1N-PN - with night sightAutomatic rifle, sniper 7.62mm G3 SG/1Semi-auto heavy rifle 14.5mm PTRS M41 (s)Heavy rifle 14.5mm PTRD M41 (s)Machinegun 7.62mm Browning M1919 (a)Machinegun 7.9mm Browning M1919 (a)Machinegun 7.62mm PKMB (s)Machinegun 7.9mm M53 on tripod M42Machinegun 7.9mm M42 on tripod M52 (n)Machinegun 7.9mm Fiat M35 (i)Heavy machinegun 12.7mm Browning M2HB on tripod M3 (a)Heavy machinegun 12.7mm Browning M2HB on mount M63 (a)Heavy machinegun 12.7mm DShK M38 (s)Rifle-machinegun (aka LMG/aka SAW) 7.62mm DP M26 (s)Rifle-machinegun 7.62mm DT (s)Rifle-machinegun 7.62mm DT w/o bipod (s)Rifle-machinegun 7.62mm DTM (s)Rifle-machinegun 7.62mm Kalasnikov (s) - RPKRifle-machinegun 7.62mm M72B1Rifle-machinegun 7.62mm M72AB1Rifle-machinegun 7.62mm M72B1N-PN - with night sightRifle-machinegun 7.9mm M53Rifle-machinegun 7.9mm Šarac M34 (n) - MG-34Rifle-machinegun 7.9mm Šarac M42 (n) - MG-42Rifle-machinegun 7.9mm Zbrajovka M26 (č) - ZB-26Rifle-machinegun 7.9mm Zbrajovka M30 (č) - ZB-30Rifle-machinegun 7.9mm Zbrajovka M36 (č) - ZB-37Obsolete weapons:SMG 9mm Beretta M35/38 (i)SMG 9mm Beretta M38 (i)SMG 9mm Beretta M38/42 (i)SMG 9mm Beretta M40 (i)SMG 9mm Beretta M41/42 (i)SMG 9mm M40 (n) - MP-40SMG 9mm Shmeiser M28 (n) - MP-28SMG 9mm Sten Mk.II (e)SMG 9mm Sten Mk.III (e)SMG, silenced 9mm Sten Mk.IIS (e)SMG Tanos 9mm (a) - United Defense UD-42SMG, paratrooper 7.9mm M43 (n) - StG-44Machinegun 8mm Breda M37 (i)Machinegun 7.62mm Maxim M10/30Machinegun 7.62mm Maxim M10Pistol 9mm Radom-WiS M35 (p)Pistol 7.65mm FAB (i) - Frommer 1910 .32 ACP captured from ItaliansPistol 7.65mm M37 (m) - Femaru 1937 .32 ACPPistol, silenced 7,65mm (e) - Welrod .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm Praga (č) - Praga 1919 .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm Sanera (š) - Ruby version .32 APCPistol 7.65mm Saurer (n) - Sauer 1938 .32 ACPPistol 7.65mm FAB M10 (m) - Frommer 1910 .32 ACPPistol 9mm Fromer M10 (m) - Frommer 1910 .380 ACPPistol 9mm Pregner M37 (m) - Femaru 1937 .380 ACPRevolver 9mm Astra (š) - Astra 300 .380 ACPRevolver 9mm Gaser (n) - Gaser Kropatschek 1876, 9mm GasserRevolver 8mm Steyr M98 (au) - Rast-Gasser 1898, 8mm GasserRevolver 7.5mm Nagant M91 - Serbian Nagant 1891List is actually much reduced compared to similar inventory list from '60s... Beat this. But I suspect that Fins or Norwegians could... Edited January 1, 2015 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Tucan Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Wow... Indeed.Even bigger mess than Czechoslovakian army post-war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon6 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Jesus what a job lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) I see your inventory and raise it with the Spanish inventory of 1960: Fusiles = riflesMosquetones = carabinesSubfusiles = SMGAmetralladoras = machine-gunsmorteros = mortarsCañones = guns campaña = field infanteria = infantry contracarro = anti-tank antiaereos = AA costa = coastCarros = tanksLanzagranadas = recoiless guns Fusiles de 7 mm 111.895Fusiles de asalto CETME de 7,62 mm 6.084Fusiles de varias marcas de 7,92 mm. 63.675 - several makes!Mosquetones de varias marcas de 7,92 mm 455.280 - several makes!Fusiles ametralladores de varias marcas de 7,92 mm 10.453Subfusiles de varias marcas de 9 mm 28.742Pistolas de varios tipos 94.125Ametralladoras de 7,62 mm. (calibre 30) 451Ametralladoras de 7,92 mm 6.011Ametralladoras antiaéreas de 12/70 mm. AN-M2 y M3 266Ametralladoras antiaéreas de 12/70 mm. AN-M2 y M56 99Ametralladoras antiaéreas de 15/93 mm. ZB-60 246Ametralladoras antiaéreas de 20/65 mm. Breda 117Ametralladoras antiaéreas de 20/65 mm. Flack 102Ametralladoras antiaéreas de 20/70 mm. Oerlikon 236Ametralladoras antiaéreas de 20/70 mm. O. K. N 377Morteros de 50 mm. Valero 4.005Morteros de 50 mm. ECIA 1.893Morteros de 81 mm. Valero 2.278Morteros de 81 mm. Valero-ECIA 608Morteros de 120 mm. Franco 71Cañones contracarro de 45/44 mm. (37) 187Cañones contracarro de 45/44 mm. (41) 524Cañones contracarro de 60/45 mm 120Cañones contracarro de 60/50 mm 144Cañones contracarro de 75/46 mm 1531Cañones de Infantería de 75/13 mm 350iCañones de Infantería de 75 mm. S. R 138:Cañones de Infantería de 106 mm. S. R 125Cañones de campaña de 75/22 mm 247Cañones de campaña de 77/24 mm. (dos montajes) 96¡Cañones de campaña de 77/32 mm 66Cañones de campaña de 105/11 mm. 470Cañones de campaña de 105/22 mm 211Cañones de campaña de 105/26 mm. (R. 43) 276Cañones de campaña de 105/26 mm. (R. 50) 264Cañones de campaña de 105/28 mm 103Cañones de campaña de 105/30 mm 272Cañones de campaña de 105 mm. (37) A. P 28Cañones de campaña de 122/46 mm 174Cañones de campaña de 149,1/24 mm 98Cañones de campaña de 155/13 mm 152Cañones de campaña de 155/23 mm 64Cañones de campaña de 155/23 mm. A. P 12Cañones de campaña de 203/25 mm 18Cañones de campaña de 240/14 mm 29Cañones de campaña de 305/17 mm 8Cañones antiaéreos de 37/56 mm. ... 6Cañones antiaéreos de 40/60 mm. (fijos) 3Cañones antiaéreos de 40/60 mm. (móviles) 10Cañones antiaéreos de 40/70 mm. (ayuda) 90Cañones antiaéreos de 40/70 mm. (españoles) 97Cañones antiaéreos de 75/36 mm. K 89Cañones antiaéreos de 88/45 mm 4Cañones antiaéreos de 88/56 mm. (18) 52Cañones antiaéreos de 88/56 mm. (36) 88Cañones antiaéreos de 88/56 mm. (44) 204Cañones antiaéreos de 90/50 mm 116Cañones antiaéreos de 105/43 mm 44Cañones de costa de 76,2/50 mm. W 4Cañones de costa de 100/45 mm. G. L 12Cañones de costa de 101,6/45 mm. W 12Cañones de costa de 102/45 mm. A 3Cañones de costa de 105,6/50 mm. W 3Cañones de costa de 120/38 mm. Sch 4Cañones de costa de 120/40 mm. L. G 2Cañones de costa de 120/45 mm. Sch 27Cañones de costa de 120/48 mm. W 4Cañones de costa de 150/40 mm 3Cañones de costa de 150/45 mm. M 56Cañones de costa de 150/45 mm. R. K 14Cañones de costa de 150/50 mm. G. R 7Cañones de costa de 152,4/50 mm. W 150Cañones de costa de 260/35 mm. Krupp 4Cañones de costa de 305/35 mm. Krupp 4Cañones de costa de 305/50 mm. W 16Cañones de costa de 381/45 mm. W 17Carros M-24 31Carros M-41 32Carros M-47 158Carros ligeros semioruga 12Lanzagranadas de 88/9 mm 7.937 Edited July 11, 2012 by RETAC21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 ...raise you Yugo inventory 90s.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) I am actually puzzled by lack of some well known weapons on the list - MP-5 (in use since 1978-79), G-3SG-1 (1981-82).'90s inventory actually dropped down from 1985. - a lot of weapons was scrapped in 1988-89, some was sold (mostly in Africa), some pistols were sold to civilians (father's friend got mint S&W Model 10 that way). Only new things introduced were: Introduced in 1985 (list above was actually compiled in 1983-84):Machinegun 7.62mm M84 (PKMS)Machinegun 12.7mm M87 (NSV)Rifle-machinegun 7.62mm M84 (PKM)Automatic pistol 7.65mm M84 (local priduction of Scorpion)1986:SMG 5.56mm M851990:SMG 5.6mm MGV-176 (few were in police HRT use for a short time period) Edited July 11, 2012 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I think Finnish inventory after Winter War was quite similar...but no..not gonna get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vuk Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I love these kind of lists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Now, now Sardaukar - we will now start detailing a list of Finnish official inventory weapons immediately post WWII, color Rolodex cross referencing year of adoption with local and foreign designations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I love these kind of lists! I rarely say this. But I mean it. You SCARE me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW Collins Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Wow. And I thought it was the Soviets who never threw anything out. I mean German G41s, seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Until recently (decade), you'd be surprised how much of that was still on the books, and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Wow. And I thought it was the Soviets who never threw anything out. I mean German G41s, seriously? Hey, it used standard ammo (7.92x57mm).. Good for some territorial defense force in middle of nowhere... Really, unless shit hit a fan in way of war with Soviets/Warsaw pact most of those weapons would never see light of day - for sure most did not get used during '90s or were used very sporadically.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think Finnish inventory after Winter War was quite similar...but no..not gonna get there At least we did not expect to arm half of army* with Mosins and Suomis in '80s... *Well, army was reasonably equiped, by mid '80s all infantry units had M70s (AKs), M59/66 were still in use in artillery and 2nd line units. Teritorial defence was mixed bag, those in parts of Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia and Slovenia bordering WP nations were reasonably equiped, including army standard coms. Bosnia was massive warehouse, but in all warplans if it came to fighting in Bosnia and cavalry (NATO) did not arrive only (realistic) plan was partisan warfare as in WW2. When everything that could shot would be issued to population, hence needed and stockpiled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Tucan Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Note from CZ: Army depots still apparently contain a lot of vz.26/30 LMGs and vz.37 HMGs, they were supposed armament for the fortification right post war and just stayed int he storage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Because I can't stomach the horrible russian accented english (sounds like Tommy Wiseau), I switched the language settings in BF3 to spanish. If I'm ever in a fix in latin america, I'll know what to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawes Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Quite a few M48's, M24/47's, and M59/66's made it to the surplus market in the US. Many appear to be in almost unissued condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 And most probably were unissued, except periodical checks and proof firing. M48s were produced till 1965 IIRC while army was fully equipped with those replacing all other rifles issues* by 1957-58, most of post 1958 production going straight to storage.M59 was relatively low production, M59/66 was kept in production after production of M70 (AK) started in 1970** as it was considered better for Territorial Defense. Production lasted until IIRC mid-70s. * Except single mech infantry brigade which used Garands 1956-1960something and single para brigade which used StG44.** Before M70 there was M64 which was never accepted for service even if at least two brigades had it issued for trials. They disappeared after introduction of M70 - IIRC refurbished and sold to Ethiopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawes Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 From outward appearance, the M59/66 seems more solidly built than SKS's from other nations, although I'm told that the Yugoslav versions don't have chrome-lined barrels. Because of this, some US shooters/collectors pass them by in favor of Russian or Chinese SKS models. It's a shame because they can be quite nice guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Werb Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) On the Yugo list one piece of strangeness is a 7,9mm Browning M1919. How did that one come about. On the Spanish list, it seems strange that almost all the light anti aircraft inventory (above 20mm) was modern (either Spanish or Swedish manufactured 40mm L70). I also thought that Spain had both the US M117 and M118 90mm HAA guns in service in this period. Edited July 21, 2012 by Chris Werb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 On the Yugo list one piece of strangeness is a 7,9mm Browning M1919. How did that one come about.Locally reworked guns. 1919s on M47 Pattons were in 7.92x57mm since mid-70s, I guess infantry ones were also reworked then, but those were not a priority as M1919 was only expected to be used by Territorial Defense while M47 was in front lines until mid-80s, so some in 30-06 stayed available... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Werb Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Given that a lof of older AFVs saw service (M18, M36, T34/85) how come (to my knowledge) no M47s were used in the subsequent fighting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) M47s were used by Croats in Dalmatia and later Bosnia Muslims, there was even "duel" between Bosnian M47 and Serbian SU-100 (eded with both sides missing and retreating). M47s and M18 were declared obsolete for regular service* and were part of airfield defense units, island defenses (Vis had some IIRC) and cities Territorial Defense (TO), Belgrade TO had IIRC 31 (~10 actually operational, rest were intended to be enplaced in positions).. until 1994-95. *T-34/85 were next, they were actually sent to storages in late 1980. Actual retirement happened 1995-96. M36 were not considered for retirement. M7 Priests were also still in storage in 1991. but none knows for sure what happened to them - since they were probably located only in Serbia and Macedonia thise probably got scrapped w/o much fuss. Edited September 7, 2012 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandro_ Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Bojan, do you know how many SU-100 were received by Yugoslavia and how long they were operated? I have been trying to find info or pictures but nothing so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 IIRC 60something (65 IIRC, 5 x 12 vehicle Bde Group and few training) in 1962. or 1963. Just as T-34/85 we had to get those in order to get T-54/55...Some saw combat in Bosnia but just as M47 and M18 those were from airfield defense units and such. My guess is that those were retired from active service in 1988-89 when whole army was being restructured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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