The Insane Rationalizations, Bigotry And Out Right Hypocrisy Of The Left

[rmgill]

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/local/chamblee/video-released-apd-air-unit-gsp-pursuit-downtown-atlanta-chamblee/85-b574ca4b-3d70-4b22-8552-94f81607f28c

This is in my back yard. A different chase but representative. 

There are TWO agencies in the Metro Area that will pursue regardless. 
Doraville PD and Georgia State Patrol. Note it's the GSP that's in this chase that went all the way up from Atlanta. Every other Metro Atlanta Agency does not chase unless it's a serious crime and even this it's sketchy at best. 

[NickM]

8 hours ago, rmgill said:

I'm sorry, I've seen the D's complaining that dudes that were armed and clearly so were shot while unarmed. You're going to have to be more selective on what is and is not a bad shoot. Not every shooting of a black dude is in the wrong. Actually demanding that the details be examined isn't racist and it's not de facto support of the police. More so, where was the D's review of the Waco Seige? Did that come off as a justified homicide? What about the accountability for the shooting of Vickie Weaver? Those are TWO high profile incidents that the left seemed to studiously set aside as not an issue. 

Didn't that toad, The  Right "Reverend" Al Sharpton say it should to be illegal for whites to kill a black man whatever the circumstances?

Edited August 26, 2022 by NickM

[NickM]

25 minutes ago, rmgill said:

. I had MANY people on the left tell me this during the rioting. 

These clowns need to be taught that if they try to jack people's merch the only thing they will end up getting is death

[MiloMorai]

12 minutes ago, NickM said:

These clowns need to be taught that if they try to jack people's merch the only thing they will end up getting is death

So those that made the assault on the Capitol should also?

[Skywalkre]

22 hours ago, rmgill said:

Yes. And part of the overall narrative is that the left is upset with ANY black person being shot even when they bloody well deserve it. I twigged to this when we had objections over the shooting of a black 'motorist' who:

Stole a car. 
Fled.
Nearly killed a small girl in the chase. 
Crashed. 
Shot at cops. 
Was then killed. 

The locals objected vociferously to DeKalb County PD shooting this dude, who by all objective context was a good shoot and needed shooting to stop him. That didn't stop them from bitching and using it as part of their larger narrative. 

Each shooting should be looked at for justification in isolation. 

I've also seen more sensical judgement of police from an even handed perspective out of the Libertarian right (you should see what Mad Mike says) than I have ever seen out of the DNC left on this subject. 

None of this also addresses the fact that the DNC largely runs the police in the big cities where the vast bulk of these shootings occur. 

Frankly this whole "the GOP lost their credibility on police accountability" narrative is just a pile of crap. 

The right wants law and order but within the confines of actual rule of law. This means that if you shoot at cops you should be run down and captured if not stopped with deadly force. In the Metro Area, they have a "no chase policy" that means that if you flee you can do so unless you've committed one of 7 violent crimes. But now that policy has crept to the point that even WITH aggravated assault they'll call off the chase. I know this because it just happened with a chase across 3 counties just this week and with a multi-jurisdictional chase at that. I know because I talked with one of the officers on this chase who bailed out of a class when Chamblee started asking for help. 

The left objectively wants criminals to be able to do what they want. Some come out and actually say this. They seem theft and crime as the black population getting redress for past grievances and thus entirely justified. I had MANY people on the left tell me this during the rioting. 

That's a whole lot of text to not even address the point being made.

How Ds behave or act is irrelevant to the point about Rs.  I get it, though, in that that's the only way you can discuss anything here on TN by turning it into this diatribe about the evils of the Ds... 🙄

Even if Rs aren't in control of certain municipalities that have issues doesn't mean their policies or behaviors impact it.  They may have control at the state level (and thus have oversight potential that they default to blind support of police at the expense of civil liberties and rights) and they definitely have power at the Fed level with all the various ways money is funneled down to state/local authorities and the impacts that has on policing and policy.

[rmgill]

26 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

That's a whole lot of text to not even address the point being made.

We're talking policies right? Tell your local PD they can't chase felons. Is that a R Policy or a D Policy? 

26 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

How Ds behave or act is irrelevant to the point about Rs.  I get it, though, in that that's the only way you can discuss anything here on TN by turning it into this diatribe about the evils of the Ds... 🙄

Ok. I'll keep it simple. 

Where are the big crime rates. 

Who runs those cities? 

Who runs those police departments. 

Explain how those are the OTHER party's policy decisions. 
 

26 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

 

Even if Rs aren't in control of certain municipalities that have issues doesn't mean their policies or behaviors impact it.

Which policies? In abstract. Is this the "systemic racism" that's inherent in the system? I've seen the city justice systems up close. You know who's running it? It ain't the republicans. It's the local democrats. From Court Clerks to Sheriffs to judges.

So when the county code enforcement folks, run by the democrat county commission with the democrat county commissioner jacks up a dude for having slightly too long grass or what ever and he's a black dude who's barely getting by and he's in the right but the county say's he's not, it's a republican policy that's doing that? Sounds more like, from what I've seen, it's the Republican bab-yaga....
 

26 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

  They may have control at the state level (and thus have oversight potential that they default to blind support of police at the expense of civil liberties and rights) and they definitely have power at the Fed level with all the various ways money is funneled down to state/local authorities and the impacts that has on policing and policy.

AT the state level different things are happening. At least with the City of Atlanta, for example, the policy crap that's going on there that MOST impacts the residents, it's the city that holds the blame. From, how the schools are run, to how the Sheriff's Department is corrupt as hell to how the city council makes specific policy that screws the tax base to how the mayor plays politics in ways that don't help anyone but themselves. Mean while the city gets to burn while, for example, Keisha Lance Bottom's screws around and mugs for the cameras. No R's in any of that. 

 

Edited August 26, 2022 by rmgill

[17thfabn]

1 hour ago, Skywalkre said:

 

Even if Rs aren't in control of certain municipalities that have issues doesn't mean their policies or behaviors impact it.  ............

and they definitely have power at the Fed level with all the various ways money is funneled down to state/local authorities and the impacts that has on policing and policy.

Republicans have control at the federal level?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the U.S. Senate, House of Representatives and Presidency all controlled by the Democratic Party?

I don't have the figures in front of me, but if I remember correctly. , I look up exact figures later but from memory these are close.

Figures from two Republican ran states, Ohio and Indiana show.... 80 % of murders in both states occur in the biggest municipalities in both states  which only have 20 % of their states population.  All these municipalities are controlled by the Democratic party.

[rmgill]

 

[rmgill]

Apparently Florida flew 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyard. This overwhelmed the resources of the island where the average home value is  $1.325 million. 

[R011]

3 hours ago, rmgill said:

Apparently Florida flew 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyard. This overwhelmed the resources of the island where the average home value is  $1.325 million. 

Mind you, $1.325 million is about what a house goes for in Toronto.  Even a one bedroom condo in a nice, but not luxury, building goes for $500K.

[sunday]

https://gab.com/Mateo_Tao/posts/109009687337450028

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“Martha's Vineyard liberals responded to the blessings of diversity in the entirely predictable fashion: by having 128 National Guard troops deport the 50 migrants to a camp on the mainland. Hypocrisy fully exposed, the entire country now sees the total moral bankruptcy of "all are welcome here" virtue-signaling signs, etc. right?

Well, no. There are two problems here. The first I mentioned yesterday, the problem of moral relativism in which the action itself never matters, only the who/whom of the perpetrator. The second is that "people found out the truth about X" only rarely, if ever, results in "and now they will do something about it." The woke-ism in Virginia schools ousting the Democrat machine last year is more of an exception that proves the rule.

People are not rational, but rationalizing creatures. There's a reason hopium and copium are the hardest of drugs. Even Jefferson, back in 1776, wrote that people are more inclined to suffer if they think suffering is bearable than change the circumstances they are accustomed to.

I know people who literally rationalized the murderous riots of 2020 as their own neighborhoods were set ablaze. Does anyone seriously expect these people to change their minds because of a dialectical argument? Does rhetorical persuasion penetrate to people brainwashed by decades of emotional blackmail? Doubtful. I could be wrong about this — but I don't think so.

 

[DKTanker]

Well of course they're being kicked out, that's what you do when brown people come in the front door instead of using the service entrance.

[sunday]

The Bee is having a field day

https://babylonbee.com/news/obamas-construct-new-cages-to-hold-arriving-migrants-at-marthas-vineyard-estate

https://babylonbee.com/news/after-dealing-with-marthas-vineyard-hoa-migrants-decide-go-back-and-take-their-chances-with-the-cartels

https://babylonbee.com/news/marthas-vineyard-lovingly-welcomes-immigrants-to-any-other-part-of-america

https://babylonbee.com/news/marthas-vineyard-resident-calls-police-to-report-a-latino-in-the-neighborhood-not-operating-a-leaf-blower

[17thfabn]

"Apparently Florida flew 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyard. This overwhelmed the resources of the island where the average home value is  $1.325 million. "

One of Martha's Vineyard's most famous residents is the world's best known community organizer.  Maybe he could organize a solution?

Edited September 17, 2022 by 17thfabn

[Ivanhoe]

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[NickM]

5 hours ago, 17thfabn said:

"Apparently Florida flew 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyard. This overwhelmed the resources of the island where the average home value is  $1.325 million. "

One of Martha's Vineyard's most famous residents is the world's best known community organizer.  Maybe he could organize a solution?

I just heard a clip from Ken Burns (of all people) decrying DeSantis 'using people as political pawns'.

[urbanoid]

[rmgill]

 

[sunday]

Martha's Vineyard Takes Revenge On DeSantis By Shipping Him 50 Karens

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TALLAHASSEE, FL — Outraged at having been sent 50 illegal immigrants from Florida by Ron DeSantis, Martha's Vineyard has taken ultimate revenge on the governor by shipping 50 Karens to Florida.

"Perhaps now DeSantis will think twice before he sullies our pristine white island with brown migrant people," said Martha's Vineyard HOA President Karen VonSchnitzel. "Once the charter flight filled with our neighborhood's most insufferable Karens touches down in Tallahassee, he will rue the day he made us look like heartless racists in front of the entire country. HAHAHAHAHA!"

(...)

 

 

[MiloMorai]

What was illigeal about the 50 persons?

[sunday]

https://spectator.com.au/2022/09/the-domestic-violence-gravy-train/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UNFI 20220920 GK&utm_content=UNFI 20220920 GK+CID_12970168d29358ae4d137b55df218c9b&utm_source=CampaignMonitor_Australia&utm_term=Bettina Arndt writes today about the enormous wealth caught up in the bureaucracy of domestic violence

 

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Twice during her brief visit, her daughter-in-law called the police alleging domestic violence over trivial arguments with her husband. On one occasion she decided she wanted beef for dinner and demanded her husband provide it. Vimala explains: ‘Her fridge was stacked with chicken, fish, and lamb but she decided she needed the beef straight away, and threatened to call the police if my son didn’t give in.’

 

[rmgill]

10 hours ago, sunday said:

Martha's Vineyard Takes Revenge On DeSantis By Shipping Him 50 Karens

 

 

Just remove all the management from the airport. Problem solved.