ShotMagnet Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Impaled by an RPG Probably NWS, for the gore. Shot
Sami Jumppanen Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 If i understood correctly, that RPG didn't function because it hit to hummers front window in bad angle and broke? So, if it had been launched maybe a fraction of a second later it would have hit perfectly to that hummer, about to the same height as their heads were.
Jussi Saari Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 If i understood correctly, that RPG didn't function because it hit to hummers front window in bad angle and broke? So, if it had been launched maybe a fraction of a second later it would have hit perfectly to that hummer, about to the same height as their heads were. Seems so, if there was no warhead it means it had to have broken off from the rocket... being impaled by 4cm rocket is bad enough, I guess with the 7-8 cm diametre warhead with it it wouldn't be survivable anymore even if it was a dud no matter how lucky you are...
Guest JamesG123 Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Depends. Assuming of course that the warhead is a dud no matter what. IF it had hit him with the warhead attached, it would have had a much larger frontal area and would have lost alot more KE penetrating the windscreen (if it penetrated completely at all) and then would have been much more blunt than just the rocket motor section. But then of course, they probably wouldn't have put him on the medivac bird at all and he would have bleed out or died of shock while waiting on EOD to arrive. I feel worse for the TC who got hit in the face with bits of fins...
shep854 Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Reminds me of the Korean War incident where a soldier took a 60mm mortar round in the chest. The surgeons sorked from behind sandbags-for all the good it would have done them. The shell was successfully removed, BTW.
Guest JamesG123 Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Has anyone ever heard of a dud, stuck in someone or not, go off late or when someone tinkers with it? I can't recall ever hearing about one. I still wouldn't want to sit next to or handle one, but usually if a fuze fails, doesn't it fail completely and the round is (relatively) safe?
ShotMagnet Posted October 2, 2007 Author Posted October 2, 2007 ...if a fuze fails, doesn't it fail completely and the round is (relatively) safe?A dud isn't always the result of a bad fuze. If the explosive is overage, for example, the condition(s) a fuze might work perfectly and still not set off the charge because the explosive has passed its freshness date. The fuze might fire, but the explosive won't follow suit. The explosive, on the other hand, might still go off as a result of shock or temperature, with a lot less predictability than would have been had if the fuze had done the exploding. Bomb-bunnies I talked to said that overage ammo could be a lot more dangerous than other stuff, because it was a lot more unpredictable. If i understood correctly, that RPG didn't function because it hit to hummers front window in bad angle and broke?My understanding, gleaned from the recreation included in the video, was that the RPG hit the window, which induced yaw, which snapped the warhead from the rest of the missile. Weakness in the design or just a bad (or good) break, dunno. Still, the video said some pretty foreboding things about the detonation initiator which was embedded in the man and which would doubtless have made a mess had it gone off. Shot
Sardaukar Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 There was that soldier who was pierced by RPG round that failed to detonate in Somalia. "Blackhawk down"-book gives a good account of that. He died immediately, tho..but they had trouble removing the warhead from body safely.
gewing Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 There was that soldier who was pierced by RPG round that failed to detonate in Somalia. "Blackhawk down"-book gives a good account of that. He died immediately, tho..but they had trouble removing the warhead from body safely. IIRC a ranger was hit in the chest by a dud RPG round during the Granada ops. It failed to penetrate his Body armor, but knocked him through a wall...
Paul in Qatar Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Now I have no objection at all to this guy suddenly getting very religious indeed! A great story and very well told.
Paul in Qatar Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 A sudden thought. Who the heck took the video? Who the heck when faces with this situation runs and gets his camera?
RIPper Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 this is the youtube era, why are you surprised with the camera?
Paul in Qatar Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Surprised is not quite the right word. Still, every time I see something like this I note it. Ever since we got that footage of the SST going down near Paris. There are cameras everywhere.
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