Female Warriors

[seahawk]

In the end, when we still had a conscription system many that qualified as suitable with limitations, were probably a lot less fit than a many women, but they were still found useful by the armed forces.

[Roman Alymov]

Video memoirs of Ludmila Pavlechenko (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko )

https://youtu.be/tm2yraNQWqM

[Roman Alymov]

[BansheeOne]

Despite the flags, that looks like a civilian industry setting rather than "warriors" (sneakers, basecap, decidedly un-military hair).

[RETAC21]

"Lieutenant Kara Hultgreen, USN, was an EA-6A pilot based ashore who was selected to be part of the first wave of female pilots assigned to F-14 Tomcat squadrons attached to carrier air wings aboard aircraft carriers. She had a pioneer spirit but faced a number of obstacles as she joined a previously male-only environment, including the challenges of trying to land the Tomcat on "the boat." In 1994 while approaching the USS Abraham Lincoln during the daytime, her F-14 experienced a compressor stall with the left engine, a worst-case scenario. She mismanaged the emergency and the airplane flipped inverted. The radar intercept officer, LT Matt Klemish, in her backseat, initiated ejection in time to save his own life, but Kara was killed.

In this episode Ward analyzes the aeromechanics of the F-14 during single engine emergencies and reviews the "bold face" procedures - steps that must be committed to memory - that Lt. Hultgreen should have followed during the emergency situation she faced."

People may recall that this was highly controversial crash as there were testimonies that the Navy had "pushed" women into fighter cockpits to clean up house after the Tailhook scandal. Her mate Carey Lohrenz makes the point that both where bottom tier, but last of the best.

And she has leveraged that first place: https://www.speakers.com/speaker/carey-lohrenz-speaker-biography

Thoughts?

[Ssnake]

Not sure if this would be discussed had it been a male pilot. Combat jet aviation is by definition a dangerous job. Difficult decisions must be made sometimes within a few seconds. A certain percentage of cases will end fatal because the pilot made the wrong decision, or the right decision too late, or even too early.

It's the kind of job where safety is important, but does NOT come first. I'm somewhat critical of the concept of "women warriors" for the reasons already laid out (p)ages ago in this thread. I'm particularly critical of politicians, bureaucrats and equality activists that want "equal representation" in all the flashy jobs and apply ex ante metrics to check if equal outcomes have been achieved. They are doing women a massive disservice by subjecting them and the people around them to massive but hidden risks.

But this does not apply to every specialization in the military occopation spectrum. A lot of other female aviators have shown that they can handle difficult situations. Just like a lot of male fighter jocks died (and made jet aviation a bit less risky over the decades).

[BansheeOne]

On 1/16/2021 at 8:34 AM, BansheeOne said:

A German special forces reconnaissance sergeant secures a landing zone for friendly forces in an exercise.

The picture links on the Bundeswehr website don't seem to last long, but on the same topic: MSgt "Josephine Winkler", 37, one of the first female reconnaissance sergeants in the special reconnaissance company attached to the KSK. Enlisted in the artillery at age 18, first connected to SOF when female troops were wanted to search women etc. on missions during deployment to Afghanistan in 2011. In 2012 was one of 30 initial applicants in establishing a regular capability. Nine made selection for the two-year training. Looking to transfer to an instructing role soon as she says it's getting hard to keep up in her late 30s.

[futon]

 

[Markus Becker]

Onwards to Ukraine brave volunteers! 😘

 

Edited March 9, 2022 by Markus Becker

[Roman Alymov]

"Paramedic Ekaterina Ivanova rescued a wounded serviceman during the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on their ambulance. When one of the Ukrainian shells hit near the vehicle, Ekaterina covered a seriously wounded soldier who could not hide from enemy fire on his own. Thanks to her selfless act, the life of the wounded serviceman was saved. Ekaterina herself received a shrapnel wound. The ambulance reached the hospital in a timely manner, where all the wounded were treated."

[Dark_Falcon]

 

[DB]

I wish it were not necessary.

And not just for the female warriors.

[Roman Alymov]

Instant karma in action (words said on the video is something like "Russian pigs burning. It's beautyful")

https://t.me/rosich_rus/3506

[Roman Alymov]

Wrong thread

Edited April 9, 2022 by Roman Alymov
Wrong thread

[Dark_Falcon]

 

[sunday]

31 minutes ago, Dark_Falcon said:

 

Nice to known she belongs to a "demilitarized" unit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitallers_Medical_Battalion

[futon]

 

[Markus Becker]

On 4/19/2022 at 5:18 PM, sunday said:

Nice to known she belongs to a "demilitarized" unit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitallers_Medical_Battalion

Medics are allowed to carry guns to defend themselves or wounded from attacks.

[ex2cav]

Those pics of the "female warriors" are BS. Look how clean and tidy they are. No where near the front or any fighting. Propaganda to convince that everyone is involved. They are models, and models only. 

[Markus Becker]

8 hours ago, ex2cav said:

Those pics of the "female warriors" are BS. Look how clean and tidy they are. No where near the front or any fighting. Propaganda to convince that everyone is involved. They are models, and models only. 

Sort-of and sort-of not. 

The pics are obviously not taken on regular duty but as far as lovely looking ladies go, they are about as uncommon in Ukraine as AKM. 

[sunday]

Only one woman has served in the French Foreign Legion. A English lady, Susan Travers, during WWII.

There are lots in the Spanish Foreign Legion, however.

[Roman Alymov]

14 hours ago, ex2cav said:

Those pics of the "female warriors" are BS. Look how clean and tidy they are. No where near the front or any fighting. Propaganda to convince that everyone is involved. They are models, and models only. 

People (especially females) generally prefer to look good on photos, and are ready to go for some extent for it. Especially if they know it may be the last photo.

Russian advisors to SAA were mad about some Syrian solders spending a lot of time fixing their hairdress and beards to look good on selfies they were posting daily

[Yama]

On 12/28/2022 at 3:16 PM, Roman Alymov said:

Russian advisors to SAA were mad about some Syrian solders spending a lot of time fixing their hairdress and beards to look good on selfies they were posting daily

When Kabul was taken in 2001, new occupiers found dozens of photoes where Taliban fighters posed in studios, hair groomed, eyeliner carefully put on and so on...even though Taleban had banned photography.

[kokovi]

On 5/22/2021 at 1:02 PM, Ssnake said:

Not sure if this would be discussed had it been a male pilot. Combat jet aviation is by definition a dangerous job. Difficult decisions must be made sometimes within a few seconds. A certain percentage of cases will end fatal because the pilot made the wrong decision, or the right decision too late, or even too early.

It's the kind of job where safety is important, but does NOT come first. I'm somewhat critical of the concept of "women warriors" for the reasons already laid out (p)ages ago in this thread. I'm particularly critical of politicians, bureaucrats and equality activists that want "equal representation" in all the flashy jobs and apply ex ante metrics to check if equal outcomes have been achieved. They are doing women a massive disservice by subjecting them and the people around them to massive but hidden risks.

But this does not apply to every specialization in the military occopation spectrum. A lot of other female aviators have shown that they can handle difficult situations. Just like a lot of male fighter jocks died (and made jet aviation a bit less risky over the decades).

On the one hand, women can on average tolerate acceleration forces in flight slightly better than men because of their physiology. On the other hand, ejection seats need modifications because women have a different seat for the center of gravity.

[Dark_Falcon]

This isn't an easy thing to do, so give her credit:

Meet the Army’s first female active duty Abrams master gunner

Quote

Sgt. Cinthia Ramirez, assigned to Avenger Company, 1st Battalion, 12th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division, earns the title of master gunner. (Pfc. David Dumas/Army)

The first female active-duty Army soldier recently graduated from the M1A2 Abrams master gunner course at Fort Benning, Georgia, according to a news release.

Sgt. Cinthia Ramirez, 23, assigned to Avenger Company, 1st Battalion, 12th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division, completed the course earlier in December.

“I hope I can inspire many others to come and strive to be an Abrams master gunner. It’s not an easy school, but it’s not meant to [b]e. It challenges our knowledge on [our] platform, to be confident, competent and lethal leaders,” Ramirez said in a social media post.