Firearms of note and ridicule

[Stuart Galbraith]

If you are going to end up in a fight in a phone booth, may as well bring all the tools.

[shep854]

1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

If you are going to end up in a fight in a phone booth, may as well bring all the tools.

I just watched a video about the battle for Tarawa Atoll, and there was a LOT of bayonet and knife fighting inside enemy bunkers.

Edited June 18, 2024 by shep854

[17thfabn]

2 hours ago, shep854 said:

I just watched a video about the battle for Tarawa Atoll, and there was a LOT of bayonet and knife fighting inside enemy bunkers.

Knife & Bayonet fighting inside a bunker is silly. Throw in a liberal amount of grenades both frag and or white phosphorus. Or a satchel charge. 20 lbs of TNT would have an effect.

There was a quote, I think by USMC General Geiger, don't send a marine where you can send a bullet to do the job. I'm sure I've mangled the quote, and maybe the source.

Why send a man into a bunker when you can send an explosive or incendiary device instead. 

[Markus Becker]

3 hours ago, shep854 said:

I just watched a video about the battle for Tarawa Atoll, and there was a LOT of bayonet and knife fighting inside enemy bunkers.

Link? 

[rmgill]

Bayonets are also good for controlling EPWs. 

[shep854]

On 6/18/2024 at 10:44 AM, 17thfabn said:

Knife & Bayonet fighting inside a bunker is silly. Throw in a liberal amount of grenades both frag and or white phosphorus. Or a satchel charge. 20 lbs of TNT would have an effect.

There was a quote, I think by USMC General Geiger, don't send a marine where you can send a bullet to do the job. I'm sure I've mangled the quote, and maybe the source.

Why send a man into a bunker when you can send an explosive or incendiary device instead. 

Japanese soldiers had a nasty habit of re-occupying knocked out bunkers from tunnels--and Marines LOVE explosives, not to mention flamethrowers.  Many times, it came down to cold steel to secure the defenses. 

[shep854]

On 6/18/2024 at 11:58 AM, Markus Becker said:

Link? 

First of three:

 

[Markus Becker]

Be prepared for some heresy by no other than Gun Jesus. 

 

 

[shep854]

3 hours ago, Markus Becker said:

Be prepared for some heresy by no other than Gun Jesus. 

 

 

Not really; that was the way people saw it back then.

[shep854]

Commonwealth cousins banging on:

 

Edited June 28, 2024 by shep854

[bojan]

24 minutes ago, shep854 said:

Not really; that was the way people saw it back then.

Pistols were such status symbol among Yugo partisans and other resistance movements* but none have really considered pistol anything more than a status symbol or very, very occasional self protection tool (often vs wildlife in forests). If you were using pistol in combat you were either really desperate (in 1941. a lot of that happened) or in a really bad situation.

*USAF has issued order to aircrews that in case of rescue of shot down airman by locals said airman was supposed to leave personal weapon to them before being transferred back (to allied held parts of) Italy. Friend's grandfather got 1911 that way and it is still with a friend.

Edited June 28, 2024 by bojan

[shep854]

12 hours ago, bojan said:

Pistols were such status symbol among Yugo partisans and other resistance movements* but none have really considered pistol anything more than a status symbol or very, very occasional self protection tool (often vs wildlife in forests). If you were using pistol in combat you were either really desperate (in 1941. a lot of that happened) or in a really bad situation.

*USAF has issued order to aircrews that in case of rescue of shot down airman by locals said airman was supposed to leave personal weapon to them before being transferred back (to allied held parts of) Italy. Friend's grandfather got 1911 that way and it is still with a friend.

I've seen it noted that in Iraq, the only soldiers the locals were really scared of were the ones wearing pistols.

[shep854]

[17thfabn]

1 hour ago, shep854 said:

Is that one of those deadly .22 LR zip assault rifles? 

[shep854]

1 hour ago, 17thfabn said:

Is that one of those deadly .22 LR zip assault rifles? 

My guess is they were pipe shotguns.

[Markus Becker]

Poland goes into AK optics.

https://playeur.com/v/NSMUsSs-TbS

 

Set the sights for a longer range and problem mitigated.

[shep854]

7 hours ago, Markus Becker said:

Poland goes into AK optics.

https://playeur.com/v/NSMUsSs-TbS

 

Set the sights for a longer range and problem mitigated.

I noticed he dropped it onto the shooting mat.  That in itself makes me question the mount's ruggedness.

[Ivanhoe]

US Marine with a Springfield M1903A1 sniper rifle and Unertl 8x scope, Korea 1951;

[Markus Becker]

14 hours ago, shep854 said:

I noticed he dropped it onto the shooting mat.  That in itself makes me question the mount's ruggedness.

Question: What would happen to a WW2/Korean War/Vietnam War era optic if the rifle had been dropped from two yards? 

[shep854]

5 hours ago, Markus Becker said:

Question: What would happen to a WW2/Korean War/Vietnam War era optic if the rifle had been dropped from two yards? 

Obviously, it would probably be damaged. 

But, we're not talking about those delicate, fragile, far less capable units.

Edited July 1, 2024 by shep854

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[shep854]

2 hours ago, Tim Sielbeck said:

 

A fully semi-automatic flintmatchlock!

A good video, Forgotten Weapons going back to its roots.

[Markus Becker]

18 hours ago, shep854 said:

Obviously, it would probably be damaged. 

But, we're not talking about those delicate, fragile, far less capable units.

We are having first world problems. 

[shep854]

1 hour ago, Markus Becker said:

We are having first world problems. 

You use the best you can get, whatever 'best' happens to be.

[Markus Becker]

On 7/2/2024 at 2:48 AM, shep854 said:

A fully semi-automatic flintmatchlock!

A good video, Forgotten Weapons going back to its roots.

He followed it up with something similarly weird.