Archie Pellagio Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Have there been any research on the possibilities of Subs providing naval fire support? But why would you want to?If an asset is in position to be providing NGFS, the enemy are going to know there are lots of ships there, so surfacing a submarine is going to be a complete waste of resources, and by it's very nature it will be pretty shit at the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rathi Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Has anyone looked at MLRS systems for naval fire support? The m-31 guided rockets with a 60 km range seem pretty nice for over-the-horizon work. Integrating missile pods, especially if you only use guided munitions, is probably easier than installing gun turrets. Edited August 13, 2011 by rathi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olof Larsson Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Has anyone looked at MLRS systems for naval fire support? The m-31 guided rockets with a 60 km range seem pretty nice for over-the-horizon work. Integrating missile pods, especially if you only use guided munitions, is probably easier than installing gun turrets. The Lockheed Martin Polar (Extended range VLS-launched GMLRS) was proposed for just that, offering a 100nm range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 After 26 years loyal service, the USS Arthur W. Radford has finally succumbed to Davy Jones' Locker - after being deliberately sunk to create an artificial reef. The fate of any USN ship that is not a Burke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Williams Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Image is from wiki.Ship is Romanian river monitor "Ion.C.Bratianu", one of 3 ships from "Michail Kogalniveanu" class. Those are quite recent as ships were commissioned in 1993-98.Armament is 2 x 100mm D-10T2S in purpose built turrets, 2 x twin 30mm AA and 2 x quad 14.5mm AAMGs.Armor is large cal MG proof.Thanks Bojan - sounds as if it could be quite useful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Thanks Bojan - sounds as if it could be quite useful... On the Thames, of late. It occurs to me that smaller monitors, with modern protection techniques (anti-RPG grilles etc), ought to make a comeback. On the naval use of MLRS, I sort of vaguely recall reading about a concept using some boring freighter-type hull and a hold stuffed full of rockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Have there been any research on the possibilities of Subs providing naval fire support?Polaris, Poseidon, and now Trident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 On the Thames, of late. It occurs to me that smaller monitors, with modern protection techniques (anti-RPG grilles etc), ought to make a comeback. On the naval use of MLRS, I sort of vaguely recall reading about a concept using some boring freighter-type hull and a hold stuffed full of rockets.Everything old is new again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 On the naval use of MLRS, I sort of vaguely recall reading about a concept using some boring freighter-type hull and a hold stuffed full of rockets.Arsenal ship? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki?search=Arsenal+ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Pellagio Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Have there been any research on the possibilities of Subs providing naval fire support?----------------Polaris, Poseidon, and now Trident Minimises the risk of counter battery fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Thanks Bojan - sounds as if it could be quite useful..."Lascar Catargiu" pf the same class has 122mm MRL in addition to other armament. There is also "Rahova" class from '80s that has less armament - 1 x 100mm, 1 x 57mm and 122mm MRL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Estes Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 But why would you want to?If an asset is in position to be providing NGFS, the enemy are going to know there are lots of ships there, so surfacing a submarine is going to be a complete waste of resources, and by it's very nature it will be pretty shit at the task.HMS M-1 and its as-designed sisters could fire the 12-inch gun submerged, but had to surface to reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Kibbey Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 On the Thames, of late. It occurs to me that smaller monitors, with modern protection techniques (anti-RPG grilles etc), ought to make a comeback. On the naval use of MLRS, I sort of vaguely recall reading about a concept using some boring freighter-type hull and a hold stuffed full of rockets. In VN there were some barges with anything from 120mm mortars to 105mm howitzers that would be maneuvered/supported by LCM's plus monitor boats as in the pic Jeff posted. Basically a mobile firebase on the rivers that could be relocated to deliver, or evade, fire. There might be five or six boats acting as a sort of flotilla to support the arty-carrying barge. A good friend of mine, now deceased, served on the "Mike" boats that moved these guys around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now