AdmiralB Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Even more OT, somebody makes (or at least made) a Colt/Root replica. It was an Italian company, but not one of the usual suspects (Euroarms, Armi Sport, Uberti, et al). Might have been Palmetto. Don't recall if they were .44 or .56; Dixie sold them, had one out on the floor last time I was there. Big heavy thing, and expensive (>$1000 IIRC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Since this thread is going West (well, South), how about the LeMat revolver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralB Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Since this thread is going West (well, South), how about the LeMat revolver? Never fired one, but I've handled the replicas. POS design, IMO...worthy of the thread subject. Edited September 30, 2011 by AdmiralB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Kibbey Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Even more OT, somebody makes (or at least made) a Colt/Root replica. It was an Italian company, but not one of the usual suspects (Euroarms, Armi Sport, Uberti, et al). Might have been Palmetto. Don't recall if they were .44 or .56; Dixie sold them, had one out on the floor last time I was there. Big heavy thing, and expensive (>$1000 IIRC). Dixie Gun Works: Palmetto. Step right up, your bargain awaits.... http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=13618 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 There was a western with clint Eastwood using a Mauser Broomhandle, although I don't think it was ever fired for real, just bad effects added later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Kibbey Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 There was a western with clint Eastwood using a Mauser Broomhandle, although I don't think it was ever fired for real, just bad effects added later. "Joe Kidd"...and a bunch of other films.... http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Mauser_C96 There's also a reference to having one on hand by Billy Greenbush in "Tom Horn", but you never see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Wasn't there a rifle, modern one iirc, that fired around corners? German? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Two WWII German guns - one a sub machine gun (MP38 or a MP40), one a version of the first assault rifle - had bent barrels to fire round corners, though the assault rifle (Krummer Lauf) also had a mirror on it to see round corners... If memory serves, of limited utility with a massive barrel wear problem. Modern - the Israelis have a set up that houses a modern semi auto pistol (a glock is mostly used in promo material, though I have no idea if its limited to glocks or capable of being adjusted...)in the side adjustable front end, with a camera at front and display at the back end. Its a niche weapon intended for special forces units in hostage situations, I would presume. Looks about the size of a full sun machine gun. Google "cornershot". Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Kibbey Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Two WWII German guns - one a sub machine gun (MP38 or a MP40), one a version of the first assault rifle - had bent barrels to fire round corners, though the assault rifle (Krummer Lauf) also had a mirror on it to see round corners... If memory serves, of limited utility with a massive barrel wear problem. Modern - the Israelis have a set up that houses a modern semi auto pistol (a glock is mostly used in promo material, though I have no idea if its limited to glocks or capable of being adjusted...)in the side adjustable front end, with a camera at front and display at the back end. Its a niche weapon intended for special forces units in hostage situations, I would presume. Looks about the size of a full sun machine gun. Google "cornershot". Regards. IWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Steele Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Speaking of notables. The .45 ACP Notable for left handed rifling (unique among US military firearms ) http://forum.m1911.o...ead.php?t=69656 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Speaking of notables. The .45 ACP Notable for left handed rifling (unique) http://forum.m1911.o...ead.php?t=69656 Bullets now come pre-rifled?!?!?!?!? And the barrels are now...what, smooth? My head hurtz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Kibbey Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Bullets now come pre-rifled?!?!?!?!? And the barrels are now...what, smooth? My head hurtz. Nope, the barrel is rifled, the bullets engage this rifling (and take on the pattern in the trip down the bore). LH twist is not unique to Browning's 1911's, but it is encountered less frequently than RH twist in other arms. There seems to be some inconsistency even between certain models and manufacturers over time. From the serendipity with which they apply twist direction, it seems to have no reproducibly demonstrable impact on shooting one way or the other, at least in handguns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 'Twas a joke, as the 45ACP round was stated to have left hand riffling, not any model of revolver or pistol...a joke, Doug. But that's okay, guess I come across as an idiot sometimes, and my humour is...very specific, at times. I take it Mike meant the 1911A1's are originally left hand riffled, which makes them "unique"... Though it doesn't. Colt had stuff produced in England, and England simply went for left handed rifling traditionally (as I understand it), and Colt picked up from there. Thus, not so "unique". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob B Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Since this thread is going West (well, South), how about the LeMat revolver? I fired one of the replicas several years ago that belongs to a friend of mine. It is a big clumsy revolver that was difficult to cock with the shooting hand. The loading lever is also on fragile side, if you use it without the ramrod inserted, it has a tendency to bend. If you loaded the shotgun barrel following using the factory recommended load, the shot would bounced off of a wooden crate. They are for folks who want something different. People probably enjoy it for the novelty of it's odd features, and the history of some of the characters that carried them. However, IMHO, a Colt or a Remington style cap and ball revolver would probably be a better choice for shooting. They sure handle better. If you don't care about the historical aspect, but like to shoot black powder, or front loaders, It is hard to beat a Ruger Old Army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug97 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I guess technically not a firearm, but definitely of note. Pair of singing bird pistols from 1820 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I guess technically not a firearm, but definitely of note. Pair of singing bird pistols from 1820 But not ridicule. Beauuuuuuuutiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Steele Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 'Twas a joke, as the 45ACP round was stated to have left hand riffling, not any model of revolver or pistol...a joke, Doug. But that's okay, guess I come across as an idiot sometimes, and my humour is...very specific, at times. I take it Mike meant the 1911A1's are originally left hand riffled, which makes them "unique"... Though it doesn't. Colt had stuff produced in England, and England simply went for left handed rifling traditionally (as I understand it), and Colt picked up from there. Thus, not so "unique". Well supposedly the left hand rifiling was for mounted use (since most folks were r handed) the pistol would have a tendency to recoil to the left and thus would be more controllable for mounted use. Dont know how true it is but it sounds plausible . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) While the American practice is for right hand twists; Colt guns all have the rifling left handed, which is the English practice. The reason for this is that after the failure of Col. Colt's first factory in America, he went to London and made his revolvers there for some years; And as the rifling machines in use there were adapted for a left hand twist, Colt used it, and the Colt guns have been made the same way ever since Edited October 2, 2011 by Maxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Another 12ga spinner: From Russia, with love (and mystery)-- http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/10/11/ots-62-12-gauge-service-revolver-shotgun/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Tucan Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Then there was this combination weapon for spaceship crews for case of landing out of civillisation - a double-barelled shotgun (40 gauge?) plus 5.45mm ball barrel, all single shot. Ah, TP-82. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Then there was this combination weapon for spaceship crews for case of landing out of civillisation - a double-barelled shotgun (40 gauge?) plus 5.45mm ball barrel, all single shot. Ah, TP-82. Probably .410...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 40 GAUGE? What, single BB pellets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Kibbey Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 40 GAUGE? What, single BB pellets? ".410" is actually a bore dimension. The use of the word "gauge" when associated with this bore has come to be in common, informal use, but is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoid Maxx Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 .410? Never fired or touched such a...well, mouse... Which is why 40 gauge sounded beyond pathetic. Shot 20, 12, 12/86...10...uh. 10. Mutant elephant zombie ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Kibbey Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 .410? Never fired or touched such a...well, mouse... Which is why 40 gauge sounded beyond pathetic. Shot 20, 12, 12/86...10...uh. 10. Mutant elephant zombie ammo. Using the usual convention for establishing "gauge", the .410 is in the high '60's. It is enjoying some resurgence as a defensive round because revolvers designed for it can also (usually) chamber .45 Long Colt ammo. A .410 with 4-5 stacked 00 buckshot balls is nothing to sneeze at: http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=41 I believe it's become so popular, so fast, that Smith & Wesson have had to release a similar firearm so as not to leave this niche unfilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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