The AT-3 SAGGER ATGM Soldiers On

[shep854]

Seriously hard to aim these things, and even electical power cables can be a hazard..

 

 

 

The two flashes on the power lines at 1:00 or so...were those the guidance wires shorting out on the power lines?

[Jim Warford]

Serbian Saggar Upgrade...

 

[istvan47]

Still a pretty toy..

Is it the Sagger such a cheaper missile just because it is not tube launched, or easterns like its nice wings?

[EchoFiveMike]

I must have missed that one about the commander, do share... Always up for a good laugh at the end of shift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3HdWRp2Q-g

 

Go to about 3:30 for the good part. It's like these talking monkeys don't know any other words. S/F.....Ken M

[Mr King]

 

I must have missed that one about the commander, do share... Always up for a good laugh at the end of shift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3HdWRp2Q-g

 

Go to about 3:30 for the good part. It's like these talking monkeys don't know any other words. S/F.....Ken M

 

 

If I remember right a poster here claimed that was one of the more elite rebel groups in Syria.

[shep854]

 

I must have missed that one about the commander, do share... Always up for a good laugh at the end of shift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3HdWRp2Q-g

 

Go to about 3:30 for the good part. It's like these talking monkeys don't know any other words. S/F.....Ken M

 

The quality of the rebel leadership was just raised.

[Sikkiyn]

Still gaging on my coffee and LMFAO. That was priceless.

[RETAC21]

 

I must have missed that one about the commander, do share... Always up for a good laugh at the end of shift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3HdWRp2Q-g

 

Go to about 3:30 for the good part. It's like these talking monkeys don't know any other words. S/F.....Ken M

 

 

1) Darwinism in action

2) This is America's fault - the result of developing tactics based on Rambo movies

3) Allah is really great, see how this guy was taken out of the gene pool.

4) All that is missing is the equivalent of: watch this!

[shep854]

 

 

I must have missed that one about the commander, do share... Always up for a good laugh at the end of shift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3HdWRp2Q-g

 

Go to about 3:30 for the good part. It's like these talking monkeys don't know any other words. S/F.....Ken M

 

 

1) Darwinism in action

2) This is America's fault - the result of developing tactics based on Rambo movies

3) Allah is really great, see how this guy was taken out of the gene pool.

4) All that is missing is the equivalent of: watch this!

 

3) Yep. Not that he was almost nailed a moment before, in the exact same spot.

4) Maybe that was what his last radio transmission.

[shep854]

Sagger launch:

[Corinthian]

Another one offing himself out, listed in that commander-Rambo-dies vid

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtzC47iScaA

 

Still lacking the funny uniforms that make the Liberians such guilty pleasures to watch.

[Sikkiyn]

LMFAO.... We should send them aid in the form of Liberian Uniforms.... "Grate Idea".

[Sikkiyn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-vsrMGu3-g

[Mr King]

So the question remains - did that shooting style develop here in the good ol USA by gang bangers and spread to there, or did the style just develop independently in each place? That is the kind of shit wanna be thugs pull here.

[RETAC21]

IMO, it's was Hollywood:

 

 

But real guns are too heavy.

[EchoFiveMike]

Undisciplined chimpery is pretty universal. S/F.....Ken M

[bojan]

Shoting with gun canted sideways was called "Macedonian style" in Serbia and "Albanian style" in Montenegro.

[Jim Warford]

Sagger from Syria...

Edited September 14, 2013 by Jim Warford

[TTK Ciar]

Yes, but why do other countries field more modern ATGMs then if it is so simple? http://208.84.116.223/forums/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/tongue.gif Also, the PLA does have newer types of ATGM in service - for instance the Red Arrow 8 - so why not mount these on the new vehicles?

In the case of the USA, I've seen the case for better/smarter/more-expensive munitions couched in terms of logistic cost for an expeditionary force. It's better to spend more on a smarter missile more likely to hit its target, and transport fewer of them halfway around the globe to the theater.

 

I'm not sure if I believe it, but if we assume the argument is valid, then we could argue that a non-expeditionary force might as well load up on massive numbers of cheaper munitions. Perhaps the plan is to deploy those more expensive missiles for contingencies where nontrivial force projection is required?

[EchoFiveMike]

The USA primarily procures equipment IOT subsidize business; the margins are highest on the most complicated stuff....

 

Which makes it prohibitively expensive to use them to blow the Hell out of filthy savages hiding in caves, even if that's all you need them to do. S/F....Ken M

[Colin]

It has to be the "best" equipment, even if it's not the best choice for the mission.

[shep854]

The USA primarily procures equipment IOT subsidize business; the margins are highest on the most complicated stuff....

 

Which makes it prohibitively expensive to use them to blow the Hell out of filthy savages hiding in caves, even if that's all you need them to do. S/F....Ken M

OTOH, if munitions are approaching the end of their shelf-life, what better way to dispose of them?

[Yalmuk]

New unmanned turret but with old ATGM.

[JW Collins]

How do later man-portable variants of the Sagger (and its Chinese copy) use SACLOS if the guidance unit is detached from the launcher itself?

[bojan]

Launcher and guidance have to be at certain angle so guidance picks missile.