Yama Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 Moana 2 was fine. (Called Vaiana here, apparently due to trademark conflict with some porn star....). Plot was similar to the first, except bigger and better. Opening act was somewhat boring with one or two middling songs, but it then rolled along nicely. Bunch of new side characters, they were okay-ish standard Disney templates, except Matangi who was wicked cool. Also lot of slimy toothy monsters, so this might be bit scarier for little ones than the first. Towards the end there were also couple of good songs. Another sequel was heavily implied.
Yama Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) ...and talking about Disney, trailer for 'Live action' Snow White landed, and it looks dreadful Those CGI dwarves are nightmare material. Also, the plot appears to be closer to 'Snow White and the Huntsman' than Disney's old Snow White, with SW becoming some kind of leader for the rebellion. Edited December 14, 2024 by Yama
Ssnake Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 Well, I grew out of singing princesses at about age five.
Ivanhoe Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 Have empathy for parents who will have to endure that swill for months. I recall a friend who was father to two young girls having to listen to "Frozen" 24/7/365.
Yama Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 9 hours ago, Ssnake said: Well, I grew out of singing princesses at about age five. How unfortunate! But don't worry, it's probable you will rekindle your interest by the time you hit 95
Ivanhoe Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 3 hours ago, Yama said: How unfortunate! But don't worry, it's probable you will rekindle your interest by the time you hit 95 Like this one?
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 Never mind, there is always Miley Cyrus.
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 I need to see this. Any movie with Viggens in it has got something going for it.
Yama Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 Says it's a miniseries actually? Tone doesn't seem entirely documentarial Interesting how Cold War is often nowadays portrayed in comedic terms: this year came out Finnish movie The Missile, which portrays cruise missile incident of 1984 in similarly silly overtones. Maybe it's due to film-makers now coming from generation which did not experience it firsthand?
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 Oh, its a miniseries? Excellent. Lets hope it migrates beyond Disney so I might actually see it one day. I dont know, even at the time people were trying to take the piss out of it. Most memorably 'Dr Strangelove', but there was also 'The Russians are Coming!' But yes, distance does make some things easier, such as 'Death of Stalin.' Unless you are Russian of course... Yes, I vaguely heard of that one. I didnt see it of course, we dont tend to get anything unless its about scandinavian serial killers. There was a fairly interesting documentary I was watching about the death of Olaf Palme. There seems to be a drama on Netflix about it as well.
Yama Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Oh, its a miniseries? Excellent. Lets hope it migrates beyond Disney so I might actually see it one day. I dont know, even at the time people were trying to take the piss out of it. Most memorably 'Dr Strangelove', but there was also 'The Russians are Coming!' But yes, distance does make some things easier, such as 'Death of Stalin.' Unless you are Russian of course... Well yea true, there was plenty of satirization even at the time. And why not, Cold War was certainly silly and stupid thing to have, and in retrospect it seems difficult to remember why it felt so serious and depressing.
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 Im disappointed they didnt do a follow up to The death of Stalin on the cuban missile crisis. They could have Jason Issacs playing Castro this time, he's tailor made for it.
Stefan Fredriksson Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 I am not ready to die on it, but I am ready to sprain my ankle on this hill. The Spy who loved my is probably the best Bond-movie ever. Yes, the fight-scenes are not exactly Bourne- or Wick-quality, MeToo would probably get a fit watching it, Moore "skiing" or "driving" may look dated. But the set-pieces, Jaws, Moore's charm... It may not be the Bond modern audiences want, but it is the Bond we need.
Soren Ras Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 16 minutes ago, Stefan Fredriksson said: I am not ready to die on it, but I am ready to sprain my ankle on this hill. The Spy who loved my is probably the best Bond-movie ever. Yes, the fight-scenes are not exactly Bourne- or Wick-quality, MeToo would probably get a fit watching it, Moore "skiing" or "driving" may look dated. But the set-pieces, Jaws, Moore's charm... It may not be the Bond modern audiences want, but it is the Bond we need. I saw that in the theaters in Copenhagen when it came out. At the end of the intro sequence, when Bond's parachute unfolded into the Union Jack, the whole audience applauded. I was astounded and delighted (I was busy applauding myself) that you would get such a reaction outside Great Britain. But that's how it was. The rest of that movie was simply bloody enjoyable. Never mind the basic silliness, but it was grand fun in the best way. Easily the best of the Moore films and safely in my top 5 of all Bond films (which includes Lazenby's, two of Connery's and one of Craig's).
RETAC21 Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Stefan Fredriksson said: I am not ready to die on it, but I am ready to sprain my ankle on this hill. The Spy who loved my is probably the best Bond-movie ever. Yes, the fight-scenes are not exactly Bourne- or Wick-quality, MeToo would probably get a fit watching it, Moore "skiing" or "driving" may look dated. But the set-pieces, Jaws, Moore's charm... It may not be the Bond modern audiences want, but it is the Bond we need. Gotta be joking, Goldfinger beats them all: James Bond: Who are you? Pussy Galore: My name is Pussy Galore. James Bond: I must be dreaming. James Bond: You'll kill 60,000 people uselessly. Auric Goldfinger: Hah. American motorists kill that many every two years.
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Stefan Fredriksson said: I am not ready to die on it, but I am ready to sprain my ankle on this hill. The Spy who loved my is probably the best Bond-movie ever. Yes, the fight-scenes are not exactly Bourne- or Wick-quality, MeToo would probably get a fit watching it, Moore "skiing" or "driving" may look dated. But the set-pieces, Jaws, Moore's charm... It may not be the Bond modern audiences want, but it is the Bond we need. 47 minutes ago, Soren Ras said: I saw that in the theaters in Copenhagen when it came out. At the end of the intro sequence, when Bond's parachute unfolded into the Union Jack, the whole audience applauded. I was astounded and delighted (I was busy applauding myself) that you would get such a reaction outside Great Britain. But that's how it was. The rest of that movie was simply bloody enjoyable. Never mind the basic silliness, but it was grand fun in the best way. Easily the best of the Moore films and safely in my top 5 of all Bond films (which includes Lazenby's, two of Connery's and one of Craig's). The best? I dont know. One of the best? I think so. I think this one, and For your Eyes Only, get remarkably little admiration, and they have some really great scenes. Particularly like the scene at the pyramids at night. 5 minutes ago, RETAC21 said: Gotta be joking, Goldfinger beats them all: James Bond: Who are you? Pussy Galore: My name is Pussy Galore. James Bond: I must be dreaming. James Bond: You'll kill 60,000 people uselessly. Auric Goldfinger: Hah. American motorists kill that many every two years. I think so. Although it still doesnt have what I think is the best scene in any Bond film. Beat that Jason Bourne.
sunday Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 Octopussy had a George MacDonald Fraser, he of Flashman fame, script.
NickM Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 4 hours ago, Stefan Fredriksson said: I am not ready to die on it, but I am ready to sprain my ankle on this hill. The Spy who loved my is probably the best Bond-movie ever. Yes, the fight-scenes are not exactly Bourne- or Wick-quality, MeToo would probably get a fit watching it, Moore "skiing" or "driving" may look dated. But the set-pieces, Jaws, Moore's charm... It may not be the Bond modern audiences want, but it is the Bond we need. Don't forget Caroline Munro in a bikini as "Naomi"
Yama Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 12 hours ago, Stefan Fredriksson said: I am not ready to die on it, but I am ready to sprain my ankle on this hill. The Spy who loved my is probably the best Bond-movie ever. Yes, the fight-scenes are not exactly Bourne- or Wick-quality, MeToo would probably get a fit watching it, Moore "skiing" or "driving" may look dated. But the set-pieces, Jaws, Moore's charm... It may not be the Bond modern audiences want, but it is the Bond we need. I really like it, other than the main villain, who is perhaps somewhat of a lightweight on Bond rogue's gallery. I have always problems remembering who it even was. I still think Live & Let Die is slightly superior film, but this is Moore's 2nd/3rd best. I feel that of all Moore movies, this was perhaps the most like Connery flicks. Have you noticed that every time a new Bond movie comes out, producers and critics always parrot "In the past, 'Bond girls' were little but eye candy, but this time we have a modern era Bond girl, who is capable and independent and blah blah blah..." and then I'm like "Uhhh....I suppose you don't remember Anya Amasova, then?" They especially hard tried to sell this fiction with last two Craig films, which was infuriating as Madeleine Swann was a passive character who mostly acted as baggage for Bond.
lucklucky Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 The permanently annoyed angst of Madeleine Swann... i guess they were stuck with her for the second movie.
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 7 hours ago, Yama said: I really like it, other than the main villain, who is perhaps somewhat of a lightweight on Bond rogue's gallery. I have always problems remembering who it even was. I still think Live & Let Die is slightly superior film, but this is Moore's 2nd/3rd best. I feel that of all Moore movies, this was perhaps the most like Connery flicks. Have you noticed that every time a new Bond movie comes out, producers and critics always parrot "In the past, 'Bond girls' were little but eye candy, but this time we have a modern era Bond girl, who is capable and independent and blah blah blah..." and then I'm like "Uhhh....I suppose you don't remember Anya Amasova, then?" They especially hard tried to sell this fiction with last two Craig films, which was infuriating as Madeleine Swann was a passive character who mostly acted as baggage for Bond. She was ok, but you can tell that English isnt Barbara Bach's first language, and there is zero chemistry between her and Bond. OK, so there isnt a whole lot between Swann and Bond either, and they were stuck with that character for 2 films as you say. For me, the 2 best remain Honor Blackman and Eva Green. Although honourable mention to Ana de Armas for her brief appearance. I think I could watch a whole film with her in that character. Speaking of Honor Blackman..
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 7 hours ago, lucklucky said: The permanently annoyed angst of Madeleine Swann... i guess they were stuck with her for the second movie. Its not as if she is a bad actress either. Just... really badly written.
Soren Ras Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Léa Seydoux is a fine enough actress, but her character in those Bond movies was a huge meh for my part, with no chemistry that I could discern between her and Craig. No wonder he was pining for Eva Green, who was fantastic Still, I will take Daniela Bianchi And although not a great actress, I have a weakness for Claudine Auger This topic is useless without pictures, people. Really. Come on!
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Yes, Bianchi was really great. Particularly so as English wasnt her first language. Diana Rigg in OHMSS was really good too. I cant say its my favourite Bond film, but she was really damn good in it. Well, she was damn good in everything she did.
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