The Insane Rationalizations, Bigotry And Out Right Hypocrisy Of The Left

[sunday]

Continuing with dead cults...

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'It's the most rewarding work we've ever done': Canadian doctor who's euthanized 400 people proudly shares how she helped kill man deemed incapable of choosing assisted suicide - as another physician says she's helped 300 die

• Dying With Dignity Canada associates Ellen Wiebe and Stefanie Green have reportedly euthanized more than 700 people between them 
   
• Wiebe touted that she once helped a patient die after he was initially rejected because he lacked the ability to make his own health care decisions  
   
• Green, an obstetrician, describes her work as making 'deliveries' while insisting that people aren't getting Medical Assistance In Dying due to poverty
   
• One woman said the mental anguish from loneliness and poverty outweighed her physical pain from chronic leukemia in her decision to want to die 
   
• While another man is just one signature away from being approved despite listing a fear of homelessness as his key reason for wanting to die  

Seems there are no grammatical mistakes this time, even if this is the Daily Heil.

[DB]

You want me to spell it out?

If the article isn't mistakenly reporting "satire", then it's reporting something that I find morally repugnant. Is that enough?

To be clear, the story I'm referring to is the Satanic ritual one. I have no opinion on legal euthanasia at all.

Edited January 8, 2023 by DB

[sunday]

You should know that a common trick to disregard some content one does not like is to attack the source. If someone like Icke says something reasonable, a rare thing indeed, and one quotes him, some hypothetical "cool girls cheerleading for the narrative"  would go to accuse the person doing the quote of believing in "English royals being reptilians", as Icke has written something like that in the past. That is a logic fallacy, but the rhetorical point is done.

Commenting a post -that mentions two articles- in order to highlight only an innocent typing mistake, that does not detract of the message could be taken as more of the same. Of course, if that was no intent, then no harm done, not by the initial comment, not by the explanation.

[nitflegal]

4 hours ago, sunday said:

Continuing with dead cults...

Seems there are no grammatical mistakes this time, even if this is the Daily Heil.

I've known and lost people who were by any objective measure and certainly by their subjective personal assessments in a real place of hell-on-earth suffering.  Having done a round in severe burn wards I do honestly believe that there are medical situations where I'd eat a gun in a heartbeat and be begging for it every day.  Absent a miraculous breakthrough one can be condemned and fully aware that their life will be unendurable suffering (physical and/or psychological) until it ends with no realistic hope of reprieve.  So individuals having access to euthanasia is at the least understandable to me.  What is appalling to me in these situations is that the medical profession is unbelievably cavalier about this.  At a minimum it should be an utterly last resort and only for when all other avenues have been exhausted and after significant counseling and support to avoid that option.  A system that says "we could treat you and help but we're not willing to spend the money to do so in a timely manner so were are choosing to let you suffer for a protracted period unless maybe you'd like to just die?" is simple evil. If you will provide medical support and chemicals to kill them instead of the medical support and chemicals to treat them you've made a conscious decision that the state's money is worth more than their life.

Remember a decade or so ago when we were talking about death panels and the left called the other side hysterical? The smart ones knew we would get to what I just stated and were completely comfortable with it.

[R011]

7 hours ago, DB said:

You want me to spell it out?

If the article isn't mistakenly reporting "satire", then it's reporting something that I find morally repugnant. Is that enough?

To be clear, the story I'm referring to is the Satanic ritual one. I have no opinion on legal euthanasia at all.

These people are literally Left wing anti-Christian trolls pretentding to be a religion.  There are actual Satanists, who are pretty much just new agey eccentrics, but these guys aren't them.

[sunday]

7 hours ago, R011 said:

These people are literally Left wing anti-Christian trolls pretentding to be a religion.  There are actual Satanists, who are pretty much just new agey eccentrics, but these guys aren't them.

It could be, it could be they are lying.

There have been cases of people starting to play with one of those spiritist board and ended needing an Exorcism.

[JWB]

Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff seems to have directly worked to suppress press freedom.

 

https://www.based-politics.com/2023/01/05/adam-schiff-is-a-threat-to-democracy/?fbclid=IwAR0rI1iQo1RXdgnoFszKRofH7jGryHyviSAP4cpYJz2YSpkRvkMUqRDYXjc

Edited January 9, 2023 by JWB

[Ivanhoe]

13 hours ago, sunday said:

It could be, it could be they are lying.

There have been cases of people starting to play with one of those spiritist board and ended needing medication.

FIFY

[sunday]

11 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said:

FIFY

Medication, then an exorcism.

[Skywalkre]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but...

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Alec Baldwin Will Be Charged With Involuntary Manslaughter in ‘Rust’ Killing

A gun that Mr. Baldwin was rehearsing with went off, killing the film’s cinematographer. The armorer responsible for weapons on set also faces manslaughter charges.

For more than a year, the actor Alec Baldwin has tried to defend himself against the suggestion that he bore responsibility for the fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the set of “Rust,” a low-budget western he was filming on the outskirts of Santa Fe, N.M.

He told detectives he had been assured the gun he was rehearsing with that day did not contain live ammunition, sat down for an extensive television interview, sought indemnification from financial liability in the case and then sued crew members on the film, claiming that they were responsible for handing him a loaded gun.

But on Thursday prosecutors said they would charge him with two counts of involuntary manslaughter in the killing of the cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins, 42, saying they believed he had a duty to ensure the revolver was safe to handle.

“We’re trying to definitely make it clear that everybody’s equal under the law, including A-list actors like Alec Baldwin,” Andrea Reeb, a special prosecutor appointed by Santa Fe County’s district attorney to help handle the case, said in an interview. “And we also want to make sure that the safety of the film industry is addressed and things like this don’t happen again.”

The film’s armorer, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, who loaded the gun that day and was responsible for weapons on the set, will also be charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter. The film’s first assistant director, Dave Halls, who handed Mr. Baldwin the gun, agreed to a plea deal on a charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/arts/rust-shooting-charges-alec-baldwin.html

Here's the insane rationalization and outright hypocrisy part:

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The criminal charges Mr. Baldwin faces came as a surprise to many in the film industry and were strongly disputed by his legal team. A lawyer for Mr. Baldwin, Luke Nikas, said the prosecutors’ decision “distorts Halyna Hutchins’s tragic death and represents a terrible miscarriage of justice.”

“Mr. Baldwin had no reason to believe there was a live bullet in the gun — or anywhere on the movie set,” Mr. Nikas said in a statement on Thursday. “He relied on the professionals with whom he worked, who assured him the gun did not have live rounds. We will fight these charges, and we will win.”

SAG-AFTRA, the union representing film, television and radio workers, said in a statement that the death of Ms. Hutchins was a “preventable” tragedy but that it was “not a failure of duty or a criminal act on the part of any performer.”

I try to catch the NewsHour every night and they actually had an expanded piece on this story (which didn't feel warranted).  An insider in the industry they were interviewing expressed how everyone she had talked to in Hollywood was shocked that Baldwin would be charged.  How bloody out of touch are they?

When this happened there was a lot of discussion about how so many people fucked up in the chain of events that led to this death.  I saw countless accounts on reddit of folks in lesser tv/film productions who did everything they were supposed to when handling prop weapons and were appalled a bigger production like this was so poorly managed.  A clip I saw of the prosecutor hit this on the head - the folks charged all had roles to play and failed at the most basic aspects of their job leading to this death.

Last paragraph of the story with a quote from the family of the victim:

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“It is a comfort to the family that, in New Mexico, no one is above the law,” Mr. Panish said. “We support the charges, will fully cooperate with this prosecution and fervently hope the justice system works to protect the public and hold accountable those who break the law.”

We'll see... Baldwin has money and that gives him a lot of advantages in our legal system.  I'm hoping for a conviction but not going to hold my breath.

[rmgill]

I'm trying to figure out how the armorer was charged considering she wasn't even present. 

[R011]

4 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/arts/rust-shooting-charges-alec-baldwin.html

Here's the insane rationalization and outright hypocrisy part:

I try to catch the NewsHour every night and they actually had an expanded piece on this story (which didn't feel warranted).  An insider in the industry they were interviewing expressed how everyone she had talked to in Hollywood was shocked that Baldwin would be charged.  How bloody out of touch are they?

When this happened there was a lot of discussion about how so many people fucked up in the chain of events that led to this death.  I saw countless accounts on reddit of folks in lesser tv/film productions who did everything they were supposed to when handling prop weapons and were appalled a bigger production like this was so poorly managed.  A clip I saw of the prosecutor hit this on the head - the folks charged all had roles to play and failed at the most basic aspects of their job leading to this death.

Last paragraph of the story with a quote from the family of the victim:

We'll see... Baldwin has money and that gives him a lot of advantages in our legal system.  I'm hoping for a conviction but not going to hold my breath.

I'm a bit surprised.  Acting requires what would normally be unsafe gun use, which is why on a properly run set, they make every effort to ensure accidents like this can't happen.  It will be interesting to see what exactly what case the prosecution is making against Baldwin.  I would think he's more liable as a producer than as the guy who pulled the trigger.

[EchoFiveMike]

There's a certain basic level of accountability expected of any sentient adult when using a piece of equipment.  Claiming incompetence is unacceptable.

If he were female or a non-citizen, then I could accept the claim of gross irresponsibility.  S/F....Ken M

 

[rmgill]

From my own view, the only truly responsible handling would involve a process where by the person you're pointing the firearm at would be a participant in the "is the gun REALLY safe" verification. If it's dummy cartridges or empty, then so be it. 

When working with Oleg, we've done this, where by EVERYONE is agreeing upon a clear demonstration that the gun that Oleg might be near the muzzle of with his camera, including Oleg. But then in the film industry the number of actual experts in guns is insanely low considering how much they use them. 

[Detonable]

12 hours ago, rmgill said:

I'm trying to figure out how the armorer was charged considering she wasn't even present. 

  I think she handed the gun to the person who handed it to Baldwin in one account.

[Rick]

A non-conservative government.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/christian-charity-worker-faces-potential-jail-time-fine-speaking-leaving-lgbt-lifestyle

[glenn239]

14 hours ago, EchoFiveMike said:

There's a certain basic level of accountability expected of any sentient adult when using a piece of equipment.  Claiming incompetence is unacceptable.

Agree strongly.  Let Baldwin and the rest of these twats off of this one, it's just inviting more stupidity on movie sets in the future.  They fucked up, there needs to be consequences.  That being said, I don't think jail terms should be too long, less than a year.

[rmgill]

7 hours ago, Detonable said:

  I think she handed the gun to the person who handed it to Baldwin in one account.

The report I heard was that she was not even on set at the time. They had not informed her of the rehearsal and so she was not there. 

Edited January 21, 2023 by rmgill

[Murph]

Regrettably Baldwin will get off with little to no time served and never admit he killed someone through his own fault.  But at least he will be charged.  

[Murph]

Looks like the NY Times is turning on Biden, could they be getting ready for the next useful idiot?

[JWB]

 

[Murph]

But being an EEO hire (Gay, black, stupid) he will never get fired.  

[Ssnake]

Hey, isn't that this Spartacus guy?

[LT Ducky]

32 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

Hey, isn't that this Spartacus guy?

Spartacus Guy was Cory Booker, Senator from New Jersey 

[17thfabn]

4 hours ago, LT Ducky said:

Spartacus Guy was Cory Booker, Senator from New Jersey 

No one calls Booker Spartacus but himself. When you try and give yourself a nickname it usually doesn't end well.