Ivanhoe Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Its alt-hist. Cowboys vs Viet Cong. Welcome to the rodeo, Charlie!
Markus Becker Posted January 11 Posted January 11 20 hours ago, sunday said: Not many cowboys named Micah, I suppose. And he's a bit on the pale side too! IRL cowboy was a hard and not too well paid job, so guess who frequently did it.
17thfabn Posted January 12 Posted January 12 19 hours ago, Ivanhoe said: Its alt-hist. Cowboys vs Viet Cong. Welcome to the rodeo, Charlie! The lever action 5.56 would have handled the ball powder used in early 5.56 ammunition better.
shep854 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 3 hours ago, sunday said: Beauty Indeed. And all by hand.
alejandro_ Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Russia designs Titan rifle for commandos https://en.apa.az/cis-countries/russia-designs-titan-rifle-for-commandos-454129 Semiautomatic Titan rifle of .308 caliber was designed for commandos. It is lighter than analogues, enjoys high precision and is already engaged in the zone of the Ukrainian operation, the Izvestia daily reported quoting SWC producer company, APA reports citing TASS. "Semiautomatic Titan rifle of .308 caliber has been designed for Russian special task units. It can be used as a sniper or assault rifle. Experts say the new universal rifle has good characteristics and is in demand of scouts and commandos," it said. The rifle is reliable with precise and dense fire. "The density is 0.3 minutes of angle. It means a hit into a circle of less than one centimeter in diameter from a distance of 100 meters. The .308 caliber cartridge is powerful and reliable. Russia produces it in various options, including armor piercing. Therefore, the rifle is popular among the Russian military," the company said. Calibre is NATO .308 by the way
17thfabn Posted January 15 Posted January 15 5 hours ago, alejandro_ said: Russia designs Titan rifle for commandos https://en.apa.az/cis-countries/russia-designs-titan-rifle-for-commandos-454129 The .308 caliber cartridge is powerful and reliable. Russia produces it in various options, including armor piercing. Therefore, the rifle is popular among the Russian military," the company said. How many other Russian weapons use NATO 7.62 X 51?
shep854 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, 17thfabn said: How many other Russian weapons use NATO 7.62 X 51? Is the sun finally setting on the 7.62x54R??
R011 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, shep854 said: Is the sun finally setting on the 7.62x54R?? Maybe on the Core Planets, but 54R is still used by high end mercs elsewhere in the Verse.
bojan Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, shep854 said: Is the sun finally setting on the 7.62x54R?? No, because MGs use way more ammo than DMRs and they don't really need to be in the same caliber. 2 hours ago, 17thfabn said: How many other Russian weapons use NATO 7.62 X 51? Some of the sniper rifles used by SF.
alejandro_ Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, bojan said: No, because MGs use way more ammo than DMRs and they don't really need to be in the same caliber. Some of the sniper rifles used by SF. Wouldn't it be more practical to stick with the 7.62×54mmR as in the Dragunov?
Markus Becker Posted January 16 Posted January 16 12 hours ago, alejandro_ said: Wouldn't it be more practical to stick with the 7.62×54mmR as in the Dragunov? I don't think x54R is inherently inferior accuracy wise, isn't it? But a rimless round makes a lot of things mechanically simpler.
Markus Becker Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 1/14/2025 at 1:57 AM, shep854 said: A Sturmgewehr clone that actually works?? It's all a matter of the effort you put in. And I take it the H&M aka PSA Stg worked too but failed because of price/demand.
Markus Becker Posted January 16 Posted January 16 I'll leave this here for no particular reason or TN member. 😇
shep854 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 hours ago, Markus Becker said: It's all a matter of the effort you put in. And I take it the H&M aka PSA Stg worked too but failed because of price/demand. From Ian's comments, the American attempt stumbled over the goal of making it multi-caliber, primarily 5.56x45, for a relatively low price.
Markus Becker Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) IIRC the price promised by H&M years ago was about 1,200 dollars. That's obsolete simply because of inflation. The AR's PSA makes are so affordable because they turn them out in vast numbers on a production line that has been long paid for. The Stg would require a new one and who'd actually buy one if you can get a mid level AR with an optic for a considerably lower price? And the purists can get the SSD reproduction for about 4,000 dollars. https://www.diewaffenbrüder.de/Marken/SPORT-SYSTEME-DITTRICH/ If the issue had been the multitude of calibers, the sollution would have been to release it in just one. Probably 7.62*39 because it's commen and very similar to 8mm kurz. Edited January 16 by Markus Becker
bojan Posted January 16 Posted January 16 16 hours ago, alejandro_ said: Wouldn't it be more practical to stick with the 7.62×54mmR as in the Dragunov? Two things that are crucial is that none has made 7.62x54R mag with capacity more than 10 rounds that works reliable, and second one is that 7.62x54R needs somewhat longer barrel for full performances. Additionally 7.62x51 and mags are lighter than 7.62x54R and it's mags. For regular troops all those are non-issue, for SF they might be.
bojan Posted January 16 Posted January 16 3 hours ago, Markus Becker said: I'll leave this here for no particular reason or TN member. 😇 Lol. FN marketing department does not know own history: Quote its semi-automatic design Designed to be full auto firing 7.92x33, tortured into being 7.62x51, which made full auto pointless and reduced reliability, making fine adjust gas system necessarily for it to work at all. Quote and innovative adjustable gas system made it more reliable than its competitors No, not even close. G3 was more reliable, especially in adverse conditions. AK also, as was vz.58. Or AR-10. In fact FAL was only "new generation" rifle among tested (AR-10, G3, AK, vz.58, FAL) that has failed local tests, failing all adverse condition tests except thick mud and dust (failed liquid mud, water immersion, freezing cold, fine and coarse sand). Compared to that all other rifles failed only single test (AK and vz.58 - liquid mud, AR-10 and G3 - freezing cold). FAL was also only one to suffer from broken parts during 450 rounds endurance tests, failing even on pretty benign 150 rounds rapid fire test.
bojan Posted January 16 Posted January 16 31 minutes ago, Markus Becker said: ...If the issue had been the multitude of calibers, the sollution would have been to release it in just one. Probably 7.62*39 because it's commen and very similar to 8mm kurz. And don't try to invent new 7.62x39 mag, that job was done 75+ years ago.
Markus Becker Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Re: trying to invent Have they just invented the Steyr 1912 again? And why? KelTec being unusual again or does this bypass laws in ban states?
sunday Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Front locking lugs? To my dilettante self that looks new. Unusual at least.
Ivanhoe Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Some hubbub concerning a small cannon, purportedly belonging to Coronado's street gang, found in Arizona;
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