Arab American Actresses...

[NickM]

Sarah Shahi, who is a lead character on NBC's "Life", is of Iranian descent.

 

 

Yes...she's half Iranian--AND she doesn't have the classic Iranian 'shnozzel' either....

 

 

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[Bearded-Dragon]

Dhimmitude,= bending over and kiss the @ss of your new masters. I only speak what I see in the news. Get over it BC.

 

There is a considerable difference between servitude and respecting another's beliefs. Here's another word describing your behavior you should consider:

 

prej⋅u⋅dice

noun, verb, -diced, -dic⋅ing.

–noun

1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.

3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.

[Bearded-Dragon]

Er, no. Islamophobia = made up word employed by the politically correct to give pronouncements on their personal preferences a bogus air of authority and/or used as a tool by them and some Moslems to stifle open discussion and debate under the guise of encouraging tolerance. See also homophobia, racism, fascist, Nazi etc etc, which are also routinely deployed in the same manner for the same reasons.

 

BillB

 

Islamophobia, the last acceptable prejudice?

 

Discussion is acceptable. Outright disrespect and prejudice isn't. If we swapped the word "nigger" or "kike" for "Arab" in Murph's statement I think even you'd find it an unacceptable sentiment old one. 'cause its "Arab" or "Muslim" it appears you have no problems with it.

[Bearded-Dragon]

No direct offense intended...but...

 

Being an American, I don't consider it the least bit irrational to fear those rather large groups of people seething with hate and an expressed will to kill me simply for my nationality. The fact that pretty much all of them are Muslim cannot be ignored any more.

 

By all means fear those who people who you feel are a threat to you if you so wish but don't allow your fear to drive your thinking to form prejudices which colour your behavor towards people you've never met and who aren't necessarily members of those large groups. By doing so, you are mirroring the very attitudes which you appear unhappy that others are displaying. People deserve not to be prejudged. You don't like being prejudged because of your nationality. So why should they be prejudged merely because of their ethnicity or culture?

Edited January 14, 2009 by Bearded-Dragon

[T19]

Islamophobia, the last acceptable prejudice?

 

Discussion is acceptable. Outright disrespect and prejudice isn't. If we swapped the word "nigger" or "kike" for "Arab" in Murph's statement I think even you'd find it an unacceptable sentiment old one. 'cause its "Arab" or "Muslim" it appears you have no problems with it.

 

No the last Acceptable prejudice is anti anything any White Male.

 

You can discriminate against them in hiring.,,They can be the bad guy in every domestic abuse video, actually they are the de facto bad guy.

 

When another group takes as much crap as White Males, and who generally ignore the source, come back and make your case.

 

Until them, the rest are just posers

[Old Tanker]

There is a considerable difference between servitude and respecting another's beliefs. Here's another word describing your behavior you should consider:

 

prej⋅u⋅dice

noun, verb, -diced, -dic⋅ing.

–noun

1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.

3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.

 

 

By the definition posted , #1 ,you are quite prejudice againist America.

BTW, as the definition states , #2, any positive or negative preset opinion is a prejudice therefore the word prejudice doesn't only mean a negative.

 

The word bigot is more exact than the word prejudice .

I have many prejudices but don't consider myself a rubber stamp bigot.

[Jussi Saari]

No the last Acceptable prejudice is anti anything any White Male.

 

You can discriminate against them in hiring.,,They can be the bad guy in every domestic abuse video, actually they are the de facto bad guy.

 

Now ask yourself if they can be made more easily bad guys in movies more because everyone thinks they're wife-beaters anyhow so nobody thinks badly of a white male portrayed as such in the movie, or because in a society where whites are the majority and males are mostly doing ok, or its because it's obvious that few reasonable people(*) will think of the movie as a bigoted blanket statement about the whole group of white males.

 

First would be an indication of prejudice against white males, second of the opposite.

 

* yes, I know there are those few and there are also those who can't really be described as "reasonable people". I just very much doubt they make up a particularly big segment of the society.

[BillB]

Islamophobia, the last acceptable prejudice?

 

Discussion is acceptable. Outright disrespect and prejudice isn't. If we swapped the word "nigger" or "kike" for "Arab" in Murph's statement I think even you'd find it an unacceptable sentiment old one. 'cause its "Arab" or "Muslim" it appears you have no problems with it.

Bollocks. You only think discussion is acceptable if it falls within your chosen parameters, anything outside your personal preferences is automatically deemed unacceptable; you're doing right here with these posts. The idea of labelling something a "phobia" has one intent, and it ain't to permit discussion. It is intended to prevent anyone expressing a differing view by making the act appear psychologically deviant in some way. Which is exactly the same idea and logic as the Sovs sending dissenters to be re-eductaed in mental institutions, just delivered in a more subtle manner. And no, I wouldn't personally find nigger or kike unacceptable, at least for the reasons you cite - they are just words and I'd rather folk come right out with what they mean rather than all this mealy-mouthed, touchy feely, social engineering by the back door crap we get rammed down our throats by your ilk these days. Ditto with the disrespect and prejudice - respect is earned on merit not a freebie on demand, and prejudice should be a personal matter for the individiual unless it breaks the law - and I don't mean specially formulated laws to control public attitudes and behaviour, either.

 

BillB

Edited January 14, 2009 by BillB
gibberish & afterthought

[Jeff]

Islamophobia, the last acceptable prejudice?

 

Discussion is acceptable. Outright disrespect and prejudice isn't. If we swapped the word "nigger" or "kike" for "Arab" in Murph's statement I think even you'd find it an unacceptable sentiment old one. 'cause its "Arab" or "Muslim" it appears you have no problems with it.

If we swapped "nigger" and "kike" for the sports scores it would be unacceptable too, so what?

 

The "niggers" beat the "kikes" 23-11 in last Sunday's playoff game.

 

Oh the humanity!

[Mike Steele]

Bollocks. You only think discussion is acceptable if it falls within your chosen parameters, anything outside your personal preferences is automatically deemed unacceptable; you're doing right here with these posts. The idea of labelling something a "phobia" has one intent, and it ain't to permit discussion. It is intended to prevent anyone expressing a differing view by making the act appear psychologically deviant in some way. Which is exactly the same idea and logic as the Sovs sending dissenters to be re-eductaed in mental institutions, just delivered in a more subtle manner. And no, I wouldn't personally find nigger or kike unacceptable, at least for the reasons you cite - they are just words and I'd rather folk come right out with what they mean rather than all this mealy-mouthed, touchy feely, social engineering by the back door crap we get rammed down our throats by your ilk these days. Ditto with the disrespect and prejudice - respect is earned on merit not a freebie on demand, and prejudice should be a personal matter for the individiual unless it breaks the law - and I don't mean specially formulated laws to control public attitudes and behaviour, either.

 

BillB

[Ivanhoe]

Ditto with the disrespect and prejudice - respect is earned on merit not a freebie on demand, ....

 

Courtesy is given, respect is earned.

[BillB]

Courtesy is given, respect is earned.

Well personally I'd go for "Courtesy *may* be given", but that's prolly just me. I think prejudice has to be earned too....

 

BillB

[Guest aevans]

Well personally I'd go for "Courtesy *may* be given", but that's prolly just me.

 

"[P]rolly." In my experience, all military courtesies and most social courtesies are "shall" items, not "may" ones.

[T19]

"[P]rolly." In my experience, all military courtesies and most social courtesies are "shall" items, not "may" ones.

See your mom and my mom liked to read the same books and practice the same social courtesies. It was never optional in her mind, even to the worse person

[T19]

"[P]rolly." In my experience, all military courtesies and most social courtesies are "shall" items, not "may" ones.

See your mom and my mom liked to read the same books and practice the same social courtesies. It was never optional in her mind, even to the worse person

[Guest aevans]

See your mom and my mom liked to read the same books and practice the same social courtesies. It was never optional in her mind, even to the worse person

 

More my grandmother's influence, but yes, "sir and "ma'am" were not optional.

[EchoFiveMike]

I hate everyone, how about that?

 

Persian but..Aylar Lie, made porno here in the US then went back to Euroland where she appeared to do OK in mainstream media. Some crazy Islamic whack her yet? S/F.....Ken M

[BillB]

"[P]rolly." In my experience, all military courtesies and most social courtesies are "shall" items, not "may" ones.

Well of course. You'd take the opposite tack whatever I said. And to try and draw a connection between mil and civilian courtesy is plain daft. Mil courtesies are enforcable by mil regulations & law, civvy ones are purely in the gift of the indiuvidual, depending on their upbringing and manners. And in my experience over here at least, a large proportion if not a majority of the public I run across tend not to be overly bother with such niceties.

 

BillB

[Guest aevans]

Well of course. You'd take the opposite tack whatever I said. And to try and draw a connection between mil and civilian courtesy is plain daft. Mil courtesies are enforcable by mil regulations & law, civvy ones are purely in the gift of the indiuvidual, depending on their upbringing and manners. And in my experience over here at least, a large proportion if not a majority of the public I run across tend not to be overly bother with such niceties.

 

BillB

 

Sighhh...

 

Bill, to borrow an apt metaphor, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[Gabe]

Shannon Elizabeth is half Syrian.

[Wobbly Head]

If you take a trip to Canada there's Sitara Hewitt

 

http://images.google.com/images?q=Sitara+H...=1&ct=title

 

who stars in Little Mosque on the Prarie. That is actualy is a real show on CBC which is even popular by Canadian TV standards.

 

BillB if you do wan't to tell someone what you think of them in the Millitary just do the old reliable. Ask "Sir can I be charged for what I think" when they reply "No" say "Well I Think you are a F@#$ing A@#hole".

[BillB]

Sighhh...

 

Bill, to borrow an apt metaphor, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Of course it is Tony, just as a self-satisfied contrarian is invariably contrary and unwilling to acknowledge he/she/it are talking out of their third point of contact. So take your sighhh, borrowed metaphor and cigar and insert them where the noise you are making is emanating from, and then trot off and pester someone who might actually be interested in what you have to say.

 

BillB

[NickM]

Shannon Elizabeth is half Syrian.

 

 

NO Half-sies!!! Besides, after 9/11 she made a stupid public service announcement on MTV telling us NOT to beat up Muslims & Arabs....

 

 

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Edited January 15, 2009 by NickM

[NickM]

I hate everyone, how about that?

 

Persian but..Aylar Lie, made porno here in the US then went back to Euroland where she appeared to do OK in mainstream media. Some crazy Islamic whack her yet? S/F.....Ken M

 

 

Verrah Nice!...she doesn't even have the 'classic' Persian shnozz; and she's pretty hot looking too! I have always thought that Persians were confident enough in their culture to be much more susceptible to that "Western Decadence";

 

I am reminded of that bumper sticker from the early 1980s: "Nuke the Gay Iranian Whales from El Salvador";

 

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Edited January 15, 2009 by NickM

[Ivanhoe]

Persian but..Aylar Lie, made porno here in the US then went back to Euroland where she appeared to do OK in mainstream media. Some crazy Islamic whack her yet? S/F.....Ken M