lucklucky Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Burned down T-72 with ERA? http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?215986-Today-s-Pix-Tuesday-August-7th-2012 Edited August 9, 2012 by lucklucky
alejandro_ Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 I have been using the link below to identify the T-72 versions used in Lybia. T-72AV are identified because of ERA tiles, but how can you tell that they are not T-72M1 + ERA? http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1318
DavidDCM Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 The externally visible differences are in your link. 8 KMT mounts vs 4 KMT mounts, radiation lining, a 3rd stowage box at 7 o'clock. Of course, a lot of images from the Syrian conflict are too blurry or otherwise unsuited to see such details. "T-72AV" however is just the general nomer for all T-72 tanks with the wedge shaped Kontakt-1 array.
Harkonnen Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) I have been using the link below to identify the T-72 versions used in Lybia. T-72AV are identified because of ERA tiles, but how can you tell that they are not T-72M1 + ERA? http://www.armyrecog...opic.php?t=1318 Actually export T-72M with ERA was called T-72M-1M, but the syrians were modernized to AV standart. Edited August 16, 2012 by Harkonnen
crazyinsane105 Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 One hell of a video. T-62 gets hit by an IED, rolls down a hill while on fire, but the crew still manages to jump out and escape. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c72_1345023359 Quite surprised the ammunition didn't cook off and destroy the entire tank.
bojan Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 Only external fuel tanks cough fire, if they had any support and fire extinguisher tank would be perfectly salvageable.Inserted picture near the end shows tank not burning and in OK condition, it was probably blown up later.
pikachu Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 One hell of a video. T-62 gets hit by an IED, rolls down a hill while on fire, but the crew still manages to jump out and escape. http://www.liveleak....=c72_1345023359 Quite surprised the ammunition didn't cook off and destroy the entire tank. From the looks of it the fire was fully external. The tank was probably hit on the sponsons and the unprotected fuel tanks there were lit up. The engine and the interior of the tank don't seem to have been affected until after the crew abandoned it. It appears that in the end the ammo did cook off. We can see a bright flash and hear a loud explosion near the end.
Max H Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 It appears that in the end the ammo did cook off. We can see a bright flash and hear a loud explosion near the end. The explosion seems at lot faster than other ammo cook-off's I've seen videos of. Perhaps that was the demolition charge to render it unserviceable?
shep854 Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 It appears that in the end the ammo did cook off. We can see a bright flash and hear a loud explosion near the end. The explosion seems at lot faster than other ammo cook-off's I've seen videos of. Perhaps that was the demolition charge to render it unserviceable?I thought ammo as well. Perhaps the tank was almost out of ammo when it was hit?
pikachu Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 It appears that in the end the ammo did cook off. We can see a bright flash and hear a loud explosion near the end. The explosion seems at lot faster than other ammo cook-off's I've seen videos of. Perhaps that was the demolition charge to render it unserviceable?I thought ammo as well. Perhaps the tank was almost out of ammo when it was hit? Well, the flash only occurred once but after that there's this sound that's kinda like thunder or a very rapid set of low rumbles. Maybe there was one big explosion of a lot of ammo stored in one place, then followed by a chain of very rapid explosions of the rest. Either that or the tank was running mostly empty, which does make sense as they were mostly used as bunker busters and mobile pillboxes against an infantry force. BTW, I'm actually surprised at the lack of kickass technicals from the Syrian conflict. Where are the BMP-turreted Hiluxes?
Rod Posted August 19, 2012 Author Posted August 19, 2012 I think the last loud explosion sounded like a RPG being launched at the now abandoned T-62. Kind of suicide sending tanks in MOUT without a coordinated infantry back-up. BTW- Can anyone design a software that would mute the sound anytime a "Allahu Akbar" is chanted and I say this knowing that about 95% of the dialogue on these rebel videos are "Allahu Akbar".
Max H Posted August 19, 2012 Posted August 19, 2012 Well, the flash only occurred once but after that there's this sound that's kinda like thunder or a very rapid set of low rumbles. At 2:50 I'm pretty sure that's just wind on the camera microphone I think the last loud explosion sounded like a RPG being launched at the now abandoned T-62. True, that makes a lot of sense
shep854 Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 http://www.liveleak....=ba1_1343232598Either that was a remotely operated camera or the operator was nutz. A very interesting angle, tho. If I saw that, I'd be trying hard to be somewhere else!
Sardaukar Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 http://www.liveleak....=ba1_1343232598Either that was a remotely operated camera or the operator was nutz. A very interesting angle, tho. If I saw that, I'd be trying hard to be somewhere else! I'd say remotely operated. Human would flinch, even if camera would be on tripod..so it'd show.
Mr King Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I think the lack of chanting of God is Great pretty much signifies it was remote operated.
shep854 Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I think the lack of chanting of God is Great pretty much signifies it was remote operated.Good one! I hit mute when it came up, so I missed that clue.
geronimo Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 You need a photo hosting site like Image Shack or Photo Bucket to post pictures on the forum hh60g!
Daan Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) Brave / stupid rebel attempts to attack a T-72 from the front: http://youtu.be/0YsXs-B86QA Edited August 26, 2012 by Daan
shep854 Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Looks to me like he got a nice hit on the pick-up. Hard to tell through the smoke, but it appears the tank was only scorched.
Daan Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Video (of aftermath) of possible tank vs tank engagement: http://youtu.be/oJI1S4axHfc and it burns:http://youtu.be/UiIMBsvxlQ8
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