Female Warriors

[Brian Kennedy]

A civilization that sends it's girls to war isn't serious about either war or civilization. S/F....Ken M

 

I think the Soviets were pretty serious about WW2. Also, Israel.

Edited July 4, 2017 by Brian Kennedy

[sunday]

Thus Israelis no longer put females in the front lines.

[Adam Peter]

Thus Israelis no longer put females in the front lines.

 

Caracal Battalion engaged in combat on September 21, 2012 on the Egyptian border, following the infiltration of a group of terrorists. Responding to a radio report of the attack, in a fire-fight a female Caracal infantry soldier killed a terrorist, who was wearing a Suicide Belt.

In October 2014, a jeep of the battalion was attacked by militants from the Egyptian border with gunfire and an anti-tank missile. Two soldiers were injured. One of the injured, female officer, Captain Or Ben-Yehuda, nonetheless dismounted from the jeep and returned fire killing one militant in the fire-fight.

[EchoFiveMike]

 

A civilization that sends it's girls to war isn't serious about either war or civilization. S/F....Ken M

 

I think the Soviets were pretty serious about WW2. Also, Israel.

 

 

At the risk of being pedantic, there's a major difference between sending your girls off to war, which is what we do, and the war coming to them, as was the case for the Sovs and Israelis. The US hasn't faced an existential threat since 1814. Well, save for the demographic crisis from all our chicks getting educated and shit, so they stop making American babies, and our amoral business class, and straight up treacherous progressive class brings in foreign invaders under the guise of needing more "labor." S/F....Ken M

Edited July 5, 2017 by EchoFiveMike

[sunday]

 

Thus Israelis no longer put females in the front lines.

 

Caracal Battalion engaged in combat on September 21, 2012 on the Egyptian border, following the infiltration of a group of terrorists. Responding to a radio report of the attack, in a fire-fight a female Caracal infantry soldier killed a terrorist, who was wearing a Suicide Belt.

In October 2014, a jeep of the battalion was attacked by militants from the Egyptian border with gunfire and an anti-tank missile. Two soldiers were injured. One of the injured, female officer, Captain Or Ben-Yehuda, nonetheless dismounted from the jeep and returned fire killing one militant in the fire-fight.

 

 

Ah, that...

 

 

 

JERUSALEM — One of her fellow soldiers lay dead, and her Humvee was being fired upon. She saw one of the attackers — three armed men who had penetrated Israel’s border with Egypt — reach toward his waist. Fearing he was about to detonate a suicide belt, she fired two shots at his head.

 

“Once you come face to face, at that very moment, you don’t think twice,” the soldier, who can be identified under military rules only as S., told the Israeli news site Ynet when she received a citation for her performance in the skirmish. “There is no room for hesitation, and there is no room for mistakes.”

 

The Israeli news media heralded S. as proof that integrating women into combat roles had been a success. But the next day, the story shifted: Another woman in the unit, the one who radioed in the attack, had cowered behind a bush for an hour and a half, as her comrades feared she had been kidnapped or killed.

 

As the United States moves to integrate more women into combat roles, some have looked to Israel, which on paper has one of the most gender-neutral militaries in the world, starting with a universal draft (although, since many do civilian service instead, only half of women enlist, compared with 70 percent of the nation’s men). But the episode near Mount Harif in September highlighted some of the complex realities behind the policies of the Israel Defense Forces, where it remains rare for women to kill or be killed, and questions persist about their fitness.

 

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(source)

 

Then:

 

 

Military traditionalists say women’s combat roles in the Israel Defense Forces are exaggerated by advocates in the U.S., noting as an example a recent IDF decision to keep Israeli women from serving on main battle tanks.

 

As the U.S. military prepares to open most, if not all, infantry, armor and special operations units to women, activists often point to the IDF as an illustration of a military in which women are thriving in ground combat units.

 

But a closer look shows Israeli women are not in direct combat special operations such as the Green Berets. Nor are they in front-line combat brigades mobilized to engage in direct heavy combat.

 

In the infantry, virtually all of Israel’s female combat soldiers are confined to two light battalions — the Caracal and the Lions of Jordan — which are assigned to guard the borders with Egypt and Jordan, the only Arab countries that have peace treaties with Israel.

 

“Uniformed Israeli women patrol the borders or help to train men for combat positions, but these important missions do not involve direct ground combat, meaning deliberate offensive action against the enemy,” said Elaine Donnelly, who heads the Center for Military Readiness. “None of America’s allies, much less potential adversaries, are treating women like men in the combat arms.”

 

Israeli women’s assignments are far more restrictive than the roles envisioned by advocates in the United States who anticipate an American military that opens all ground combat units to women, be they Navy SEALs or Army Green Berets or the Marine infantry or Army Brigade Combat Teams. All are deployed to engage in tough, close-in fighting for hours and days at a time.

 

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(source)

 

Finally: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/181604

 

 

[Simon Tan]

The Lionesses of Defence Tank Battalion of the Syrian Republican Guard.

 

Edited July 5, 2017 by Simon Tan

[Panzermann]

The Lionesses of Defence Tank Battalion of the Syrian Republican Guard.

 

 

How do they do in the current unpleasantness?

[Adam Peter]

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, I have lost you at "but these important missions do not involve direct ground combat, meaning deliberate offensive action against the enemy," Too much Trumpian Alternative Realities Error.

[sunday]

 

 

 

Thus Israelis no longer put females in the front lines.

 

 

Sorry, I have lost you at "but these important missions do not involve direct ground combat, meaning deliberate offensive action against the enemy," Too much Trumpian Alternative Realities Error.

 

Excuse me, but what kind of argument is this?

[shep854]

 

 

 

 

Thus Israelis no longer put females in the front lines.

Sorry, I have lost you at "but these important missions do not involve direct ground combat, meaning deliberate offensive action against the enemy," Too much Trumpian Alternative Realities Error.

Excuse me, but what kind of argument is this?

Unassailable Progressive Logic

[sunday]

Indeed. Would be easy to answer to that with "Orban won, get over it.", but this is not the FFZ.

[Adam Peter]

 

 

 

 

 

Thus Israelis no longer put females in the front lines.

Sorry, I have lost you at "but these important missions do not involve direct ground combat, meaning deliberate offensive action against the enemy," Too much Trumpian Alternative Realities Error.

Excuse me, but what kind of argument is this?

Unassailable Progressive Logic

 

 

Reasoning with redefinition of meaning of words - like newborn Christians do with the word "love". So now we know direct ground combat means deliberate offensive, and guards in warzones not expected to do that.

 

Wait, she deliberately counter-attacked!

 

Therefore a counter-attack is not an offensive - yet another redefinition.

 

Regarding Orban, he has been cut from the same material as Trump has been cut, he was miles first to foresee and greet the new US president. Both like alternative realities, but neither of them is female so I stop here.

[Markus Becker]

"At the risk of being pedantic, there's a major difference between sending your girls off to war, which is what we do, and the war coming to them, as was the case for the Sovs and Israelis."

 

A point well made!

[sunday]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thus Israelis no longer put females in the front lines.

Sorry, I have lost you at "but these important missions do not involve direct ground combat, meaning deliberate offensive action against the enemy," Too much Trumpian Alternative Realities Error.

Excuse me, but what kind of argument is this?

Unassailable Progressive Logic

 

 

Reasoning with redefinition of meaning of words - like newborn Christians do with the word "love". So now we know direct ground combat means deliberate offensive, and guards in warzones not expected to do that.

 

Wait, she deliberately counter-attacked!

 

Therefore a counter-attack is not an offensive - yet another redefinition.

 

Regarding Orban, he has been cut from the same material as Trump has been cut, he was miles first to foresee and greet the new US president. Both like alternative realities, but neither of them is female so I stop here.

 

 

I thought a journalist would have a better knowledge of a language he uses to write in.

 

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/front-line

 

 

front line also front-line

Word forms: plural front lines

1. countable noun

The front line is the place where two opposing armies are facing each other and where fighting is going on.

...a massive concentration of soldiers on the front line.

2. adjective [ADJECTIVE noun]

A front line state shares a border with a country that it is at war with or is in conflict with.

...the front-line states bordering South Africa.

3.

in the front line

COBUILD Advanced English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers

 

The three female Israeli Army battalions are deployed in the borders that Israel shares with states with whom Israel is at peace. So, those form part of a border protection force, and according to the definition of that English dictionary, they are not deployed at the front lines because there is not a war with the state across the line, nor there are armies facing each other, nor there is (high intensity) fighting going on.

 

If there were Israeli female front line units, then those should be line infantry, armor, special forces, airborne, etc. No frontier guards.

 

And let me repeat my congratulations to Hungary for that principled President you have.

Edited July 6, 2017 by sunday

[Roman Alymov]

Svetlana Prihod'ko, LNR Army medical service, Capitan, killed in today's terrorist attack in central Lugansk

[Dark_Falcon]

 

'That's f***ing cute': Amputee who won the heart of Prince Harry reveals she told off the royal when he complained of knee pain to the one-legged Marine on charity walk for wounded vets

• Kirstie Ennis, 26, appears on the cover of 'ESPN The Magazine' for their ninth annual Body Issue, on newsstands July 7
• In her interview, the former Marine details her first meeting with Prince Harry back in 2015, while she was walking 1000 miles to raise money for wounded vets
• Ennis, who lost her leg in a helicopter crash back in 2012 while serving in Afghanistan, said Prince Harry complained of knee pain at one point
• 'I looked over and was like, "That's f***ing cute. Really?"' said Ennis
• She and Prince Harry became fast friends after that, and Ennis came to support him when he hosted the Invictus Games in 2016

 

Edited July 9, 2017 by Dark_Falcon

[Dark_Falcon]

One more from The Great War channel on YouTube:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cndgoEd3fkk

[Roman Alymov]

One more from The Great War channel on YouTube:

 

War drama was done on this events in 2015 (title in Rus Батальонъ )

TV version, episode 1

Episode 2

Episode 3

Episode 4

[Roman Alymov]

Lyubov Karzeva, combat medic, scout, 1942.
Killed in action 23.01.1943

[Ozarks]

Throughout most of history the mortality rate for women has been higher, much higher, for women than for men. This was because of the risks associated with pregnancy a risk to which men were not subject. Nonetheless there seems to be little records of men foregoing 'their rights' for the safety of the ladies. Much of the resentment is because of male chauvinism. Macho militarism is one field men have managed to reserve as their private domain and they do not wish to surrender it.

 

How many who served in Vietnam ever noticed a conspicuous reticence on behalf of female VC to fight and die for their cause.

[toysoldier]

Throughout most of history the mortality rate for women has been higher, much higher, for women than for men. This was because of the risks associated with pregnancy a risk to which men were not subject. Nonetheless there seems to be little records of men foregoing 'their rights' for the safety of the ladies. Much of the resentment is because of male chauvinism. Macho militarism is one field men have managed to reserve as their private domain and they do not wish to surrender it.

 

How many who served in Vietnam ever noticed a conspicuous reticence on behalf of female VC to fight and die for their cause.

Communism, specially 3rd world variety, is a whole different animal.

[Roman Alymov]

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russia-now-letting-women-become-fighter-pilots-21968"Russia Is Now Letting Women Become Fighter Pilots"

[Panzermann]

What just now? I would have thought that this had already been done in the USSR?

 

 

 

 

Lyubov Karzeva, combat medic, scout, 1942.
Killed in action 23.01.1943

Oi! a PPD.

[Panzermann]

meanwhile in the UK:


Female RAF recruits paid compensation for marching injuries (the BBC)

daily heils take: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512412/Female-RAF-recruits-100-000-compensation--march-like-men.html


£100,000 compensation. How much does a wounded soldier get?

[Dark_Falcon]

What just now? I would have thought that this had already been done in the USSR?

 

 

 

 

Lyubov Karzeva, combat medic, scout, 1942.

Killed in action 23.01.1943

Oi! a PPD.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A6bYa3HgCs