The Insane Rationalizations, Bigotry And Out Right Hypocrisy Of The Left

[Rick]

10 minutes ago, seahawk said:

So you mean because you are a member of a "protected group" the laws do no longer count for you and freedom of speech and opinion is also limited when it comes to such groups?

 

This!

[Murph]

As usual he is not even worth responding to since he has to follow THE NARRATIVE.

[JWB]

 

[rmgill]

There is not supposed to be any control ON the 1st Amendment. 

[Wobbly Head]

Except for shouting fire in a crowded theatre rule, although they still think it shouldn't apply to them because they have a lite Molotov cocktail in their hand.

[rmgill]

2 hours ago, Wobbly Head said:

Except for shouting fire in a crowded theatre rule, although they still think it shouldn't apply to them because they have a lite Molotov cocktail in their hand.

What if there IS a fire? Can one not raise alarm as is necessary? 

There are important distinctions here. 

That is not a control, but rather expectation of punishment for an act that is designed to cause a panic. If there is in fact fire in the crowded theatre, one CAN shout fire to raise the necessary alarm. 

Theatre goers are not muzzled with gags to prevent them shouting fire, rightly or wrongly AND making any other sounds. Such would be prior restraint. 

[Burncycle360]

5 hours ago, Wobbly Head said:

Except for shouting fire in a crowded theatre rule

This is a common misconception, and it's fascinating that even high ranking officials and pundits still trot it out.  Yelling fire in a crowded theatre is protected speech under the first amendment.  What is not protected are charges stemming from the consequences of this behavior such a injuries during an ensuing panic. Should the theatre turn around and flip you off, you're not going to be charged for yelling fire.

Now, a real test would be what would happen if a white person yells the N word in a crowded theatre, located in an AO with a progressive AG.
 

[Skywalkre]

16 hours ago, Rick said:

Which certain groups are hated?

Let me quote an earlier post from R011:

On 6/26/2024 at 3:10 PM, R011 said:

There are over a million trans adults in the United States out of 330 millions Americans.  Right-Wing media is assiduously noting any time a trans offender commits a crime and so far we have perhaps a few dozen.  This doesn't look like a disproportionate crime rater.

He makes a good point, and the posting habit of some on here confirms, that it's less about the actual crime and more about who's doing it regardless of whether or not it's out of proportion to their size of the population.

There are lots of good sites out there with data on sexual assault of minors.  One thing all the sites I found reiterate is that an overwhelming majority of these assaults (around 90% or more) are made by family or someone in a position of authority whom the victim thinks they can trust.

One clear example of this was broke by the Washington Post a few weeks ago.  Their investigation showed nearly 1800 cops sexually abused children in the last decade or so.  How much play did you think that got here on TN?  Meanwhile, in the time since that story broke we've had several posts about LGTBQ+ individuals committing crimes with the insinuation or direct (and false) notion that they're a major problem.  No... the data doesn't support that despite whatever handpicked stories those out there who hate them may find.

[seahawk]

The problem is that nobody would call a cop, who sexually abused children, a protected group or would advocate to built understanding for cops wishing to abuse children. 

That is exactly what many gay activists are actually pointing out in Europe. The movement is being conquered by small, vocal minorities with extreme positions.

[Murph]

The vast number of abused children know and trust their abusers.  Usually a spouse, family member, boyfriend, girlfriend, etc.  That is a correct statement.

[rmgill]

I don’t think Skywalkre is aware of the push to have MAPs, Minor Attracted Persons, made acceptable. 

[17thfabn]

39 minutes ago, rmgill said:

I don’t think Skywalkre is aware of the push to have MAPs, Minor Attracted Persons, made acceptable. 

Is that a weird fringe group, or a broadly supported movement. I'm believing the former. 

[sunday]

4 minutes ago, 17thfabn said:

Is that a weird fringe group, or a broadly supported movement. I'm believing the former. 

Ask JK Rowling.

[rmgill]

15 minutes ago, 17thfabn said:

Is that a weird fringe group, or a broadly supported movement. I'm believing the former. 

Look at any of the pushbacks against grooming kids with drag queen story hour or other sexualized content. 

Here's one of the events. Note the sign. It's not going to lick itself.  Oh yeah, great place for kids right? 

https://rumble.com/v17jxlt-warning-graphic-neon-sign-at-drag-show-for-kids-reads-its-not-gonna-lick-it.html

 

June makes a few other videos on the subject, following up. 
 

 

Edited July 3 by rmgill

[rmgill]

And on a different angle. Here's James Lindsay on the subject...

It's a bit more complex, as it's tied in with the marxist thought that is at the center of all of this. Thats not reactionary nonsense, it's from actually looking at the lefty education literature and what they actually say. The LGB_T_ stuff is vey specifically shoved into it as part of the recipie. 
 

 

Edited July 3 by rmgill

[17thfabn]

Years ago there were jokes about some one being a member of MBLA . It was a real organization.... with maybe three members.

I think the movement you allude to is a similar type organization. 

[17thfabn]

3 hours ago, sunday said:

Ask JK Rowling.

I don't think I'll have much opportunity to do that. Was she pro or anti MBLA?

Edited July 3 by 17thfabn

[rmgill]

55 minutes ago, 17thfabn said:

Years ago there were jokes about some one being a member of MBLA . It was a real organization.... with maybe three members.

I think the movement you allude to is a similar type organization. 

The organization you dismiss is the larger body of educational professionals.  There are a great many doing drag queen story hour. I think you underestimate how far the rot has spread . 

[sunday]

Now approaching Cultural Revolution levels of vileness

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A 21-year-old who boasted about turning his father into the FBI for going to the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021 has received nearly $200,000 in donations on a GoFundMe after he said he would be using it to pay for college or "saving it for years to come." Reffitt was sentenced to the longest prison term of any of the J6ers, though the over seven years he received was longer than the 15 years the DOJ asked for. 

https://thepostmillennial.com/leftist-college-kid-turns-in-j6er-dad-then-raises-200000-on-gofundme-while-father-serves-prison-term?utm_campaign=64494

[17thfabn]

1 hour ago, rmgill said:

The organization you dismiss is the larger body of educational professionals.  There are a great many doing drag queen story hour. I think you underestimate how far the rot has spread . 

Perhaps.

How many drag queen story hours are there nationally? Are there thousands of them, or are there 10 nation wide and they are played up for all they are worth?

[rmgill]

I think you’re ignoring or discounting something based upon a poor grasp of the implications. This makes me think of the same bit of dismissiveness we saw after the Halloween costume kerfuffle at I think it was Missouri state. 
 

 

[sunday]

https://scifiwright.com/2024/07/hating-uppity-serfs/#disqus_thread

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During the discussion, genius Weinstein expressed the opinion that the Left could afford to allow democracy to operate, and let the right gain control over the congress and White House for short periods, as long as the Left retained control over the courts.

He described this as a “balance of power” and a “Mexican stand off.” The courts were to be an “upper class, cerebral thing, counter to our populist instincts.”

He then said the nasty personal attacks — to this day still called Borking — against conservative candidate for Justice were the Left’s reaction to this, and, from his tone, a rightful reaction.

I do not recall if he said so directly, but the gist of his comments was this, or, at least, this is what I took away from his comments:

There is an unwritten social contract between the enlightened elite and the unwashed masses in our democracy. The unwashed masses were allowed to vote for representatives and leaders, using their mob powers to seek out their own self interest, and maintain a social order that they were too unwise to see benefitted the rich.

The enlightened elite were to control the court system, especially the High Court, and use its constitutional authority to overrule representatives and leaders whenever the unwise mob ventured into areas that were self destructive or destructive of the rights of minorities.

He did not say so directly, but I assume here he means, for example, outlawing Jim Crow laws, enacting forced bussing, outlawing contraception, outlawing abortion, or outlawing traditional marriage (which does not allow sodomites to wed each other), all were said to be against Constitutional principles which the unwashed mob was not trustworthy to protect.

The genius further implied (or so I interpreted him) that the appointment of conservative justices by the GOP violated the unspoken agreement ruling the nation since FDR’s administration.

The compromise was broken: Trump, by carrying out the will of the people who elected him (some of which voted GOP solely and only in hope of having a conservative majority on the bench) had betrayed the agreement between Dem and GOP, and undid the harmony between elite and unwashed.

The genius explained the most smug and unfair idea imaginable: that the Supreme Court belonged to the Left as their exclusive and rightful possession and property, and the Trump was a trespasser and thief for daring to rob the Left of the justices to which the social contract entitled them.

Got that? The legal and constitutional process to which all parties were avowed to uphold and obey, and which the GOP follows religiously, the Left regards as not applying to them, not even remotely, not even as a hypothetical.

It literally would never occur to the Left that the laws which require the Right to treat Leftist candidates with respect, not to commit fraud and perjury to unseat them, do not apply to the Left.

When Knowles and Cruz ignored and dismissed this absurd argument, the man’s face grew haughty and sullen like a spoiled child. It was pathetic to see. He was not willing to admit that Borking only ever occurred on the Left. The GOP denial of hearings to confirm Garland, for example, involved no personal attacks.

I was truly aghast at the sullen pride sinking into the man’s pudgy features. It was the face of a slaveowner offended and an uppity slave.

He thought he owned us, owned our laws, and that we had no right to vote for leaders who would appoint justices to uphold the Constitution. He thought we have no right to rule ourselves. The elite are meant to rule us.

It was a sick thing to see, and I felt beslimed and disgusted to have seen it.

If you saw the same video, no doubt this man would not look any worse to you than Peter Strzok, Peter Strzok, or Nancy Pelosi. They clearly have demons behind their eyes.

But to me, he looked worse than they. They do not say aloud they thing they own us.

Weinstein did.

Not a representative Republic but an Oligarchy?

[sunday]

Then one could understand some bizarre acts like this:

Tennessee judge rules Covenant shooter's manifesto will not be officially released because of copyright law (for real)

[Murph]

NAMBLA- The umbrella child molesting group that has its own "psychologists" who "prove" that pederasty is not harmful, not its just those unenlightened parents who cause the trauma.  A completely evil organization.  

[JWB]