The Insane Rationalizations, Bigotry And Out Right Hypocrisy Of The Left

[MiloMorai]

Selective memory Ryan. How did Trump's trade war with China go and the tariffs? It was a bust that cost Americans millions of $. His lover in N Korea played him. Trump paid taxes in China. The SPR never reached max capacity and in fact decreased under Trump.

Yor forget history, "peace in our time". You would give Ukraine to Puton, 😥

Yes compared to Biden's administration, Trump's was a disaster.

 

[rmgill]

16 minutes ago, MiloMorai said:

Selective memory Ryan. How did Trump's trade war with China go and the tariffs?

Selective Memory indeed. How are things before? Fentanyl? The trade imbalance? We’ve had a member here on this very forum discussing details of the vast amount counterfeit hardware sold out of China. 

I suspect a lot of the folks upset that Trump was pushing on China were so because thats where they get their graft.

Trump was doing better that taking $10 billion in bribes from China. 
 

Selective Memory my left foot. 
 

North Korea, that was better under Obama? Biden has solved it? Hey why don’t we get Team Barbie to sort it out. Castro can play dressup. 

 

Trump was sorting out the larger issue of oil production. Not the DNC way of course. 

16 minutes ago, MiloMorai said:

Yor forget history, "peace in our time". You would give Ukraine to Puton, 😥

What did Biden say about A small invasion? It was ok with him? 

What about Obama and Russia’s first bite out of Ukraine? 

Yes. This is all Trump’s fault? How bloody imaginative…

[glenn239]

1 hour ago, MiloMorai said:

 

You forget history, "peace in our time". You would give Ukraine to Puton, 😥

 

  How many dead Canadians are you prepared to see for NATO to say otherwise?   

[glenn239]

1 hour ago, rmgill said:

What did Biden say about A small invasion? It was ok with him? 

What about Obama and Russia’s first bite out of Ukraine? 

Yes. This is all Trump’s fault? How bloody imaginative…

Trump kept the Russians out of Ukraine, under Biden everything went for a shit.  I think Biden green lighted Zelensky in 2020 for a military operation to destroy the rebels, and that the evacuation from A-stan was done with this in mind.  You can't fix stupid, but WRT Biden, you can hope for someone else to get voted in in 2024....

[MiloMorai]

1 minute ago, glenn239 said:

  How many dead Canadians are you prepared to see for NATO to say otherwise?   

Just like Hitler did, Putin is not going to stop with Ukraine.

[glenn239]

Just now, MiloMorai said:

Just like Hitler did, Putin is not going to stop with Ukraine.

Question repeated - how many dead Canadians are you prepared to see for NATO to say otherwise?

[MiloMorai]

2 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

Trump kept the Russians out of Ukraine, under Biden everything went for a shit.  I think Biden green lighted Zelensky in 2020 for a military operation to destroy the rebels, and that the evacuation from A-stan was done with this in mind.  You can't fix stupid, but WRT Biden, you can hope for someone else to get voted in in 2024....

Yup Trump did ,because Putin knew Trump would give up a democratic country.

Biden is doing a much better job than Trump. You won't believe anf fact check that tho. It is not easy fixing the mess created by Trump.

[MiloMorai]

2 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

Question repeated - how many dead Canadians are you prepared to see for NATO to say otherwise?

Is Canada part of NATO? Does Canada have an obligation to defend other NATO countries?

I bet you would have let Hitler conquer Europe.

[glenn239]

4 minutes ago, MiloMorai said:

Is Canada part of NATO? Does Canada have an obligation to defend other NATO countries?

I bet you would have let Hitler conquer Europe.

I would have taken Hitler out in 1934 when it was cheap to do.   German army would have stayed in its barracks while the Allies swept Berlin and rounded up all the Nazis and re-established the Reichstag on the way out.

What is it with the Left Wing types that they rarely meet a war they don't want to jump into, but when a simple question like, "how many dead Canadians are you prepared to see?", they are unable to answer the question directly?  

Edited August 14, 2023 by glenn239

[MiloMorai]

So you would have taken Putin out 20 years ago?

As many Canadians and others NATO soldiers it takes to preserve freedom. The military is there to fight not to do pretty parades.

[glenn239]

7 minutes ago, MiloMorai said:

Yup Trump did ,because Putin knew Trump would give up a democratic country.

Putin did not invade Ukraine because Trump wasn't stupid enough to get into bed too far with Zelensky.  Trump understood exactly what Zelensky was all about and why he needed to be treated warily.  Biden was different, he reversed course instantly, almost as if he had some sort of pre-existing arrangement with Zelensky.  

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Biden is doing a much better job than Trump. You won't believe anf fact check that tho. It is not easy fixing the mess created by Trump.

Under Biden Ukraine is being destroyed and I would not be surprised if 150,000 good Ukrainian kids are now dead due to Blinken's idiocy.  Under Trump Ukraine was intact and 0 kids were dead.  When you say something so absurd on its face that Biden is doing the better job, when in fact in Ukraine Biden's policy is a total disaster compared to Trump's, the message you are really intending to send is that talk is useless, the lines are drawn.  

Speaking of that, the part I find funny with reading, say, Ryan trying to talk to you is that I almost think that Ryan believes Canadians of the left can be reasoned with by Trump supporters.  But I would say from my experience of those I know people in Canada that this is not the case.  Many I see as having crossed a line and are now prepared to go along with anything against Trump voters. 

[glenn239]

10 minutes ago, MiloMorai said:

So you would have taken Putin out 20 years ago?

As many Canadians and others NATO soldiers it takes to preserve freedom. The military is there to fight not to do pretty parades.

The differences between Nazi Germany's military position in 1934 and Russia's in 2002 allowed for different policies to be followed.  

'As many Canadians as it takes' could mean up to all of us.  I think we can leave it at this point, as you have confirmed precisely the scale of sacrifice that I would expect of an ideolog.

[MiloMorai]

Putin didn't invade a free democratic country because he knew Trump would give Ukraine to him.

So you would roll over and say welcome if some country invaded Canada. Nice patriot you are, Quisling.

Tr7ump supperters can't be reasoned with, be sure. The truth can being staring them straight in the face and they won't believe.

[MiloMorai]

1 minute ago, glenn239 said:

The differences between Nazi Germany's military position in 1934 and Russia's in 2002 allowed for different policies to be followed.  

'As many Canadians as it takes' could mean up to all of us.  I think we can leave it at this point, as you have confirmed precisely the scale of sacrifice that I would expect of an ideolog.

Your fatther or grandfather must turing in his grave Quisling.

You realy are nieve about Putim.

 

[glenn239]

1 minute ago, MiloMorai said:

So you would roll over and say welcome if some country invaded Canada. Nice patriot you are, Quisling.

Another tell - you conflate Ukraine as being equal in your eyes to your own country, Canada. 

There are two countries I would personally fight for in this world.  Canada and the United States.  If you think of Ukraine as being equal to Canada in the hearts of Canadians, then my assumption for that is that you have no love for your own country, that you can could love a country like Ukraine as much as you do your own country.  

[MiloMorai]

So sad that you are so easily willing to give up a free democratic country to a tolatarian  country.

And you wouldn't fight, be sure. You would meet the invaders with flowers which the Ukraines are not doing.

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by MiloMorai

[seahawk]

Nobody went to war when Germany gobbled up Austria. Russia and the Ukraine is the same.

[MiloMorai]

4 minutes ago, seahawk said:

Nobody went to war when Germany gobbled up Austria. Russia and the Ukraine is the same.

But Germany didn't stop with Austria. Putin ain't going to stop with Ukraine.

[rmgill]

1 hour ago, MiloMorai said:

Just like Hitler did, Putin is not going to stop with Ukraine.

And so between the permission by slow Joe for a minor incursion and threats of sanctions, how does that compare to war against hitler? 
 

And what about Team Barbie. Are you guys going to get involved? If Putin is the next thing to Hitler and all. 

[rmgill]

50 minutes ago, MiloMorai said:

But Germany didn't stop with Austria. Putin ain't going to stop with Ukraine.

So was the annexation of the South Ossetia Austria? Or was Crimea? Or was Ukraine? 3 times and Nato and Europe had strong words. 
 

I think you’re full of bluster and emotion with no perspective or facts Milo. Your view of this all is as sophisticated as a 2nd grader’s. 

[MiloMorai]

7 minutes ago, rmgill said:

And so between the permission by slow Joe for a minor incursion and threats of sanctions, how does that compare to war against hitler? 

It was ONLY a minor incursion due to the Ukraines and Russian incompetence.

It doesn't since what would become the Allies let Hitler get away with what he was doing. I thought you were some sort of history buff?

[rmgill]

1 hour ago, MiloMorai said:

It was ONLY a minor incursion due to the Ukraines and Russian incompetence.

So not because Biden deterred them. 

 

 

1 hour ago, MiloMorai said:

It doesn't since what would become the Allies let Hitler get away with what he was doing. I thought you were some sort of history buff?

You mean like the Sudetenland? Peace in our time? History doesn’t repeat, but it does rhyme. 
 

So between, South Ossetia, Crimea and the Donbass, which part relates to WWII analogues? Who was president in each of those? 

Fool me once shame on you. S. ossetia/Bush
Fool me twice shame on me. Crimea/Obama
Fool me three times Blame Trump? Donbass/Biden

[seahawk]

Or maybe the Russians were not lying and attacked because the Ukraine planed to attack them and the US was not going to stop it, as the Ukraine had paid Hunter Biden for it???

[glenn239]

17 hours ago, rmgill said:

I think you’re full of bluster and emotion with no perspective or facts Milo. Your view of this all is as sophisticated as a 2nd grader’s. 

Urban hard left Canadian opinion these days has become pretty radicalized against the US right.  Trump = Putin = Hitler.    Hitler's goons were the SS, Putin's goons are his army, Trump's goons are Trump voters.    Left wing Ontarians seem willing to go along with pretty much anything to prevent Trump from being elected in 2024.    In 2020 the anger seemed aimed mainly at Trump.  Now, it's as much against Trump voters as Trump himself.  

 

[rmgill]

Where does this all come from? CBC Pablum? 

Edited August 15, 2023 by rmgill