Ivanhoe Posted June 26, 2025 Posted June 26, 2025 Of course I can't find it now, but there's a meme running about concerning the possible choice of Aaron Pierre as the next Bond; the meme says "James out on Bond". No respect. 😆
NickM Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 Recollecting one of those 1960s ensemble adventure comedies (like for ex: those daring young men in their flying machines etc) at the end of the movie one of the 'femme fatales' (a Cardinale, Lollobrigida, Virna LIsi clone) was working her 'charms' on a rather older and kind of eccentric British dude (sort of a Terry Thomas type). He responded (and this might NOT be an exact quote), "My Dear Girl, that won't work on me==I'm a devout homosexual". Looking for both movie and actor, if y'all know it.
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 17 hours ago, Ivanhoe said: Of course I can't find it now, but there's a meme running about concerning the possible choice of Aaron Pierre as the next Bond; the meme says "James out on Bond". No respect. 😆 Considering whom they just picked as director, Id put money on it being Timothee Chalamet.
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 3 hours ago, NickM said: Recollecting one of those 1960s ensemble adventure comedies (like for ex: those daring young men in their flying machines etc) at the end of the movie one of the 'femme fatales' (a Cardinale, Lollobrigida, Virna LIsi clone) was working her 'charms' on a rather older and kind of eccentric British dude (sort of a Terry Thomas type). He responded (and this might NOT be an exact quote), "My Dear Girl, that won't work on me==I'm a devout homosexual". Looking for both movie and actor, if y'all know it. A rough guess, I suspect the film you are looking for is either Modesty Blaise, or possibly even the original Casino Royale. I cant say I recall it in either, but Blaise has Dirk Bogarde hamming it up as possibly the worlds gayest man, and it would fit. Just a guess mind you.
Stargrunt6 Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 11 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Considering whom they just picked as director, Id put money on it being Timothee Chalamet.
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 (edited) Someone made an interesting thread on reddit, asking what the worst combination for a bond film could be. I said Joaquin Phoenix as Bond, directed by Tinto Brass, and the theme done The Buggles. Don't know who to make the villain. Will Smith would be good, he wouldn't even need a henchman. Edited June 27, 2025 by Stuart Galbraith
Stargrunt6 Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 Or Will Smith doing the soundtrack. Click to read the comments.
Yama Posted June 29, 2025 Posted June 29, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 9:12 PM, Stargrunt6 said: Regarding Amazon's reported desire to produce James Bond spinoffs and "Extender universe" - I think idea of "young James Bond" would be an awful idea. All the typical traits of James Bond - gambling, womanizing, drinking - would be intolerable to follow from ~20 year old character.
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 29, 2025 Posted June 29, 2025 (edited) There was one graphic novel that featured him as a sub Lieutenant on a RN destroyer. I think there is a lot of potential in it, if they didn't screw it up. I think the safest spin off is a series based on Ana de Armas character. Maybe Felix Leiter, before he got an arm and leg gnawed off, natch. Edited June 29, 2025 by Stuart Galbraith
Ivanhoe Posted June 29, 2025 Posted June 29, 2025 2 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: I think the safest spin off is a series based on Ana de Armas character. Maybe Felix Leiter, before he got an arm and leg gnawed off, natch. A well-done spinoff would kick butt. A lot of fun could be had reprising Naomie Harris as Moneypenny. Classy executive assistant cover by day, surveillance operative by night. Sexy outfits, because of course. Or Halle Berry reprising Jinx. Retired from the CIA, liquidating cartelistas and dictators with extreme sexiness prejudice.
Yama Posted June 29, 2025 Posted June 29, 2025 3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: There was one graphic novel that featured him as a sub Lieutenant on a RN destroyer. I think there is a lot of potential in it, if they didn't screw it up. If they made 'WW2 era Bond" style spinoff, that might make sense. Modern era 'young Bond' in same vein as 'young Indiana Jones' - no. I don't think Bond franchise has great potential for extended universe or spinoffs. Nearly entire character cast is written to support or mirror Bond.
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 9 hours ago, Yama said: If they made 'WW2 era Bond" style spinoff, that might make sense. Modern era 'young Bond' in same vein as 'young Indiana Jones' - no. I don't think Bond franchise has great potential for extended universe or spinoffs. Nearly entire character cast is written to support or mirror Bond. Yeah, id hate that too. Reading the novels (thankfully they are all on archive.org so I can read the originals not the wokified ones), there seems to be an interesting backstory between M and Bond, supposedly they met in the war, presumably in the navy. So that could work. As long as they dont work a pederasty angle in. Well its Amazon, not Disney, so probably not. Young Q might be good too. 'Desmond, have you blown the shed up again?' I do agree that most of the cast is just to support Bond. But you get some like Leiter that is just a bit more than that. 10 hours ago, Ivanhoe said: A well-done spinoff would kick butt. A lot of fun could be had reprising Naomie Harris as Moneypenny. Classy executive assistant cover by day, surveillance operative by night. Sexy outfits, because of course. Or Halle Berry reprising Jinx. Retired from the CIA, liquidating cartelistas and dictators with extreme sexiness prejudice. Lashana Lynch as the 'new' 007 might be quite interesting too. Personally I think a female Bond would be an interesting offshoot. Do they get slut shamed for shagging their way through the film/series like Bond does? I dont know, it would be an interesting theme to explore.
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 Sure. They could spin that to being a neat story about the WW2 Ark Royal, including the sinking. There is a book ive currently put aside for the moment about Operation Postmaster, and Flemings role in it. That was recently dramatized as the ministry of ungentlemanly warfare. From my understanding, Fleming's 'universal export' is more closely based upon the wartime SOE than it is the actual SIS, including apparently the 00 numbers which were a designation they had training to kill. So you only have to look back at all the WW2 SOE operations, to see there is really quite some fertile ground for Bond to find his feet. Perhaps they could even team him up with Anders Lasson. I could easily see Bond fitting easily into SOE or the wartime SBS. https://theweek.com/defence/sbs-raid/45784/meet-sbs-one-man-strangled-nine-germans-his-bare-hands There is a telling scene in the beginning of Dr No, where a doctor says he has been in near constant stress since WW2, and his body is wearing out, and M pretty much blows the doctor off. It would set the tone pretty well to set up a drama where he progresses in smaller scale stuff in WW2 and the early cold war (Berlin?), and then progresses to the real enemies of Western Society, crazy Oligarchs.
Soren Ras Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Sure. They could spin that to being a neat story about the WW2 Ark Royal, including the sinking. There is a book ive currently put aside for the moment about Operation Postmaster, and Flemings role in it. That was recently dramatized as the ministry of ungentlemanly warfare. From my understanding, Fleming's 'universal export' is more closely based upon the wartime SOE than it is the actual SIS, including apparently the 00 numbers which were a designation they had training to kill. So you only have to look back at all the WW2 SOE operations, to see there is really quite some fertile ground for Bond to find his feet. Perhaps they could even team him up with Anders Lasson. I could easily see Bond fitting easily into SOE or the wartime SBS. https://theweek.com/defence/sbs-raid/45784/meet-sbs-one-man-strangled-nine-germans-his-bare-hands There is a telling scene in the beginning of Dr No, where a doctor says he has been in near constant stress since WW2, and his body is wearing out, and M pretty much blows the doctor off. It would set the tone pretty well to set up a drama where he progresses in smaller scale stuff in WW2 and the early cold war (Berlin?), and then progresses to the real enemies of Western Society, crazy Oligarchs. Vienna. After all, M was there at the time in his guise as Sgt Paine (unless that was his real name, of course):
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 That is though a really damn good idea. Postwar Vienna is the perfect place for Bond.
Yama Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 Jurassic World Rebirth: it wasn't an utter turd like two previous JW movies. It had more 'watchable B movie' feel on it, like Jurassic Park III. However, far from feeling a 'rebirth', it felt like an extinction. There was very little 'Jurassic Park' on it anymore, it was much closer to Skull Island. It was just a monster flick. Another major peeve: no respectable paleontologist would ever refer Mosasaur or Pterosaur as 'dinosaurs'. It is really infuriating they keep repeating this in the movies, when franchise originally was more about busting dinosaur cliches. The island itself was far too fantastic to be believable environment. As I said, Skull Island. Only thing missing was a lava river. Plot was very predictable. Some of the creature designs were fantastic though, particularly Quetzalcoatlus and Titanosaurs.
NickM Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 Just now, Yama said: Jurassic World Rebirth: it wasn't an utter turd like two previous JW movies. It had more 'watchable B movie' feel on it, like Jurassic Park III. However, far from feeling a 'rebirth', it felt like an extinction. There was very little 'Jurassic Park' on it anymore, it was much closer to Skull Island. It was just a monster flick. Another major peeve: no respectable paleontologist would ever refer Mosasaur or Pterosaur as 'dinosaurs'. It is really infuriating they keep repeating this in the movies, when franchise originally was more about busting dinosaur cliches. The island itself was far too fantastic to be believable environment. As I said, Skull Island. Only thing missing was a lava river. Plot was very predictable. Some of the creature designs were fantastic though, particularly Quetzalcoatlus and Titanosaurs. So then, visually Gareth Edwards came thru again?
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 4, 2025 Posted July 4, 2025 On 6/29/2025 at 10:20 PM, Ivanhoe said: A well-done spinoff would kick butt. A lot of fun could be had reprising Naomie Harris as Moneypenny. Classy executive assistant cover by day, surveillance operative by night. Sexy outfits, because of course. Or Halle Berry reprising Jinx. Retired from the CIA, liquidating cartelistas and dictators with extreme sexiness prejudice. Someone on a podcast suggested a series on the birth of Spectre, I guess kinda like 'Hannibal Rising.' Reading the first spectre novel right now which is Thunderball, I think that probably has a lot to commend it.
Yama Posted July 4, 2025 Posted July 4, 2025 Yeah....no. "Rise of..." is death's kiss on a spinoff. It's pretty much the ultimate jumping the shark moment.
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 4, 2025 Posted July 4, 2025 I dont know, Blofeld has a really interesting back story. Polish but spying for the Germans, then spying for the British and French. Setting up his own spy agency, vacuuming up French Resistance, Smersh defectors, Tito's spymasters, ex Gestapo, Mafiosi. If you cant make a halfway entertaining story out of that volatile brew, you arent really trying. What really would age the franchise is too much Bond time. Which is why I think going around the edges might be the way to go. Ultimately there is certainly going to be content, they are going to squeeze it as much as they can. One can only hope they do it vaguely intelligently, rather than how Disney did it with Star Wars, and kill the Franchise in under 10 years.
lucklucky Posted July 4, 2025 Posted July 4, 2025 Isn't Bond a Royal Navy commander? maybe picking there and how he went for MI6
Stargrunt6 Posted July 5, 2025 Posted July 5, 2025 On 6/29/2025 at 1:43 PM, Yama said: Regarding Amazon's reported desire to produce James Bond spinoffs and "Extender universe" - I think idea of "young James Bond" would be an awful idea. All the typical traits of James Bond - gambling, womanizing, drinking - would be intolerable to follow from ~20 year old character. Yeah, good point. A womanizing, drinking, gambling 20 something seems . .. average I guess?
Ivanhoe Posted July 5, 2025 Posted July 5, 2025 Horror movies aren't my thing, but if real-person reviews are good I might take a look; https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14808764/?ref_=rlm Welliver usually does a good job selecting roles.
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