The Insane Rationalizations, Bigotry And Out Right Hypocrisy Of The Left

[DKTanker]

1 minute ago, 17thfabn said:

I thought Dr. Oz would not be a good candidate. From what I hear he is not running a campaign. His opponent, John Fetterman seems like some one who would be easy to beat. A fake man of the people who is really a rich man child playing tough guy who's parents supported him financially well into his 40s. And his political views seem hard left for a state like Pennsylvania that is moderate. On top of that Fetterman had a stroke and is doing a "Hidden Joe Biden" maneuver. Well I guess it worked for the current president.

J.D. Vance running as a Republican for the Senate seat in Ohio has also been some what absent. His opponent his been running ads ten to one over the amount. Supposedly he is waiting until after labor day to make his move. I hope he had a fun summer instead of doing his job and getting out and campaigning.

Matt Dolan would have been a better candidate for Ohio and David McCormick would have been better in Pennsylvania.

If the Republicans lose those two seats in the U.S. Senate it will all but guarantee Democratic control of the Senate. 

I wish Trump would just stay out of the local races. 

You didn't mention Georgia, Hershel Walker is barely treading water, so that seat won't be flipped from the Warlock.

[LT Ducky]

4 hours ago, rmgill said:

Up in Lt Ducky-vania....

 

 

Don’t remind me. Oz wasn’t my guy but I wasn’t too worried about his win since Fetterman has so many issues …. except one. He’s outspending Oz by a lot. And Hannity’s hatchet job on Kathy Barnett was not taken well.

[rmgill]

Walker is a good candidate for recognition. But that is it. The Warnock campaign and Google are all over Walker's failings and failures. 

Edited August 21, 2022 by rmgill

[17thfabn]

Supposedly per the political pros 2022 is a tough year for the Republicans because of the way the seats came up. Per the same pros 2024 should be a better year for the Republicans to take the Senate.

Regardless of that, in my mind Ohio, Pennsylvania and Georgia  would be easy wins for the Republicans with half way competent candidates.

J.D. Vance would't be bad but he needs to fight for it.

I think Oz brings a lot of baggage. But he has less baggage than his opponent.

I don't know what they were thinking with  Walker in Georgia. I think Warnock would be an easy one to knock off. Warncock is to far left for Georgia. I haven't followed the Georgia campaign closely . From what I hear they are painting Walker as a brain damaged lunatic.

 

[rmgill]

 

[rmgill]

MTG SWATTED...

 

 

[17thfabn]

5 minutes ago, rmgill said:

MTG SWATTED...

 

I really hate the "Civil War" hype. It isn't going to happen, if for no other reason 95 % on both sides would be to lazy.

All "Civil War" talk does is rile up the crazies. 

[nitflegal]

18 minutes ago, 17thfabn said:

I really hate the "Civil War" hype. It isn't going to happen, if for no other reason 95 % on both sides would be to lazy.

All "Civil War" talk does is rile up the crazies. 

I don't see a hot civil war happening.  However something like the heyday of the Basque separatists going on?  Yeah, that I can see.  Major areas where Federal officials only go in large force and for specific high value targets? I can see that too.

[MiloMorai]

Isn't the GOP the Law and Order party?

[DKTanker]

46 minutes ago, 17thfabn said:

I really hate the "Civil War" hype. It isn't going to happen, if for no other reason 95 % on both sides would be to lazy.

All "Civil War" talk does is rile up the crazies. 

More likely we devolve into a police state.  Moreover, the two sides are not L & R, rather it is the UniParty consisting of most of the Democratic Party politicians and perhaps a majority of the GOP politicians who see themselves, as Bush 43 put it, the "ruling class."  We of the several tribes keep electing tribal leaders hoping they'll turn out to be benevolent.  Unfortunately with each passing election that is becoming more and more a fool's errand.

[rmgill]

1 hour ago, MiloMorai said:

Isn't the GOP the Law and Order party?

Law and Order with rule of law, not rule of man. Rule of man, where by you have bought and paid for judges or officials deciding that someone connected gets a license or doesn't get prosecuted isn't within the bounds of rule of law. 

See also why we don't allow nobility as a legal concept at all under the US legal system. 

[rmgill]

1 hour ago, 17thfabn said:

I really hate the "Civil War" hype. It isn't going to happen, if for no other reason 95 % on both sides would be to lazy.

All "Civil War" talk does is rile up the crazies. 

The summer of love certainly looked like the beginnings of civil war. the police not pursuing criminals sure does too. We just had a shooting, at some cops here near where I live. The local municipality that was in primary pursuit called off the chase. Stolen car, masked subject, shot at cops and other folks and they abandoned the chase when they had multiple agencies moving to assist them. 

You CAN now out run Motorola. 

[NickM]

2 hours ago, nitflegal said:

I don't see a hot civil war happening.  However something like the heyday of the Basque separatists going on?  Yeah, that I can see.  Major areas where Federal officials only go in large force and for specific high value targets? I can see that too.

some folks have  been saying that we've been in a 'cold civil war' for years now.

[NickM]

1 hour ago, rmgill said:

The summer of love certainly looked like the beginnings of civil war. the police not pursuing criminals sure does too. We just had a shooting, at some cops here near where I live. The local municipality that was in primary pursuit called off the chase. Stolen car, masked subject, shot at cops and other folks and they abandoned the chase when they had multiple agencies moving to assist them. 

You CAN now out run Motorola. 

Just to be clear, you mean this most recent 'Summer of Love', the George Floyd Summer of Love, right?

[Ivanhoe]

5 hours ago, nitflegal said:

I don't see a hot civil war happening.  However something like the heyday of the Basque separatists going on?  Yeah, that I can see.  Major areas where Federal officials only go in large force and for specific high value targets? I can see that too.

I expect the "impending civil war" narrative is to prep the psychological battlefield so that swing voters are frightened into giving emergency powers to the left wing. Suspension of the BoR, habeas corpus, etc.

Visualize the Wilson administration, with more hatred and violence.

 

[Stargrunt6]

1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:

I expect the "impending civil war" narrative is to prep the psychological battlefield so that swing voters are frightened into giving emergency powers to the left wing. Suspension of the BoR, habeas corpus, etc.

Visualize the Wilson administration, with more hatred and violence.

 

The seeds of the narrative have been implanted in the collective consciousness in the US over the past few years.  I can see it in people I know, even though they are conservative.  The blue pills are being Rx at wholesale levels.  

[sunday]

7 hours ago, nitflegal said:

I don't see a hot civil war happening.  However something like the heyday of the Basque separatists going on?  Yeah, that I can see.  Major areas where Federal officials only go in large force and for specific high value targets? I can see that too.

Spain at those times were less of a police state wrt peaceful political opponents than the US today. Do you remember what happened to the Tea Party? That would have been unthinkable in 1960s Spain.

[Ivanhoe]

https://americanmind.org/salvo/rent-forever-and-love-it/
 

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The implications of the current land grab are profound, threatening the future of democratic institutions and the middle class. These trends are distressingly common across the higher income countries. The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) reported in Under Pressure: The Squeezed Middle-Class that the future of the middle-class is threatened by house prices that have been growing “three times faster than household median income over the last two decades.” The pandemic drove prices even further, and, in the U.S., housing affordability is at the lowest level since 1989.

On both sides of the Atlantic, large financial institutions like Britain’s Lloyds Bank and BlackRock have placed multi-billion dollar bets on buying homes for the rental market. In the first quarter of 2021, investors accounted for roughly one out of every seven homes bought, a marked increase from previous years. The popular notion is of a “rentership” society where people remain renters for life, enjoying their video games or attending to their houseplants, never knowing the pleasure of having a real garden or backyard of their own.  It might assure a steady profit for the landlord class, but would destroy the dream of ownership for the average person.

 

The elites' vision seems to be feudal, at best.

[rmgill]

11 hours ago, NickM said:

Just to be clear, you mean this most recent 'Summer of Love', the George Floyd Summer of Love, right?

Yes. 

 

2 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

https://americanmind.org/salvo/rent-forever-and-love-it/
 

The elites' vision seems to be feudal, at best.

With literal vote buying for their in-debt for College education base. Paid for by the working class. 

Edited August 25, 2022 by rmgill

[JWB]

14 hours ago, nitflegal said:

I don't see a hot civil war happening.  However something like the heyday of the Basque separatists going on?  Yeah, that I can see.  Major areas where Federal officials only go in large force and for specific high value targets? I can see that too.

I see it more like the Troubles in Ulster.

[rmgill]

With Ulster 10 times the size of great Britain and with far more guns. 

[Skywalkre]

16 hours ago, MiloMorai said:

Isn't the GOP the Law and Order party?

Pence just a few days ago was giving a speech and brought this up... reminding Rs of their roots in light of all the threats pouring into the FBI since the raid on Mar-a-Lago.

Frankly I think the Rs abdicated that title years ago given their lack of response/concern on various issues brought up regarding state and local law enforcement over the years by minorities and other groups typically in the D camp.  I've mentioned it countless times on here but many of those complaints should be issues the Rs agree with completely (law and order, Constitutional rights, fair and equal treatment under the law, yadda yadda...) but instead Rs sided with the LE community.

[rmgill]

I'm sorry, I've seen the D's complaining that dudes that were armed and clearly so were shot while unarmed. You're going to have to be more selective on what is and is not a bad shoot. Not every shooting of a black dude is in the wrong. Actually demanding that the details be examined isn't racist and it's not de facto support of the police. More so, where was the D's review of the Waco Seige? Did that come off as a justified homicide? What about the accountability for the shooting of Vickie Weaver? Those are TWO high profile incidents that the left seemed to studiously set aside as not an issue. 

[Skywalkre]

Didn't say shootings specifically.  Those are just part of the larger overall narrative.

[rmgill]

27 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

Didn't say shootings specifically.  Those are just part of the larger overall narrative.

Yes. And part of the overall narrative is that the left is upset with ANY black person being shot even when they bloody well deserve it. I twigged to this when we had objections over the shooting of a black 'motorist' who:

Stole a car. 
Fled.
Nearly killed a small girl in the chase. 
Crashed. 
Shot at cops. 
Was then killed. 

The locals objected vociferously to DeKalb County PD shooting this dude, who by all objective context was a good shoot and needed shooting to stop him. That didn't stop them from bitching and using it as part of their larger narrative. 

Each shooting should be looked at for justification in isolation. 

I've also seen more sensical judgement of police from an even handed perspective out of the Libertarian right (you should see what Mad Mike says) than I have ever seen out of the DNC left on this subject. 

None of this also addresses the fact that the DNC largely runs the police in the big cities where the vast bulk of these shootings occur. 

Frankly this whole "the GOP lost their credibility on police accountability" narrative is just a pile of crap. 

The right wants law and order but within the confines of actual rule of law. This means that if you shoot at cops you should be run down and captured if not stopped with deadly force. In the Metro Area, they have a "no chase policy" that means that if you flee you can do so unless you've committed one of 7 violent crimes. But now that policy has crept to the point that even WITH aggravated assault they'll call off the chase. I know this because it just happened with a chase across 3 counties just this week and with a multi-jurisdictional chase at that. I know because I talked with one of the officers on this chase who bailed out of a class when Chamblee started asking for help. 

The left objectively wants criminals to be able to do what they want. Some come out and actually say this. They seem theft and crime as the black population getting redress for past grievances and thus entirely justified. I had MANY people on the left tell me this during the rioting. 

Edited August 25, 2022 by rmgill