Tanks in Syrian Revolt

[Tomi Sarvanko]

Rare Tank vs Tank video.

Rebel T72 stalks a T55 and puts a HEAT round to the hull front close range.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhfZliWeLmM

Edited November 6, 2012 by Tomi Sarvanko

[lucklucky]

It seems fired twice.

[Stefan Kotsch]

an fired short

[EchoFiveMike]

How the Hell do you miss at 300-400m? I could make that shot with a freaking pistol. S/F....Ken M

 

Those SPG-9 guys should have engaged again. The quick camera cutaway tends to indicate no results.

Edited November 6, 2012 by EchoFiveMike

[Galen.Wright]

Another ad-hoc BMP-technical

http://youtu.be/HV1_Pv-DGPs

[shep854]

Rare Tank vs Tank video.

Rebel T72 stalks a T55 and puts a HEAT round to the hull front close range.

 

Looks to me like #2 was an anchor shot. The T-55 looks like it was starting to burn after the first shot, but the rebels wanted to make sure.

[Chris Werb]

How the Hell do you miss at 300-400m? I could make that shot with a freaking pistol. S/F....Ken M

 

It's hard to tell, but looking at the size of the buildings and the spacing between the phone/electric poles I suspect the range was 200 at the outside and possibly much less. They could have sighted by opening the breech and looking straight down the bore.

[EchoFiveMike]

Yep, I think you're right Chris. S/F....Ken M

[Simon Tan]

darn monkey models

[Tomi Sarvanko]

It hit with both rounds. The T55 is smoking after the first hit.

 

In this video there seems to be the same tank. Undermanned (no TC) and the gunner does not have a helmet (no com).

 

They seem to know the basics. Fire and movement. Good show from the untrained monkeys in a monkey model.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XnLrD0YisQ

[Exel]

Here's some pictures from the conflict: http://ir-ingr.livejournal.com/1185799.html

 

Interestingly the rebels have got their hands on a Steyr AUG and I think I saw a Czech vz.58 in there as well. There's also the pride of any self-respecting uprising: a Toyota technical firing rockets.

[Sardaukar]

Here's some pictures from the conflict: http://ir-ingr.livej...om/1185799.html

 

Interestingly the rebels have got their hands on a Steyr AUG and I think I saw a Czech vz.58 in there as well. There's also the pride of any self-respecting uprising: a Toyota technical firing rockets.

 

Those pics really bring it in...not nice ones. Especially where the apparently unarmed guy gets it (note the bullet hole in forehead).

[Simon Tan]

It's a civil war....in the middle east.....between different sects.....

[Sardaukar]

It's a civil war....in the middle east.....between different sects.....

 

Indeed. Civil Wars bring out best in people...

[Simon Tan]

Fought by a mish mash of defectors, irrgulars, jihadis, foreigners etc. Conflict without formal structure and order on either side. Much more like FRY(Esp.Bosnia) than the ACW.

[Daan]

[pikachu]

Fought by a mish mash of defectors, irrgulars, jihadis, foreigners etc. Conflict without formal structure and order on either side. Much more like FRY(Esp.Bosnia) than the ACW.

 

Given that we've mostly been seeing the rebel side of the story, I wonder how the Assad side is really doing. I mean, the Loyalist army should be a lot less rag-tag than the rebels in theory. In fact, back during the opening stages they were quite effective when they deployed. It was only later as the conflagration spread across the entire country that they became kinda helpless, but we do know that planes still fly on a regular basis bombing rebel positions, and tanks are still deployed in decent numbers. What would the corresponding photographs from the Syrian Loyalist army look like?

[Simon Tan]

If you ignore the fact that the Army is fractured, demoralized and not entirey trusted or the government irregulars like the shabiha, the PLFPF-GC, Hez and Quds 'advisors' etc.

The pic above is of government armor, see the 'UAR' Syrian flag. The FSA/rebels use the old Republic flag which is green,white and black with red stars. They look well used, with superficial damage (fenders, skirts, IR searchlight). Not dissimilar from some of the Libyan armor from their civil war. The lack of cables and shackles suggests that battlefiedl recovery is not a priority, which again is not unexpected for this military.

[Gavin-Phillips]

Some very powerful pictures there. Someone's really risking both life and limb to bring such images back for the masses to see.

 

The Steyr AUG (original model?) making an appearence caught my eye, but so did something else and I was wondering if anyone could identify what weapon this is; the man 2nd from the right has what might be a submachine gun with a perforated barrel design? Now I do recall hearing reports of Schmeisser MP40's being used during the Chechnya conflict (late 90's) but does anyone hazard a guess at what this weapon might be?

 

 

Best regards

 

Gavin

[shep854]

Sterling. If you look close, you can see the mag over on the left side, going over the holder's shoulder.

Edited November 12, 2012 by shep854

[Max H]

Sterling?

 

Well played, shep

Edited November 12, 2012 by Max H

[shep854]

Deleted. Another wasted post...

Edited November 12, 2012 by shep854

[Simon Tan]

Which countries have the AUG and Sterling in numbers, in storage?

[Gavin-Phillips]

Thanks for the replies. It just looked very...incongruous when seen amongst all those AK's, PK's and what I could assume to be SGMT's (pictured with a bipod on the truck and driver/passenger appears to have one as well).

 

I could see someone making a mint from producing scale models of that BMP-1 turreted technical. Cool looking vehicle.

[bojan]

Simon, Qatar.