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Why would the IAF be using drop tanks?

So they can stay in the sky longer.

 

Besides, it would be an awfully small drop tank. Looks more like a sensor pod.

Yea true, could be that too - either case its not a bomb.

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4) Palestinians also claim IDF movement in the south near the Dahanya airport (you can find it on the map opposite Kerem Shalom) and some fire contacts there.

 

5) There are unconfirmed reports in the arab media of a seaborne assault in the southern tip of Gaza, near Rafah and the egyptian border.

Could be bullshit, but maybe our wannabe-marines Givati finally got their chance : )

 

I thought from the start that cutting off Hamas from the Egyptian border, either from the land or/and sea side, would have to be one of the first steps for a successful cleanup operation.

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Why would the IAF be using drop tanks? Besides, it would be an awfully small drop tank. Looks more like a sensor pod.

 

Or helicopter drop tanks? I can imagine that for say AH-64's over Gaza loiter time is more important than full ammo load.

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I thought from the start that cutting off Hamas from the Egyptian border, either from the land or/and sea side, would have to be one of the first steps for a successful cleanup operation.

The irony being that Egypt doesn't allow for legal crossing of its border with Gaza. The humanitarian truck columns, they don't cross the Egypt-Gaza border, they cross the Israel-Gaza border. Why, when there is talk about the Israeli blockade of Gaza there is no mention of the Egyptian blockade of Gaza is beyond me. Not even Israeli talking heads speak of it.

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The irony being that Egypt doesn't allow for legal crossing of its border with Gaza. The humanitarian truck columns, they don't cross the Egypt-Gaza border, they cross the Israel-Gaza border. Why, when there is talk about the Israeli blockade of Gaza there is no mention of the Egyptian blockade of Gaza is beyond me. Not even Israeli talking heads speak of it.

 

Because they are grateful for any help they can get even low key and don't want to jinx it.

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The irony being that Egypt doesn't allow for legal crossing of its border with Gaza. The humanitarian truck columns, they don't cross the Egypt-Gaza border, they cross the Israel-Gaza border.

 

I know, but the foreign-supplied arms surely don't come in via Israel. Vice versa, I wouldn't expect any possible escape routes for key Hamas personnel to run there.

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Good Hunting

 

May the IDF take this opportunity to maximize the number of opportunities for Hamas martyrdom

 

 

Crazy, democracies should support this action because it is a democracy fighting Evil, that wants to distort democracy and wants to kill based on race, religion or ethnicity alone. Had Hamas played nice, and stopped being idiots, they would have had peace.

 

If you missed that as a freshman, happy to remind you

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:huh:

I don't think they would enjoy the radioactive fallout settling on the rest of Israel.

Out of curiosity and in the interest of Threadjacker 2000, how much fallout would there be with an airburst?

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Out of curiosity and in the interest of Threadjacker 2000, how much fallout would there be with an airburst?

 

 

Have fun : )

 

http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/gmap/hydesim.html

 

http://www.carloslabs.com/projects/200712B/GroundZero.html

 

You'll see, a little boy or a fat man don't even cover the entire Gaza strip. Although of course radioactive fallout effects are unpredictable... and or course it doesn't calculate WWIII probability after something like that : )

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You'll see, a little boy or a fat man don't even cover the entire Gaza strip. Although of course radioactive fallout effects are unpredictable... and or course it doesn't calculate WWIII probability after something like that : )
Another good reason to invoke the names of Arthur Harris and Curtis LeMay...sans August 6th and 9th 1945.
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Israel's tagline is "the only democracy in the Middle East". We can argue if Lebanon and Iraq are also democracies, but the term "democracy" is a label for a lot things other than just elections in the narrow sense, and in that broader sense Israel's tagline is correct. Contrary to your assertion, the democratic nature of Israel is essential to its positioning in the American political environment. Consider the counterfactual that Israel is not a democracy. It is also not an oil supplier, so it would be just another mess of a country in a region that is mostly a pain. It would not be a particularly popular cause. Consider why the Palestinian cause is so unpopular in the United States. The Palestinians are regarded as losers, fanatics, terrorists, thugs, etc. which as a generalization is fairly valid. Who wants to identify with that? Go to the website of a pro-Israel organization (AIPAC, TIP, JINSA, etc.) and see how prominently they harp on the democracy thing. There is a reason for this.

 

As for the Egyptians and the Saudis, the consensus amongst people who seem to know about these things is that the alternative to the Mubarak and Saudi regimes is not some tolerant and decent order but Salafist fanatics. So to wish the present regimes success in their crackdown is not supporting democracy, it is supporting bad against worse which in this imperfect world is often the choice that we face. And while the victory of the Mubarak or Saudi regimes would not be a victory for democracy, their defeat by Salafist fanatics would be a setback for the United States, Israel and the other democracies.

 

Not trying to change the topic, but how does democracy go with this? Honestly, I don't think anybody really cares if Israel is democracy or not. They happen to be America's ally in the Middle East, have strong lobbyist support from the US, etc. etc. The US supports dictators like Egypt's Mubarak and the Saudi monarchy. So next time if the Egyptians were going to conduct their own security operation with full US support, would you also claim be saying that anyone who supports democracy should wish an American supported dictator success in whatever they do?
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I do remember that a country with a democratically elected government (democratic in attaining power, not in maintaining it) once invaded and almost conquered your country, which at the time had a government that was anything but.

 

Anyone who supports democracy should wish the Hamas success :P
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