Warhammer 40,000

[Manic Moran]

Though really, the thing to remember about Warhammer 40,000 (and Games Workshop in general - aside from the occasional great game like Blood Bowl) is that what you actually need to do is gently detach your kid from it and get him involved with something else... because 40K really has no redeeming features

 

My first thought is "Get them hooked on gaming with 40K", move to "Flames of War" (Which is basically 40K rules with WWII equipment) and from there to more historical games.

 

NTM

[Bearded-Dragon]

I believe I've found the solution to my problem with my son's increasing addiction to Warhammer. It solves the problem of being wedded to GW as a sole supplier, promotes individuality and inventiveness and creativity and moves him away from Warhammer towards more useful "periods" as such. It is here.

[Lampshade111]

Does anybody sell a good M60A2 Patton model? At the right size with a few modifications that would look nice.

[Matt L.]

Games Workshop Business Plan: Move the Pewter

 

It seems like every new edition that comes out the minis are bigger, heavier, and cost more.

 

The 40K game itself is pretty bad actually. The rules are poorly tested for balance and the games are mostly just dice rolling exercises - no strategy, no manuever other than "hey diddle-diddile". You end up with a big tome of rules that just offer complexity and no depth. I found the actual games to be frustrating and tedious at the same time. The gameplay resembles Napoleonics - without the subtleties - more than anything modern.

 

It succeeds a lot more as a modelmaking hobby. The world design is fantastically silly and very appealing to a young teen who doesn't get the camp. The models are ridiculous, but fit the overall theme and there is a lot of latitude for expressing yourself artisitcally. Part of what can make the game play bearable is the spectacle of two well painted armies duking it out. The few tournaments I attended emphasized presentation as much as actually winning the game.

 

I wouldn't even consider it SciFi. It's techno-fantasy.

 

Matt

[Sailor Lars]

@Bearded Wyrn und Matt L ;

 

Big tomes of complexity and more money for GW. If you want to compete, that is.. Local Major Demon of Capitalism moved to US, formerly running a local little finnish shop ( independant ) games/figures/etc shop, now employed by Games Workshop - It's nothing new, of course, for those that are used to GW policies in the first place, but now - Be even more careful about your money

 

That guy was an absolute devil behind the shop's counter. Doesn't hurt either if the vast majority of the customers were kids of 10+ ages, as well - practically nobody left the shop without buying something. Well, many have stated it here before and many will, in the future, but if you're into actually playing a game, go for something like Necromunda, Blood Bowl or perhaps.. what was that nice little GW game that got shut down because it didn't require the gamers to put obscene amounts of money to buy new codexes..

 

Well, those games are still worth a try - And when it comes to modelling.. I grant you that - There's lots of people doing incredible modelling job when it comes to GW figures and such, however, are those homegrown semi-scratch build ( part Lego ) models actually legit for competitions/tournees? Are there any people in This Grate Sight that go to bigger Warhammer tournees?

 

A friend of mine always gets fired up ( in not a positive way ) when it comes to the GW policies.. but damn the man likes to get down and tinker with the miniatures - and spend obscene money while on that.

 

That's something to take in account about Your child's GW hobby, albeit, as it comes to many small kids, it's more usually about just painting the models and playing with Dolls for Boys principle - which is not too harmful for Your wallet.

 

take this with a grain of salt, as my posts usually, but more just some things i've noticed when been speaking with some people who have wasted too many years and money down that road

[Guest bojan]

...however, are those homegrown semi-scratch build ( part Lego ) models actually legit for competitions/tournees?

 

Yes, as long you don't use parts of rival companies - so using parts of WW2 tank kits is OK, using models from eg. Rakham/Reaper is not.

 

Are there any people in This Grate Sight that go to bigger Warhammer tournees?

I went to Polish 40K (~140 people) tournament 3 years ago. Alcohol intake between day 1 and day 2 limited my ranking (23rd after 1st day, 63rd after 2nd)...

 

That's something to take in account about Your child's GW hobby, albeit, as it comes to many small kids, it's more usually about just painting the models and playing with Dolls for Boys principle - which is not too harmful for Your wallet.

 

Interesting note is that due the monetary requirement local 40K scene average age is 27. Fantasy scene average age is less - 23.

Edited April 20, 2008 by bojan