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So pick a new camo, when placing a new clothing order, use that, let people wear both till the old stuff is used up, or use the old camo in Garrison and new in field. Only combat troops get the new cam until all stocks of the old are exhausted. The RSM's won't like it, but they can pay out of their own paycheque to make everyone look tidy. The mish mash will be a good eyesore for a bit to remind people not to be quite so stupid.

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So pick a new camo, when placing a new clothing order, use that, let people wear both till the old stuff is used up, or use the old camo in Garrison and new in field. Only combat troops get the new cam until all stocks of the old are exhausted. The RSM's won't like it, but they can pay out of their own paycheque to make everyone look tidy. The mish mash will be a good eyesore for a bit to remind people not to be quite so stupid.

That's pretty much how it actually works; new uniforms are introduced (and issued to recruits) and a 'wear until' date (usually a year or two off) is set. I was hanging around Military.com when the 'Universally Conspicuous Pattern' was introduced, and the howling started immediately as Soldiers saw the contrast--only to fall on self-satisfied, unsympathetic ears...

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So pick a new camo, when placing a new clothing order, use that, let people wear both till the old stuff is used up, or use the old camo in Garrison and new in field. Only combat troops get the new cam until all stocks of the old are exhausted. The RSM's won't like it, but they can pay out of their own paycheque to make everyone look tidy. The mish mash will be a good eyesore for a bit to remind people not to be quite so stupid.

That's pretty much how it actually works; new uniforms are introduced (and issued to recruits) and a 'wear until' date (usually a year or two off) is set. I was hanging around Military.com when the 'Universally Conspicuous Pattern' was introduced, and the howling started immediately as Soldiers saw the contrast--only to fall on self-satisfied, unsympathetic ears...

 

That's how it works in the US but not necessarily in other countries. I know in the UK the changeover to MTP has been done by units i.e. a whole regt or bn is issued the new pattern at the same time.

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That's pretty much how it actually works; new uniforms are introduced (and issued to recruits) and a 'wear until' date (usually a year or two off) is set. I was hanging around Military.com when the 'Universally Conspicuous Pattern' was introduced, and the howling started immediately as Soldiers saw the contrast--only to fall on self-satisfied, unsympathetic ears...

 

Mark Baker has this covered...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You got yours yet? it is better than ACU as the crotch does not tear on spec.

Won't, since I've not been in uniform for nearly 16yrs as I'd left Singapore to work overseas. Furthermore, I'm an old man now and was officially demobbed at age 40 (7 yrs ago).

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The Singaporean camo isn't half bad in the J from what I've seen...

 

The new SAF camo is primarily green in color and appears to blend very well with tropical undergrowth. Much better than the old woodland pattern.

 

And IMO this SAF pattern is another proof that pixelated pattern is the way to go. What the UCP got wrong is the shade of colors they picked for their pixelated pattern.

 

Having said that, I again wonder if SAF should've taken into consideration when designing the pattern the other terrains we trained in that are low, or not vegetated at all.

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Best part :

 

“We can use historical hand receipts to see who had been issued BDUs. We won’t need to re-issue the new uniforms to anyone who was already issued them. This will save the taxpayers’ billions.”

Brigadier General Paul A. Ostrowski said that this was an innovative way to “solve the camo debacle and hit soldiers with the green weenie,” which he called a win-win.

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So sad is the fact that you really need to ask, because you are no longer sure.....

Rhetorical question. Admittedly, I was going along until I got to the bit X-Files quoted. Then even I started wondering...:P

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Heh. From what little reading I've done from both sites, 'The Duffel Blog's' writers are even sneakier than 'The Onion's'. ;)

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The Marine Corps took a good idea and soiled it with their "patented" copy of the pattern developed by CADPAT. Seriously, globe and anchor camo? The Army then followed that with the rushed through "Universal Camoflage Pattern", and then was forced to come out with a "combat - combat uniform" using the expensive Multicam. Then came the Air Force with their equally bad tiger-stripe UCP. Not to be outdone the Navy had to join the folishness with their utilities, but then acutally made sense with their land pattern.

 

Replacing two patterns with seven new ones was never going to be cost effective. Now the Army is developing three more to replace it's $5Billion failure. SECDEF and the Joint Chiefs should have squashed this before it got started.

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The Marine Corps took a good idea and soiled it with their "patented" copy of the pattern developed by CADPAT. Seriously, globe and anchor camo? The Army then followed that with the rushed through "Universal Camoflage Pattern", and then was forced to come out with a "combat - combat uniform" using the expensive Multicam. Then came the Air Force with their equally bad tiger-stripe UCP. Not to be outdone the Navy had to join the folishness with their utilities, but then acutally made sense with their land pattern.

 

Replacing two patterns with seven new ones was never going to be cost effective. Now the Army is developing three more to replace it's $5Billion failure. SECDEF and the Joint Chiefs should have squashed this before it got started.

 

You miss the best part: Multicam was developed by Crye on a Natick contract for the Force 21 systems. It was literally sitting on the shelf, probably in the same building, when they picked out the gawdawful UCP pattern. And, we paid for it to be developed... <sigh>

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The Marine Corps took a good idea and soiled it with their "patented" copy of the pattern developed by CADPAT. Seriously, globe and anchor camo? The Army then followed that with the rushed through "Universal Camoflage Pattern", and then was forced to come out with a "combat - combat uniform" using the expensive Multicam. Then came the Air Force with their equally bad tiger-stripe UCP. Not to be outdone the Navy had to join the folishness with their utilities, but then acutally made sense with their land pattern.

 

Replacing two patterns with seven new ones was never going to be cost effective. Now the Army is developing three more to replace it's $5Billion failure. SECDEF and the Joint Chiefs should have squashed this before it got started.

 

You miss the best part: Multicam was developed by Crye on a Natick contract for the Force 21 systems. It was literally sitting on the shelf, probably in the same building, when they picked out the gawdawful UCP pattern. And, we paid for it to be developed... <sigh>

 

Yes and no.

 

Crye developed "Scorpion" pattern for the Army program. Multicam was a further commerical development by Crye, based on Scorpion. The Army does not own the licence for Multicam.

 

Scorpion was the "Government" pattern recently dropped from the current round of testing.

 

So yes the Army dropped the ball on Adopting Multicam back in 2000!

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