Firearms of note and ridicule

[shep854]

Dark and morbid humor alert...a details on the shooter's rifle.

 

[Ivanhoe]

On 8/23/2024 at 5:44 PM, shep854 said:

I want to attend one of his classes.

Me too.

https://sotarsociety.com/class-deposit/

No classes currently scheduled, but a waiting list is available.

His shop is in occupied territory, that is unfortunate.

[shep854]

2 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Me too.

https://sotarsociety.com/class-deposit/

No classes currently scheduled, but a waiting list is available.

His shop is in occupied territory, that is unfortunate.

I noticed that; how does he get free world guns in?

[Ivanhoe]

5 hours ago, shep854 said:

I noticed that; how does he get free world guns in?

I think he requires class attendees to tell him what they're bringing, to ensure legal compliance.

[DB]

I got a CloudFlare denial when I clicked on that site.

[bojan]

Same

[Markus Becker]

58 minutes ago, DB said:

I got a CloudFlare denial when I clicked on that site.

EU data protection regulations strike again. With a VPN set to America it works. 

In a way. You get a 404 but if you go 'back to home' you get to the login page. 

 

[shep854]

8 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

I think he requires class attendees to tell him what they're bringing, to ensure legal compliance.

Ah.  It's still a bit surprising that a ban state allows them in; I guess he's protected by his federal licensing (FFL, SOT and all that).  Do students have to ship their guns ahead?  I'd be worried about the police if stopped in MD while carrying my rifle to or from a class.

[Ivanhoe]

2 hours ago, shep854 said:

Ah.  It's still a bit surprising that a ban state allows them in; I guess he's protected by his federal licensing (FFL, SOT and all that).  Do students have to ship their guns ahead?  I'd be worried about the police if stopped in MD while carrying my rifle to or from a class.

Me too. It'll be awhile before I could go there for a class, but his location is up in the NE corner of MD. One could stay in a motel in DE and drive over, its only a few miles. I think one could sorta flank MD by driving mostly thru PA.

It sounds like there are very complicated rules in MD.

[Markus Becker]

What's the legal situation if you transport your rifle disassembled and in a locked bag(s)?

 

In other news. The end credits are comedy gold.

 

 

[shep854]

3 hours ago, Markus Becker said:

What's the legal situation if you transport your rifle disassembled and in a locked bag(s)?

 

In other news. The end credits are comedy gold.

 

 

Depends on Maryland law and the zeal of the cops.  'The [Maryland] law prohibits the possession, sale, transfer, or purchase of specific military-style firearms, including the AR-15 and AK-47, and limits gun magazines to 10 rounds', so even a disassembled and locked rifle may be considered a violation.

It may be that non-residents can bring such rifles into Maryland for courses, but I will definitely learn the details before bringing a rifle to a SOTAR class.

[Ivanhoe]

Back in the 90s, when I lived in Virginia, I attended a GSSF match in MD. My understanding of the rules at the time was that I was technically OK as long as I was driving to the match, participating in the match, and driving back out of state. I made sure I did not need a bathroom break anywhere in MD, as that could be construed as violating the law.

[Markus Becker]

14 hours ago, shep854 said:

Depends on Maryland law and the zeal of the cops.  'The [Maryland] law prohibits the possession, sale, transfer, or purchase of specific military-style firearms, including the AR-15 and AK-47, and limits gun magazines to 10 rounds', so even a disassembled and locked rifle may be considered a violation.

Huh? Didn't the Supreme Court rule thstbyou can't ban firearms that are in common use? And both the AK and AR are quite common, aren't they? 

[Tim Sielbeck]

Yes, they did.  That, however, does not stop stupid, corrupt people from passing such laws.

Edited September 3, 2024 by Tim Sielbeck

[shep854]

2 hours ago, Markus Becker said:

Huh? Didn't the Supreme Court rule thstbyou can't ban firearms that are in common use? And both the AK and AR are quite common, aren't they? 

There is all sorts of lawfare, financed by billionare activists, that continually challenge legal findings and seek to bankrupt 2A-related businesses with repeated frivolous lawsuits.

[shep854]

From the SOTAR website, 'Course Information':

(Weapons Prohibited in Maryland)

ANY AR15 Rifle or Carbine that was OWNED on/after 10/1/2013 that has 2 or MORE Features. These features are referred to as “Copy Cat Features”:
NOTE: Evil Features Include:

1) Folding Stock (COLLAPSIBLE STOCK DOES NOT APPLY)

2) Flash Hider (Sound Suppressor/Silencers COUNT as a Flash Hider)

3) Grenade Launcher

 

[Markus Becker]

4 minutes ago, shep854 said:

3) Grenade Launcher

I'm pretty sure rifle grenades are not even legal as NFA items. 

[Ssnake]

Dammit. Not even in Nevada?

[Stuart Galbraith]

But what about home defence against Bigfoot?

[Ssnake]

I mean, AIUI, Nevada allows private ownership of non-demilitarized tanks. A 40mm grenade launcher on a semi-auto seems tame in comparison, though concealment is somewhat easier.

[Tim Sielbeck]

43 minutes ago, Markus Becker said:

I'm pretty sure rifle grenades are not even legal as NFA items. 

I think the ones that are colour markers are allowed as they don't go boom.

[R011]

13 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

I mean, AIUI, Nevada allows private ownership of non-demilitarized tanks. A 40mm grenade launcher on a semi-auto seems tame in comparison, though concealment is somewhat easier.

You need a big trench coat indeed to hide a T-55.

 

[shep854]

17 minutes ago, Tim Sielbeck said:

I think the ones that are colour markers are allowed as they don't go boom.

Yep, chalk rounds are legal--unless they aren't. 😒

[Ivanhoe]

2 hours ago, Markus Becker said:

I'm pretty sure rifle grenades are not even legal as NFA items. 

"destructive devices"

https://crosshairstexas.com/atf-policies-suppressors-nfa-information/

AIUI, 40mm grenades are a "destructive devices"

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-27/chapter-II/subchapter-B/part-479

 

Quote

 

Destructive device.

(a) Any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas

(1) bomb,

(2) grenade,

(3) rocket having a propellent charge of more than 4 ounces,

(4) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce,

(5) mine, or

(6) similar device;

 

 

 

 

[17thfabn]

4 hours ago, Ssnake said:

I mean, AIUI, Nevada allows private ownership of non-demilitarized tanks. A 40mm grenade launcher on a semi-auto seems tame in comparison, though concealment is somewhat easier.

I've heard of people launching golf balls with a SKS rifle grenade launcher.