Tanks in Syrian Revolt

[FkDahl]

Western supported freedom fighters (*) with captured T-72

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=571_1355049300

 

And in that speeded up voice at the end of ads:

* any similarity with Wahabbists, Salafists or any of the kind of people we have been fighting in Iraq or Afghanistans is purely coincidental and should not be used for political considerations

[Nikolas93TS]

I am going to market a product I plan to call 'The Arabic Alarm Clock'. You set it for a certain time, and at that time it starts squawking 'Allahu Ackbar!'.

 

 

Shot

 

http://youtu.be/X7_0NoRHOEM

[Djuice]

The "Ackbar" tank...

 

 

 

 

[Simon Tan]

Not TANK. Armored Car. Strassenbahnpanzer.

[FkDahl]

Nice site with Middle Eastern tanks as theme

http://milinme.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/civil-war-in-syria-7/

[mnm]

Now if that had tracks instead of wheel it would be perfect for the Gav!n NG.

[Galen.Wright]

There's something delightfully post-modern about using TV/game-controller to control an AFV in a conflict that has depended so heavily on "the screen" (Youtube, etc) to mobilize local and international support for the insurgency.

[Simon Tan]

It's not. It's a simple reality that CCD cameras and flatscreens are so much more available and cheaper than a prismatic episcope.

[rmgill]

As locally innovative as that is I suspect it'll be PKM or DSHK bait in short order.

[Rod]

What damaged the back of the hull that it peeled the armor:

Nice site with Middle Eastern tanks as theme

http://milinme.wordp...war-in-syria-7/

Edited December 11, 2012 by Rod

[X-Files]

What damaged the back of the hull that it peeled the armor:

 

Looks like swaths of thick paint spalled off from the heat of the fire.

[Daan]

Stationary T-55s receiving hits from SPG-9s:

http://youtu.be/2zeiiM0arl0

 

http://youtu.be/v0rVSCiHB0s

Edited December 12, 2012 by Daan

[Daan]

New rebel weapon design: "Harasta", a moving RC car bomb.

http://youtu.be/YwkTjjzbEt0

[RETAC21]

Poor man's cruise missile?

[TonyE]

Poor man`s Goliath. The Rube Goldberg contraptions these guys (Arab Springers) cough up can be fairly surprising.

[DavidDCM]

Stationary T-55s receiving hits from SPG-9s:

http://youtu.be/2zeiiM0arl0

 

Despite heroic slo-mo repetition, the round hit the building's awning (correct term?) and nothing else.

[rmgill]

Probably a pretty sneaky place to hide to protect against low velocity incoming fire.

[mnm]

Poor man's cruise missile?

 

This reminds me of a car I used to have: it had a will of its own but couldn't get anywhere

 

Yessir, nothing less suspicious than a car moving alone with nobody at the wheel!

Edited December 13, 2012 by mnm

[Daan]

Footage of camera mounted on turret of regime T-72:

http://youtu.be/zr_G6_7Ijb4

 

Report (45 min) of battle by Russian TV, including a camera on a BMP-2 driving through a damaged city. The BMP-2 occasionally fires at random.

http://youtu.be/mtLyqaT7DQc

[Gavin-Phillips]

Some interesting video footage posted in the links above.

 

The BMP-2's don't look in too bad of a shape even if they are missing their side skirts to some extent. The T-72's on the other hand... Does anyone know when Syria got they last shipment of armoured vehicles? These ones must surely have been kicking around for some time or really have been hammered before they were captured? T-72M with ERA?

 

Seeing all of the dust rain down from the damaged buildings next to the T-72 when it fires demonstrates how powerful the blast effect (for want of a better term) is.

[Andrew Jaremkow]

Seeing all of the dust rain down from the damaged buildings next to the T-72 when it fires demonstrates how powerful the blast effect (for want of a better term) is.

 

Yes, the muzzle blast from the second shot at 2:33 removes the top couple of feet of the of the adjacent (cinder block? brick?) wall over a 10' wide area. Very potent!

 

I was surprised that the first two machine gun bursts (1:34) missed their targets. Instead of going into the windows they hit the sills immediately below the windows. Bad alignment of the machine guns with the sights? Insufficient elevation at this close range? Unless they're trying to shoot through the walls at anyone hiding below the window, but I wouldn't have thought the machine guns would be powerful enough to accomplish that.

 

The impenetrable cloud of brick and concrete dust after the main gun shots certainly an obstacle. Can thermal imagers see through this sort of dust cloud, or would they be obscured too?

 

Some non-combat questions: what are the big white and red tanks all over the roofs for? Part of the water supply?

[Nikolas93TS]

If I remember correctly,so take with grain of salt,last batch was in 1989.Small part was modernized from 1998 onward.

 

BMP-2 was rarely seen before the uprising,and they were delivered and entered service somewhere between late 1987 and 1994 (differs by source),but only for most elite and loyal units.Older BMP-1 make bulk of IFVs force.

[Rod]

They would have been better off putting a block of C4 on top of a small off-road RC car that you can buy at any Toys R Us

 

 

Poor man's cruise missile?

[rmgill]

I was surprised that the first two machine gun bursts (1:34) missed their targets. Instead of going into the windows they hit the sills immediately below the windows. Bad alignment of the machine guns with the sights? Insufficient elevation at this close range? Unless they're trying to shoot through the walls at anyone hiding below the window, but I wouldn't have thought the machine guns would be powerful enough to accomplish that.

 

That's lack of accounting for sight offset at what is point blank range.

 

Think about where the optics are on the tank compared to the gun and the Coax MG.

Edited December 17, 2012 by rmgill

[Daan]

T-72 hit by some projectile:

http://youtu.be/tfJ4KHq2mnU

 

Show of force in city streets by platoon of T-72s and BMP-2 (perhaps the same unit as seen earlier):

http://youtu.be/8DjsPgg29dE

Edited December 19, 2012 by Daan