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Léa Seydoux does a fine "pouty French woman" but - for me at least - she has close to zero charisma. Sort of like Craig, who is rather high on "Intimidate" and low on "charm".

If we are going to pair up Bond with a French woman, we have already had Claudine Auger, Carole Bouquet, Sophie Marceau, and Eva Green.  So we have been pretty spoiled.

 

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13 hours ago, Soren Ras said:

Léa Seydoux does a fine "pouty French woman" but - for me at least - she has close to zero charisma. Sort of like Craig, who is rather high on "Intimidate" and low on "charm".

If we are going to pair up Bond with a French woman, we have already had Claudine Auger, Carole Bouquet, Sophie Marceau, and Eva Green.  So we have been pretty spoiled.

Yeah, much more memorable roles to be sure. I actually think Seydoux is a great actress and I was initially very excited when she was announced for Spectre, but she was written very bland and boring and No Time to Die did little to change things.

It is self-parodying by now how new Bond movies are always promoted how THIS TIME they have a modern, strong female role unlike all the previous Bond movies :rolleyes: whereas in real world, Seydoux's character was passive and flat, compared to say, Isabella Scorupco in GoldenEye which was quarter of a century ago.

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21 hours ago, Leo Niehorster said:

Remake of "The Man Who Never Was" (1956)?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049471/

Probably less a remake than a reworking of the same material. The main source would be the book written by the guy who organised the operation, Ewen Montagu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Never_Was_(book)#:~:text=The Man Who Never Was is a 1953,for a 1956 film by the same title.

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22 hours ago, Soren Ras said:

Léa Seydoux does a fine "pouty French woman" but - for me at least - she has close to zero charisma. Sort of like Craig, who is rather high on "Intimidate" and low on "charm".

If we are going to pair up Bond with a French woman, we have already had Claudine Auger, Carole Bouquet, Sophie Marceau, and Eva Green.  So we have been pretty spoiled.

 

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Eva Green I think was just about perfect in Casino Royale.

I think Sedoux is the main reason why I just couldnt warm to Spectre. Other than Bond, there was nobody in it I really cared about. Also, past Blofelds had  charm, but not that one.

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On 10/15/2021 at 4:42 AM, Soren Ras said:

Léa Seydoux does a fine "pouty French woman" but - for me at least - she has close to zero charisma. Sort of like Craig, who is rather high on "Intimidate" and low on "charm".

I rather like the way Craig does Bond. Subtle and sarcastic.

On 10/15/2021 at 4:42 AM, Soren Ras said:

If we are going to pair up Bond with a French woman, we have already had Claudine Auger, Carole Bouquet, Sophie Marceau, and Eva Green.  So we have been pretty spoiled.

Of the recent Bond girls, for sheer eye candy no one comes close to Sophie. I did like Halle Berry's role.

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In Bond.  Eva for me , but Sophie is still a teenage dream...

Seydoux seems to be limited to existential angst.

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Bond seemed really good up until like 2/3 through, but the last third dragged it down.

This that yama says i think have been recurrent in several Bond movies. I like the start of pretty much all of them, but most of them loose that quality as they go to the end, and the climax seems to be a bigger explosion...

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2 hours ago, TrustMe said:

I thought that the star of the movie was Ana de Arms although she wasn't in it for long.

Keep an eye on her, she's going places.

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23 hours ago, Soren Ras said:

Halle Berry looked fantastic in Die Another Day. But Eva Green would be able to make me do unspeakable things.

 

 

Great actress, to my mind, but to my mind, the worst Bond film ever made. The special weapons were ridiculous (Surfing into North Korea, Combat Jaguars and Aston Martins with invisibility on ice, and the giant space laser was done before in Diamonds are forever), the Theme (its a frigging dance track! Its a Bond film for Gods sake, you dont bloody dance to it!) and the idea of turning your DNA into someone else is interesting but completely nuts. Im not mad about Brosnans films anyway, but that hits it out the park. Yes, it actually displaced licence to kill from worst Bond film, so Im thankful for that.

As for Eva, I think she is amazing in whatever she does. Preferably a big vat of chocolate for starters.

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On 10/16/2021 at 6:27 AM, Ivanhoe said:

I rather like the way Craig does Bond. Subtle and sarcastic.

Of the recent Bond girls, for sheer eye candy no one comes close to Sophie. I did like Halle Berry's role.

Wasn't Seydoux in 'hot water' for being a bit 'nervous' about doing 'Lesbian scenes'  in one of her other movies?

As for Craig's Bond, I liked his penchant for brutal physicality.

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5 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Keep an eye on her, she's going places.

AND she's Cuban too!  Although, her part being written by Phoebe Waller-Bridge did give some other reviewers 'pause for thought', given Bridge's penchant for 'wokeness' and 'man stupid/wymmyn stronk' writing.

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On 10/17/2021 at 10:17 AM, Stuart Galbraith said:

Great actress, to my mind, but to my mind, the worst Bond film ever made. The special weapons were ridiculous (Surfing into North Korea, Combat Jaguars and Aston Martins with invisibility on ice, and the giant space laser was done before in Diamonds are forever), the Theme (its a frigging dance track! Its a Bond film for Gods sake, you dont bloody dance to it!) and the idea of turning your DNA into someone else is interesting but completely nuts. Im not mad about Brosnans films anyway, but that hits it out the park. Yes, it actually displaced licence to kill from worst Bond film, so Im thankful for that.

As for Eva, I think she is amazing in whatever she does. Preferably a big vat of chocolate for starters.

That's the worst James Bond movie and its not even close.  And she was terrible in the movie as well.  A good actress but she was not good in the movie.  

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On 10/15/2021 at 4:42 AM, Soren Ras said:

Léa Seydoux does a fine "pouty French woman" but - for me at least - she has close to zero charisma. Sort of like Craig, who is rather high on "Intimidate" and low on "charm".

If we are going to pair up Bond with a French woman, we have already had Claudine Auger, Carole Bouquet, Sophie Marceau, and Eva Green.  So we have been pretty spoiled.

 

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You left one out:

 

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I like Skyfall. Perhaps a bit uneven in places, but it was a fine wrap up to Judy Denchs tenure as M. And any ending that features Albert Finney with a Shotgun is doing something right.

Even Quantum of Solace had Olga Kurylenko whom I thought was very good in it. That and a clear nod to The Eiger Sanction at the end. 

The only good thing about die another day is it made Casino Royale so good.

 

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I think you are thinking of Spectre, with the 'Bro-feld' storyline. That was ridiculously overcomplicated, and misses how Bond originally met him in You only Live Twice. You would figure Blofeld would probably have recognised his former stepbrother.

Skyfall was fairly clear, bad guy has a fixation on M, and plots to murder her. Ok so there were elaborations, but it was probably as simple as Quantum of Solace.

Yes, its just the Bond franchise, but it would be nice to have a few rules maintained in the franchise.

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The M murder plot was ridiculously overcomplicated. The rest of the film, I have no objections. And I'm even willing to forgive it the overcomplicated plot because everything else was fine. Quantum of Solace, Spectre ... all meh, and a waste of great actor potential, at least as far as Christoph Waltz was concerned.

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Yeah, i also don't think there have been good villains storyline recently.

They are all crude and to make matters worse and more clownish all have some sort of deformity or physical impairment.

Now that physical deformity is a villain identifier maybe in next Bond they can play one as a red herring.

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