shep854 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Markus Becker said: This is going to be... good enough. 😉 Branson is a treasure! Solid information, regardless of who it helps or hinders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 12 hours ago, shep854 said: Branson is a treasure! Solid information, regardless of who it helps or hinders! Ahh. He was Oleg’s attorney for the Fracas over The High Road. He stayed at my house on their trip down to Statesville, Ga for the hearing. I wondered what he’d been up to after taking down his legal shingle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, rmgill said: Ahh. He was Oleg’s attorney for the Fracas over The High Road. He stayed at my house on their trip down to Statesville, Ga for the hearing. I wondered what he’d been up to after taking down his legal shingle. The guy gets around. That's quite a shift from lawyer to optics expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 He saw the light?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 My favourite online restoration guy restores a Vietnam war RPG-2 (B40) grenade launcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 He said Jehova! Again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 He's Gun Jesus. He can say his dad's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Wins the thread. The slo-mo is AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Markus Becker said: He said Jehova! Again! Thing is, what he or anyone else calls something does not make it only term, or even correct one to be called. I prefer designations by most basic principle of operation - repeating, semi-automatic and automatic. Everything else tends to lead to cherrypicking cases to defend your side. So you either take French calling FAMAS "assault rifle" as proof, or you look at Austrians and Swiss who called what Ian calls "battle rifles" "assault rifle". Edited April 10 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 Are we really going to use or cite HK’s marketing department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) FN thinks the same. So does Steyr. Ian thinks different. Why is his opinion more valid than their, or v/v? Edited April 11 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I find the term helpful to distinguish between select fire rifles that use intermediary rounds and those that use full power rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) 5 hours ago, bojan said: FN thinks the same. So does Steyr. Ian thinks different. Why is his opinion more valid than their, or v/v? Thus the Protestant Doctrine on Assault Rifles against the Doctrine of Gun Jesus on Battle Rifles was born. Or a schism. Whatever. Edited April 12 by sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I don't think that there is any firearms term that is not 'flexible'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 14 hours ago, sunday said: Thus the Protestant Doctrine on Assault Rifles against the Doctrine of Gun Jesus on Battle Rifles was born. Or a schism. Whatever. Wouldn't at least FN count as Catholic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 26 minutes ago, Markus Becker said: Wouldn't at least FN count as Catholic? Not sure, plenty of francmasons in that part of Belgium. I'd put my hopes in Beretta, SIG or Steyr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) Steyr and Beretta also considers 7.62x51mm automatic rifles "assault rifle". European SIG is dead. Also, if we could adopt original military terminology and... vz.58 would be "SMG" (Samopal) since Czech call so any automatic weapons that is not a MG. So both vz.61 Skorpion and 7.62x51mm version of BREN-2 automatic rifle are "SMGs" Soviets/Russians have pretty well defined terminology that covers well their small arms. But issues start when you try to apply it to someone else weapons. Hence M16 is "автоматическая винтовка" - automatic rifle. M4 is however "автомат", which is another designation for "automatic carbine". Carbine is defined as having "barrel length of 500mm or shorter"... Even local terminology that defines rifles by their basic system of operation (repeating/semi-auto/automatic) has it's kinks, as it uses a role to define what is a LMG/SAW (puškomitraljez - literal translation of French "Fusil-mitrailleur"). So RPK, PKM, MG42, MG08/15 or any other MG are same category, as long as they are used from bipod, as they are used as squad MG. Adding additional civilian, US-centric terms to that hot mess... I really see no point in that. Especially as ill defined terms as "battle rifle". PS. As much as Ian is great source on mechanical part of firearms he mostly knows next to nothing about how those firearms are actually used in combat. Especially things other than rifles*. And as any civilian w/o any military experience does, he gives way to much importance to the rifle** compared to all other weapons, since again he does not know how all those weapons are used in symbiosis. *Look at his talk about AKs with Larry Vickers and his inability to comprehend that overall efficiency of US Army would not change one bit if they were issued bare-bones AKs, or any other rifle instead of guccied M4s. ** It is same syndrome with loads of medieval YT channels being obsessed with swords, when those were basically last ditch backup weapons. Edited April 12 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAM Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) On 3/13/2024 at 2:19 PM, sunday said: USN did not use gunpods in Phantoms. At least one F-4J carried a Vulcan gunpod, stationed on USS America during the 1968 Vietnam cruise. The pilot posing next to the gunpod is Lt. Bill Beardsley of VF-102. Beardsley later flew with the Blue Angels, during the 1971-1972 seasons. Edited April 13 by JDAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 41 minutes ago, JDAM said: At least one F-4J carried a Vulcan gunpod, stationed on USS America during the 1968 Vietnam cruise. The pilot posing next to the gunpod is Lt. Bill Beardsley of VF-102. Beardsley later flew with the Blue Angels, during the 1971-1972 seasons. (...) Could be an outlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 On 4/11/2024 at 8:49 PM, sunday said: Thus the Protestant Doctrine on Assault Rifles against the Doctrine of Gun Jesus on Battle Rifles was born. Or a schism. Whatever. So Mote it Be! 😀 How many Angels can dance on the head of a firing pin designed by John Moses Browing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 On 4/12/2024 at 10:53 AM, shep854 said: I don't think that there is any firearms term that is not 'flexible'. Fixed Brownings ain't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 Garand Thumb and crew play around with Q's new 8.6 Blackout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 41 minutes ago, rmgill said: So Mote it Be! 😀 How many Angels can dance on the head of a firing pin designed by John Moses Browing? Angels are inmaterial, so infinite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, rmgill said: Fixed Brownings ain't. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 America's worst service rifle: https://playeur.com/v/_uaPTjp8RlO Fail wise I'm more impressed by the idea of the M15 LMG. The USA does in the 50s, when GPMG become "The Thing" what FN had already done in the early 30s with the Model D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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