shep854 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 shep854:These mats with the rubber rods or spikes can be walked on, so there's no real need for an additional protective cover. Thanks, and to CV9030FIN. Some of the pics looked as though there was a covering over the spikes; just a result of the distance from the camera, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAH Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 What sort of structures were you having to deal with? The Canadians requested tanks specifically because of the difficulty their 25mms had defeating the very thick mud walls of structures in their AO. The ubiquitous mud walls that surrounded compounds that the rebels would shoot from through little holes. 25-mm HE wouldn't break through (it just detonated and left pockmarks, but APDS worked well. Raking the wall with APDS often resulted in enemy KIA (the projectiles broke up and sent out fragments in a shotgun like pattern where it penetrated. I don't know how well the M72A6s worked directly, but I heard from another wee little passenger that it was golden if you could get it in a room (I'm betting it'd do a number on an individual behind the usual mud wall). .50 CAL AP made it through, but it didn't have much of an effect behind the walls compared to the 25-mm APDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 A Danish Army CV9035-DK IFV hit an IED yesterday. The explosion turned the vehicle over. Of the occupants, two were killed, two badly wounded and one lightly wounded. All belonged to the Royal Life Guard. cbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Tucan Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 A Danish Army CV9035-DK IFV hit an IED yesterday. The explosion turned the vehicle over. Of the occupants, two were killed, two badly wounded and one lightly wounded. All belonged to the Royal Life Guard. cbo Sorry to read that. Turned over, huh? Must have been really big charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 Sorry to read that. Turned over, huh? Must have been really big charge?Make that two, RIP.I hope the badly wounded will recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesG123 Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 The Royal Life Guard? The jokes aren't appropriate here but paint themselves. You mean the Royal Light Guards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irregularmedic Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 (edited) The Royal Life Guard? The jokes aren't appropriate here but paint themselves. You mean the Royal Light Guards? Probably a unit that either traces its lineage to or usually functions as the ceremonial guard and protection force for the Royals. Interesting to see that they are deployed. Condolences to families of the fallen and speedy recovery wished to the wounded. Edited August 9, 2010 by irregularmedic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 The Royal Life Guard? The jokes aren't appropriate here but paint themselves. You mean the Royal Light Guards? No - in Danish it is "Den Kongelige Livgarde" and as irregularmedic suggests, it is the regiment tasked with guarding the royal residence in Copenhagen. The regiment was established in 1658. cbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Hoting Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 A Danish Army CV9035-DK IFV hit an IED yesterday. The explosion turned the vehicle over. Of the occupants, two were killed, two badly wounded and one lightly wounded. All belonged to the Royal Life Guard. cbo Rest in peace to the fallen... Not that it would probably help much in case of a large IED overturning the whole vehicle, but does the Danish CV9035DK have a mine-protection kit like AMAP-M (which, according to IBD, also works against an IED)? IIRC the driver of a Leopard 2A5DK was killed a while ago when an IED detonated under the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesG123 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 No - in Danish it is "Den Kongelige Livgarde" and as irregularmedic suggests, it is the regiment tasked with guarding the royal residence in Copenhagen. The regiment was established in 1658. Ok. RIP to the fallen and I hope the injured make a good recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV9030FIN Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 [quote name=Tomas Hoting' date='09 August 2010 - 1452 PM' timestamp='1281354765' post='797926' Not that it would probably help much in case of a large IED overturning the whole vehicle, but does the Danish CV9035DK have a mine-protection kit like AMAP-M (which, according to IBD, also works against an IED)? IIRC the driver of a Leopard 2A5DK was killed a while ago when an IED detonated under the vehicle. According to BAe in here CV9035 MK III's have "Integration of higher level of protection, includingbomblet and mine protection". In here it says that CV9035 has "higher level ofprotection including bomblet and increased mine protection". If you compare the photos of the previous .pdf you'll see that the CV9035 in first page (desert photo) and for example photo of the AMOS platform in page 4 you'll see the the thickness of the MEXAS add-on-armor kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesG123 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 If the bomb was large enough to flip the vehicle, just being rattled around and/or ejected from open hatches will cause casualties even if the armor isn't breeched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Hoting Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) The Italian army's new Freccia VBM 8x8 wheeled IFVs have arrived in AFG as well. Note the ball-shaped Janus commander's stabilized panoramic sight at the rear of the turret on this vehicle, and one of the soldiers carrying the new Beretta ARX-160 rifle: Two more pics: Edited August 12, 2010 by Tomas Hoting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Pellagio Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 So now they can be useless with 25mm weapons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Hoting Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Bad news again from AFG: Yesterday a paratrooper from Fallschirmjägerbataillon 313 from Seedorf was killed by a suicide bomber. He and several others were guarding a bridge deployed by a Biber bridgelayer about 6 kilometers north of Pol-e-Khumri (Baghlan Province). They were approached by a man from a goup of farmers who, while the Paras called for their interpreter, detonated his suicide vest. Apparently the vest had been filled with steel balls, and the explosion was strong enough to allow the steel balls to penetrate windows and side doors of 2 Dingo MRAPs. The ensuing attack and firefight lasted for several hours. Another attack on German troops near Shahabuddin also led to heavy combat with jets flying CAS and Apaches firing Hellfire missiles. A total of 14 soldiers were wounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) "Apparently the vest had been filled with steel balls, and the explosion was strong enough to allow the steel balls to penetrate windows and side doors of 2 Dingo MRAPs."--Tomas HotingThat's scary. Edited October 8, 2010 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Tucan Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) "Apparently the vest had been filled with steel balls, and the explosion was strong enough to allow the steel balls to penetrate windows and side doors of 2 Dingo MRAPs."--Tomas HotingThat's scary. Yep, also found this detail the most important, from security PoV. Either there is something bad with Dingo or it must've been a monster of a charge... RIP to the dead Fallschirmjäger, quick recovery to the injured and good hunting to their colleagues. Edited October 8, 2010 by Tuccy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Yep, also found this detail the most important, from security PoV. Either there is something bad with Dingo or it must've been a monster of a charge... RIP to the dead Fallschirmjäger, quick recovery to the injured and good hunting to their colleagues. "...or it must've been a monster of a charge..."--Tuccy It's gonna get uncomfortable for fat Afgans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 He and several others were guarding a bridge deployed by a Biber bridgelayer about 6 kilometers north of Pol-e-Khumri (Baghlan Province). Per the topic: The report on an action in that area some time ago included the terms "German-American force with Marders forward", "forced crossing" and "outpost has been retaken and is being defended". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stimpy75 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 A Canadian Forces armoured engineer vehicle, The Badger, levels the ground at a forward installation in the Panjwa’i District of Kandahar Province occupied by soldiers from Charles Company, 1st Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment Battle Group. By stimpy75 at 2010-10-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Hoting Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 KMW delivers 20 upgraded LEOPARD 2 to Canada Munich/Bergen, 8th October 2010 - Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) has handed over the first of 20 LEOPARD 2 A4M CAN modernised battle tanks to the Canadian armed forces yesterday, October 7th 2010. The roll-out took place in the presence of the Canadian military representative, Vice Admiral Denis Rouleau, the deputy armed forces inspector, lieutenant-general Bruno Kasdorf, and numerous other representatives of the Canadian and German army on training area at Bergen near Hannover (Germany). The next deployment location for the Canadian LEOPARDS will be Afghanistan. On the occasion of the roll-out, Brigadier-General Steve Bowes, Commander of the Canadian Land Force Atlantic Area said: "The complexity of the contemporary operational environment has done nothing to dimish the importance of armour supporting the combined arms team. Canadians are proud to serve our nation and support our allies abroad with the best main battle tank Leopard 2 for today's complex operational environment." Additional info about the Leopard 2A4M CAN (which appears to be a Leopard 2A4 Evolution) from Defense-Update: http://defense-update.com/wp/20101008_canada-to-deploy-20-recently-upgraded-leopard-2a4m-to-afghanistan.html "(...) The main focus of the A4M CAN design was consistent protection of the crews, who are subjected to enemy attacks with powerful anti-tank projectiles and are in constant danger from mines and IED’s (Improvised Explosive Devices). The starting point for the protection concept is outstanding protection from mines and good all-round (360 degree) protection against RPGs and IEDs. Notable is the additional slat armor protecting the rear area, suspension and engine compartment from RPG attacks. The introduction of all-electric turret drive also reduce vulnerability by removing the inflamable hydrauic fluid. Other elements includes the application of multi-spectral camouflage system that reduces visual signature as well as reducesthermal loads developed inside the vehicle on extended operation in the desert. The capabilities of the new battle tank have been significantly extended by integrating a pioneer equipment interface. Mine rollers, mine ploughs and dozer blades allow the Canadian armed forces to maintain full mobility and operational capability in areas threatened by high level of threat (...)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Hoting Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Yep, also found this detail the most important, from security PoV. Either there is something bad with Dingo or it must've been a monster of a charge... RIP to the dead Fallschirmjäger, quick recovery to the injured and good hunting to their colleagues. According to another German forum, the f*cker had so much explosives on him that the other Paras were even wounded by his bone splinters. The steel balls were taken from ball bearings and had different diameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Hoting Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Usually TankNetters are on new tank pics like a pack of dogs on a three legged cat, so here are two larger ones of the new Leopard 2A4M CAN slated to equip the Canadian forces in AFG: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahawk Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 According to another German forum, the f*cker had so much explosives on him that the other Paras were even wounded by his bone splinters. The steel balls were taken from ball bearings and had different diameters. Which forum if I may ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Hoting Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Which forum if I may ask. whq-forum.de Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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