The T-62

[Roman Alymov]

In addition to factors pointed out above, additional ones might be the same ammo with group SVD and PK\PKP. In general, 5.45 vs. 7.62 discussion is very typical for Rus Army & enthusiasts around.

[Simon Tan]

This is 7.62x39. PKP and SVD use 7.62x54R.

[Roman Alymov]

This is 7.62x39. PKP and SVD use 7.62x54R.

Yes, you are right, they use "old rifle" Mosin ammunition, usutable for AKs.

Edited March 7, 2017 by Roman Alymov

[Daan]

 

Edited March 7, 2017 by Daan

[GARGEAN]

Interesting, what's with ammo? I heard that there was shortage of it in Russia due to production eliminated long time ago. Local stocks? Chinese?

[GARGEAN]

Interesting, what's with ammo? I heard that there was shortage of it in Russia due to production eliminated long time ago. Local stocks? Chinese?

[Dark_Falcon]

Interesting, what's with ammo? I heard that there was shortage of it in Russia due to production eliminated long time ago. Local stocks? Chinese?

 

Possibly there was a a shortage, but as of last month Tula was producing enough 7.62x39mm to have steel-cased HP rounds available for export:

 

 

Note that the 7N23 rounds show are brass-cased but both rounds have red sealant lacquer.

[GARGEAN]

 

 

Interesting, what's with ammo? I heard that there was shortage of it in Russia due to production eliminated long time ago. Local stocks? Chinese?

Possibly there was a a shortage, but as of last month Tula was producing enough 7.62x39mm to have steel-cased HP rounds available for export:

 

 

Note that the 7N23 rounds show are brass-cased but both rounds have red sealant lacquer.

Meant 115mm shells) There's hardly can be shortage of 7,62*39.

[Simon Tan]

No. Copper washed steel case. As far as 115mm, there plenty in Egypt from Factory 81.

Edited March 7, 2017 by Simon Tan

[Daan]

Thanks for the info, Simon. What is the base rifle? AK-103?

[Dark_Falcon]

And let me echo Daan to compliment Simon for the excellent accessory spotting.

[Simon Tan]

AK-103 because it has a AK-74M type receiver with the folding rear trunnion.

[Dark_Falcon]

An SAA soldier in Iranian Basij-type camouflage fatigues (and a non-regulation leather coat) in front of a T-62M:

 

Edited March 8, 2017 by Dark_Falcon

[Simon Tan]

AK pistol!

[Dark_Falcon]

Photo caption: "Beautiful shot of #SAA T-62 in East #Aleppo."

 

[Dark_Falcon]

A companion post to the post I placed on the Syrian tank thread regarding Oryx Blog's post today on Daesh's AFV modification efforts in the Deir ez-Zor area:

 

 

The frame on the T-62 below appears to hold some sort of foam, certainly a curious choice for increasing your armour protection. The tank has been completely repainted, and a black square on the back of the tank was applied. Although unreadable, a similar square was found on a T-55 destroyed near Tadmur, which read: فرقة عثمان بن عفان ديوان الجند-الخنساء - Othman bin Affan Division - The Soldiers' Office- al-Khansaa'. This particular T-62 has been sighted on three different occasions over the past several months, and is likely to continue to see service in Deir ez-Zor.

 

 

 

Is that smoke coming down from the gun barrel in the second photo just the bore evacuator at work or is it a sign of a problem?

[KV7]

It isn't foam, just very thin sheet metal with some material behind it that is forcing it to bulge.

[EvanDP]

It isn't foam, just very thin sheet metal with some material behind it that is forcing it to bulge.

Sandbags?

[KV7]

 

It isn't foam, just very thin sheet metal with some material behind it that is forcing it to bulge.

Sandbags?

 

 

likely.

[lastdingo]

I doubt they're THAT stupid or ignorant.

 

My bet would be on something that protects better (they have enough wrecks to cut RHA plates from) + personal belongings.

[bojan]

 

Is that smoke coming down from the gun barrel in the second photo just the bore evacuator at work or is it a sign of a problem?

Fume extractor seals are worn out and should be replaced for it to work properly.

Edited March 12, 2017 by bojan

[bojan]

I doubt they're THAT stupid or ignorant.

 

Plenty of very iffy "add-on armor" in Syria so far, why do you think this one is an exception?

 

My bet would be on something that protects better (they have enough wrecks to cut RHA plates from) + personal belongings.

 

So, why is your wild ass guess better than everyone else? Especially there is very little evidence to help it?

[Dark_Falcon]

 

 

Is that smoke coming down from the gun barrel in the second photo just the bore evacuator at work or is it a sign of a problem?

Fume extractor seals are worn out and should be replaced for it to work properly.

 

 

Thank you.

[lastdingo]

 

I doubt they're THAT stupid or ignorant.

 

Plenty of very iffy "add-on armor" in Syria so far, why do you think this one is an exception?

 

My bet would be on something that protects better (they have enough wrecks to cut RHA plates from) + personal belongings.

 

So, why is your wild ass guess better than everyone else? Especially there is very little evidence to help it?

 

 

Most of the other armor semi-improvisations were VASTLY smarter than sandbags.

Chains etc. were also used in Eastern European designs.

[GARGEAN]

 

 

I doubt they're THAT stupid or ignorant.

 

Plenty of very iffy "add-on armor" in Syria so far, why do you think this one is an exception?

 

My bet would be on something that protects better (they have enough wrecks to cut RHA plates from) + personal belongings.

 

So, why is your wild ass guess better than everyone else? Especially there is very little evidence to help it?

 

 

Most of the other armor semi-improvisations were VASTLY smarter than sandbags.

Chains etc. were also used in Eastern European designs.

 

And still there was plenty of sandbags. Even over K5 ERA on T-90(!).